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Post by davidm on Oct 26, 2018 12:42:39 GMT
What a significant match this could be.
Not a “must win” game in terms of our overall season but a draw or defeat will surely unleash the simmering discontent felt towards the management team and the owner.
I’m not sure, after Ken Anderson’s uttering this week, that the manager could survive a defeat.
How will the manager approach the game?
Will it be the same dour negative do-not-lose approach or will there be a more adventurous go-for-a-win approach?
He surely cannot be particularly worried about the quality or the spend of the opponents as he was against Forest.
Will there be 4 or 5 changes again? – who knows. Lowe is suspended so there is a need for a change there and let’s hope that Oztumer and Doidge start the match.
Please not the ineffective 2 wingers and the lone striker that we have seen fail so often this season. Can we have 2 strikers please and note Oztumer is NOT a striker.
I just don’t know how this match will go. I am so despondent about our club at the moment.
Surely though we can manage a win.
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Post by wots on Oct 26, 2018 14:34:42 GMT
I'm sure there'll be a few that hope we lose this game by a large margin and low possession stats. Then it's up to KA to decide if he gives Parky the push.
What has Parky got to lose? If the result goes against him, he may be gone. So, he may as well go for all out attacking football, if he knows how. If he gets a good result, it's sure to disappoint a few.
It's a shame that the good start to the season has come unstuck and I'm sure that KA is more worried about his Golden Payday than the style of play. No doubt Parky's stay will be extended if he gets a good result, as it saves KA a few quid.
IMO, a few of the teams below us play much better football and it's probably just time before they get things flowing in the right direction. I watched PNE vs Brentford for example. Wide open, exciting game. Not a defenders dream by any stretch, but PNE matched a very good Brentford side stride for stride. This type of game would also bring the crowds back, I think.
The result, well, I see a low score draw, or a goal to nil for either side. Enough to bore the pants off any true fan.
The new manager? We need a character. A Brian Clough type; BSA, or even a Mick McCarthy. Not saying he's the right man for us, but you know what I mean. A club with a good stadium, no money and team shot of confidence. Who will we attract?
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Post by greydad on Oct 26, 2018 15:46:57 GMT
I see from the manager's piece in the Bolton News that he was very disappointed with Wildschut for persistently giving the ball away...I wouldn't argue with that criticism but there were, and have been all too often this season,a number of players who have done exactly the same, and with similar consistency, in all areas of the pitch. If profligacy in possession is the criteria for being benched perhaps the Under 21's should be drafted in en masse....as regards the persistent selection of 2 wingers, I recall Buckley's fine cross which Noone dispatched v Derby, but am struggling to remember many other positive or effective contributions from out wide. Marc Isles remarks on the the Brum and Derby victories as having been achieved with the manager's preferred set-up, but the former was for me a fortunate win... the latter was a rare example of the system proving effective, the team working hard and with purpose without the ball in protecting their slender lead and earning a very hard earned win. I am totally with David M as regards wingers, but it would be a surprise to see the manager deviating from his preferred system even though there is scant evidence of it's effectiveness thus far. Olkowsky, Wheater and Hobbs seem our best in those positions, but left back remains a genuine issue at present,..if Dyer is match fit he might be worth another try, and I would be tempted to go with Vela, Williams, Oztumer and AN Other in a midfield 4..not sure who else is fit, and I'm sure no one from the Devpt. Squad will be considered. Doidge and probably Donaldson would be my choice as a front 2 to start, with less reliance on the ball bypassing midfield and more emphasis on balls being played into channels on the ground. A repeat of Wednesday does not bear thinking about, and whilst Hull continue to struggle I saw them earlier in the season score 3 goals at Rotherham on one of my family visits, they played some good football but were obviously vulnerable to pressure ( they conceded 2 and it could have been 5) and have struggled for goals since...it is a fixture that should be viewed as one to really go for, but whatever the approach is from the manager please let it prove effective!
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Oct 26, 2018 15:56:49 GMT
Im one of the "Hope we lose" people, in a desperate plea for change. 0-6 would be great, Think the game has got 1-1 written all over it. Has for Mick McCarthy,.....God help us Noooooo Nooooooo Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!...… It took Ipswich long enough to get rid of him, ask Ipswich fans what they thought of him....hes not the answer. Don't care where they are now, that's not because he left, Steve Bruce nearly bankrupted Sheff Utd and still failed. He wants money but still fails to deliver, ask Villa fans. Nobby Nolan is a risk. The answer is on our doorstep. Gardening leave for Parkinson, then give David Lee and Tony Kelly till Xmas. Nothing to lose.
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Oct 26, 2018 16:15:58 GMT
If fans want someone with connections to the club theres always Brownie...……. theres also someone, who never gets mentioned and would probably jump at the chance of taking the job, hes got plenty managerial experience and also has International experience and loves the club...………………………...MIXU …. Its David Lee/Kelly for me ! And bring in the Under23s
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Post by OohMac on Oct 26, 2018 18:35:06 GMT
I don't want this to be a cup final for Phil. Win this and another 6 months of back to normal.
For me it shouldn't come into factor. Ken has had 2 and a half years to see what Phil is all about. We all know it and a small victory wouldn't change much.
