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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 14:11:12 GMT
Well that's gone up in smoke 1-0 down inside seven minutes it will have to be 3-1 then 🤷♂️
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 27, 2018 14:13:15 GMT
Go now go Walk out the door Don’t turn around now You’re not welcome anymore 😞😞😞😞😞😞😞😞
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 14:28:02 GMT
Lofty was 10 the last time Hull beat Bolton at home is that another record that is to be pissed into the wind under Parky hope not 👎
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 14:51:01 GMT
Still no goal in the first half at home since march 1-0 down Donaldson had a chance but wasted it. 45 minutes to go COYWM
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Post by wots on Oct 27, 2018 15:24:28 GMT
Judging by the stats, looks like that they've been told to shoot on sight.
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Post by wots on Oct 27, 2018 15:46:13 GMT
Three strikers, plus Ozzie on the pitch for the last minutes of the game. Desperate times equals desperate measures. tbh, I don't even think a point would save Parky today. To think that Oom said, what was it... minimum five points from three games.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 16:07:57 GMT
It has to be the end now 1935 was the last time they won in Bolton. It might have been a better performance but our strikers can't score in a brothel 1 win in eleven now please it's got to be the end now COYWM
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Post by Alptrotter on Oct 27, 2018 16:11:44 GMT
By no means Bolton’s worst performance of the season; Williams tried hard all game, always showing for the ball, Doidge similarly worked his socks off, but too many players looked appallingly low on confidence. Oztumer misplaced more passes than reached their target, Donaldson looked lightweight, Dyer looked his age and Olkowski looked like he wished his tummy ache had remained. He looks a shadow of the player we thought was a real find in August. Similarly Vela looks poor and Hobbs, Wilson and Beevers couldn’t muster one decent pass between them.
So, while today I thought Parky had the team structure right and with a couple of exceptions, the personnel right, he’s obviously incapable of raising the performance of his players. What’s happened to that earlier resilience and self belief? Most of the players now look like they’d rather be almost anywhere else than on the pitch. That has to be the defining point. I’m not one of those who will cheer if he is dismissed. He’s worked so hard for the club, always with dignity and commitment, that I am genuinely sorry to say that I think KA should let him go. Sadly, with Parky, I can only see another dour relegation battle ahead.
Just a final couple of random thoughts. Was the atmosphere as dead as it seemed, watching on tv? If so, Parky’s done to the crowd what he’s done to his team. Also, can there be a worse team than us at short throw ins? We might as well just give the opposition the ball back, we lose it almost every time.
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Post by andyl on Oct 27, 2018 16:32:53 GMT
The whole team is horribly low on confidence. And this was transmitted to the crowd. A goal down again and it was all uphill.
I don't know how to rate Oztumer today. He made loads of mistakes but looked our best player as well. Battled hard , knitted together such moves as we had, made himself a great opportunity, then missed it and earlier set Donaldson up.
Goal was feeble. Lots of players had chances to prevent. We just lacked concentration.
Defensive distribution was dire.
Donaldson gave 100% as did Doidge but nothing came from tbe flanks.
Alnwick 2 Hobbs 5 Wilson4 Beevers 4 Williams 6 Oztumer 6 Vela 2 Donaldson 6 Doidge 5 Dyer 3 Olkowski 5
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Post by bonaparte on Oct 27, 2018 16:50:38 GMT
Nice to hear from you again Andy. I agree totally with your assessment, except I would give Vela a 5. Perhaps if PP continues with Oztumer (a serious doubt)and Ameobi gets fit we might see some football for a change. This hoofball drives me crazy, and but that Hull is a poor side we would have been over run by continually giving away possession. But PP by his own light has done a first class job, wish I could agree, mediocrity is all I see.