I think when Ken releases comments like that it's almost like his decision is made. Checkov, that's right were going there, says don't introduce a loaded gun on stage if it's not going to be fired. Kens released that, his words are there and for me it makes PP a target. It's like threatening to get rid of your dog if it ever barks again.
Sorry, this message is all over the place. Anyway last week I said we needed 5 points from this 3 games. At best we can get 4 at worse 1. Neither is good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2018 18:57:40 GMT
Not sure about this game it's win he stays get beat and he still could stay 🤷♂️ . On the subject of managers why is it that Bolton cannot or will not attract a top manager surely it can't just be about money? COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 26, 2018 22:49:51 GMT
Well I can't see any way PP will change his usual system or selection. In fairness, if he genuinely believes that what he's been doing is the right thing, just let down by individual mistakes, then why would he? There will be the usual 4-5 changes in personnel but I don't expect to see any change in the style of play and if by chance we should get in front, I expect the shut up shop to increase to the frustration of the crowd. Hull are a dangerous opponent because they obviously have some quality players still but are themselves low on confidence. The worst thing we can do in my mind is give them the majority of possession because it will allow them to dominate the game which they aren't used to doing and it may give them a lift. It's all up in the air though and literally anything can happen but since I expect both teams to be nervous I feel it will be the usual purgatory to watch and I think Hull will sneak the win. I would say though that however much I want Parky gone I'd rather we win and Parky be judged on performances not points.
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Post by OohMac on Oct 27, 2018 5:33:52 GMT
That sums it up well Whites. How many teams say the sign of a good team is playing badly and winning.
We've seen with West Brom and Derby this season that Phil can get a win BUT for us to win we must. Defend impeccably for 95 mins, almost robotic like. The keeper needs to pull off three or four great saves. The wingers need to run 15-20k. Magennis needs to hold up play and then when his one half chance comes he needs to make sure he buries it.
Then the ref has to deny their penalty claims.
If all the aligns then we may sneak a win. As one element of this fails then we lose.
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Post by wots on Oct 27, 2018 12:21:50 GMT
Well I can't see any way PP will change his usual system or selection. In fairness, if he genuinely believes that what he's been doing is the right thing, just let down by individual mistakes, then why would he? There will be the usual 4-5 changes in personnel but I don't expect to see any change in the style of play and if by chance we should get in front, I expect the shut up shop to increase to the frustration of the crowd. Hull are a dangerous opponent because they obviously have some quality players still but are themselves low on confidence. The worst thing we can do in my mind is give them the majority of possession because it will allow them to dominate the game which they aren't used to doing and it may give them a lift. It's all up in the air though and literally anything can happen but since I expect both teams to be nervous I feel it will be the usual purgatory to watch and I think Hull will sneak the win. I would say though that however much I want Parky gone I'd rather we win and Parky be judged on performances not points. Made me laugh did that whites. You're a comedian and don't even know it.
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Post by wots on Oct 27, 2018 13:21:55 GMT
It'll be "up in the air" today alright, Beevers is back in the team.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2018 13:51:21 GMT
7 changes again does he not know his best 11 yet this is our 15th game he must have some idea of who he wants to start with. Fxck it 3-0 today COYWM
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Post by Alptrotter on Oct 27, 2018 13:51:35 GMT
Apart from Beevers, this looks to be a decent selection by Parky. Oz should give us some guile, Vela and Williams the legs in midfiield and Olkowski and Dyer the width. With the pace up front we have, I’m actually looking forward to watching the game. Hope I’m still as optimistic in a coule of hours!
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 27, 2018 13:54:08 GMT
Well I can't see any way PP will change his usual system or selection. In fairness, if he genuinely believes that what he's been doing is the right thing, just let down by individual mistakes, then why would he? There will be the usual 4-5 changes in personnel but I don't expect to see any change in the style of play and if by chance we should get in front, I expect the shut up shop to increase to the frustration of the crowd. Hull are a dangerous opponent because they obviously have some quality players still but are themselves low on confidence. The worst thing we can do in my mind is give them the majority of possession because it will allow them to dominate the game which they aren't used to doing and it may give them a lift. It's all up in the air though and literally anything can happen but since I expect both teams to be nervous I feel it will be the usual purgatory to watch and I think Hull will sneak the win. I would say though that however much I want Parky gone I'd rather we win and Parky be judged on performances not points. Made me laugh did that whites. You're a comedian and don't even know it. Ive been told many times what a comedian I am Wots but I'm not sure it's in the way you mean?? ;-) isn't it a shame though that it takes being threatened with the sack to make Parky field anything approaching an attacking line up? Most of us have been begging him for many months to put out a team just like this but he has stubbornly ignored it continuing his negative, one up top low possession borefest. Perversely, a good performance and win today is more of a reason to fire him than a poor losing performance because we could all see what needed to be done and he couldn't. How much has he cost KA in lost gate money because of it? Frankly whatever happens today I'd sack Parkinson anyway because we all know that once he feels safe again it will be back to his boring, negative don't lose attitude. Part company now so we can put him behind us and look forward with hope.
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Post by boris on Oct 27, 2018 14:10:23 GMT
Oh dear, 0-1 after 10 minutes. Not looking good for PP!
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