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 27, 2018 16:53:26 GMT
By no means Bolton’s worst performance of the season; Williams tried hard all game, always showing for the ball, Doidge similarly worked his socks off, but too many players looked appallingly low on confidence. Oztumer misplaced more passes than reached their target, Donaldson looked lightweight, Dyer looked his age and Olkowski looked like he wished his tummy ache had remained. He looks a shadow of the player we thought was a real find in August. Similarly Vela looks poor and Hobbs, Wilson and Beevers couldn’t muster one decent pass between them. So, while today I thought Parky had the team structure right and with a couple of exceptions, the personnel right, he’s obviously incapable of raising the performance of his players. What’s happened to that earlier resilience and self belief? Most of the players now look like they’d rather be almost anywhere else than on the pitch. That has to be the defining point. I’m not one of those who will cheer if he is dismissed. He’s worked so hard for the club, always with dignity and commitment, that I am genuinely sorry to say that I think KA should let him go. Sadly, with Parky, I can only see another dour relegation battle ahead. Just a final couple of random thoughts. Was the atmosphere as dead as it seemed, watching on tv? If so, Parky’s done to the crowd what he’s done to his team. Also, can there be a worse team than us at short throw ins? We might as well just give the opposition the ball back, we lose it almost every time. I think the atmosphere is as you say Alp down to the sheer boredom and negativity of two plus years of Parky. Because the players are so far apart and the ball is constantly hoofed from midfield there is no momentum built up so no excitement. It's the sheer frustration that kills you and is why I stopped going and won't return under Parkinson. I do though wholeheartedly agree with you about him as a man. The abuse he gets from some fans is totally unfair, understandable but unfair. He does work hard is conscientious and dignified. I don't criticise anyone for working hard and trying their best. He's done that but it's obvious his best just isn't good enough at this level. It's ok moaning about other clubs having more money but a good manager gets 20% more from a player whilst Parky seems to get 20% less even from his good players and as far as a team is concerned, there isn't one. 4-5 changes every week just prove that even after all this time he still has no idea of his best team. Sadly it's time to part and despite our recent results I'm sure he will walk back into another job, maybe even back at Bradford. Divisions one and two are his level and to be fair if I was a chairman in that area, I'd be chasing him to get us promoted. We may be down at the moment but we are still a proud and big enough club to be looking up not down and need a manager with the determination and ability to take us there. Personally I'd bring in Brownie. He'd live the job and would utilise the likes of David Lee, Jimmy Philips and Julian Darby well. He might even bring Nobby back as assistant if he's not got fixed up yet? Obviously there has to be a vacancy and hopefully there will be tomorrow!!
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Post by davidm on Oct 27, 2018 18:27:36 GMT
Well the manager actually picked a decent looking team but, unfortunately, we are on a downward slide which will only have one ending.
I am not as angry as after the Forest game as today we did attack. But we lost and lost to a dreadful Hull team who will struggle badly this season.
Despite trying to win this match as opposed to trying not to lose, I think it is time for a change as surely we will be relegated if this continues.
Whoever comes in has a semblance of an attacking team with these players.
We did start OK but, as usual, succumbed early. Hull had done nothing until a bog standard attack down the right. I wasn’t concerned at all as we had everything under control and suddenly the ball was bobbling along the 6-yard line. How did it get there? Did Beevers or Hobbs let it through – I don’t know – will need to watch it again. Even then there were chances to clear. Wilson was too far away from Campbell – he should have blocked the shot and Alnwick could surely have charged from his goal to block the shot. But no it just finished up in the net. Yet another pathetic defensive attempt.
History this season tells us that we had lost from that point on as it is rare for us to come back.
We did attack. Oztumer had the side going forward but his shooting was wayward and Donaldson missed a glorious chance before half time.
The second half continued with us attacking but not creating much until Vela and Olkowski both shot so weakly that the attempts looked like back passes.
Oztumer created and missed a really good chance when it seemed that he must score.
The goalie saved our one and only proper attempt at goal and Hull missed a sitter when Wilson was skinned down the wing.
The match to me finished too predictably. Once we concede we are doomed.
It was a much better performance than our usual negative stuff but the manager (and pundits – Alan Gowling I usually like but he spoke rubbish after the match) goes on about getting a break, having some luck etc but reality says that we lost our 5th game out of 8 at home and are plummeting towards league 1.
Alnwick - 3 Rooted to his line for the goal (not solely him at fault though). Distribution awful.
Olkowski - 3 Not a wing back. Got forward well but couldn’t produce a final ball.
Wilson - 2 Should have been much closer to the goalscorer and prevented a shot. Poor distribution. Caught out for pace too often.
Hobbs - 4 Couldn’t determine his (or Beevers) involvement in the goal but not dominant enough.
Beevers - 4 Same comment as Hobbs on the goal. Some awful headers.
Dyer - 2 Just nothing.
Williams - 5 Did a lot of good stuff. Some ambitious passes just failed to hit the target but also some really negative passes too.
Vela - 3 I can’t recall much of him other than an awful powder puff shot.
Oztumer - 6 Best player by a mile but his shooting was dreadful. Always involved.
Doidge - 5 Worked really hard. Set Donaldson up for good chances.
Donaldson - 4 Missed a glorious chance in first half.
Buckley - 2 Did he come on?
Manager - 4 Much better shape to the team but hardly any thing for the opposition goalie to do.
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Post by davidm on Oct 27, 2018 18:30:47 GMT
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Post by davidm on Oct 27, 2018 18:32:09 GMT
Was the atmosphere as dead as it seemed, watching on tv? It's exactly as you say, Paul. The manager and the dreadful negative approach to playing football has knocked the stuffing out of the supporters. There is just no atmosphere at all these days - just a dreadful acceptance of defeat. Ken Anderson's farcial acts over money, non-payments, threats of admin etc etc are also killing the enthusiasm.
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Post by cadders on Oct 27, 2018 18:36:15 GMT
My only comment from this afternoon is, why is our shooting so bad, it's either miles high & wide or a powder puff back pass?
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