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Post by riochforthereebok on Jan 1, 2018 12:42:38 GMT
First post for 2018 and I’ll start with a 2-1 win for us BUT..... Only if PP doesn’t revert to type and change a winning formula as he did after every win we’ve had COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 14:36:59 GMT
Would be nice if I could celebrate with a home win before flying home tomorrow 2-1 COYWM 😀🍺
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Post by Alptrotter on Jan 1, 2018 17:04:55 GMT
Thoroughly deserved victory today. I felt we were better than Hull all over the park, but especially in our desire and determination. And, love him or hate him, that has to be credit to Parky. Madine’s free kick was sublime, but it was a pity he couldn’t take advantage of the easier chance at the death. Would have saved me almost collapsing when Hull shot narrowly wide just after. Oddly, I think the two enforced subs (Henry and Pratley) changed the game, which should give Parky pause for thought about our line up when at home. More creativity in the centre yielded much benefit as we always posed a threat to Hull. Cullen was again very good and Morais excellent in a more central role. I also though Vela played much better when a little deeper and the back five, especially Burke and Beevers were superb. Still felt we were playing with ten men as I really cannot see Buckley as anything other than someone who over runs the ball , or loses it softly. He needs to shape up, or ship out for me.
A great day and the end of a wonderful festive period for BWFC!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 17:17:33 GMT
Oh dear me there's going to be a thick head on that plane tomorrow morning get in 9 points from 12 if anyone would have backed that the bookies would have 😂😂😂 all day. COYWM a massive well done to Madine PP and the whole team what a festive season this has been enjoy my fellow doubters maybe just maybe we might come out of this season 👌🤞. But let's not get carried away small acorns and all that yyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeesssssss.
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Post by greydad on Jan 1, 2018 17:58:02 GMT
A really good battling performance, and as paulm pointed out a really easy chance missed late on by our free kick expert, but a deserved victory over the 90 plus minutes. To overcome 2 injuries early on speaks well of the players' and managements response, and whilst Chiphillspud is right in saying it would be silly to get carried away there were plenty of positives to take from today that augur well for the future...today's level of commitment, endeavour and, at times, genuine quality, could well be sufficient to achieve safety if replicated with some consistency. There should be more to come from one or two players, Buckley did indeed struggle today, shame he was brought down when he did manage to show good control and skill, but whatever luck the Whites had today was thoroughly justified.
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Post by OohMac on Jan 1, 2018 18:26:18 GMT
Two clean sheets? 6 points! What's going on. Now looking at the likes of Millwall, Reading and co and thinking if we carry on we were soon be promoted to that "mini league"
True were only points off the drop still but we only started the season in October. If we could have those games again we may be already looking at safety and with that surely a buyer/investor would have to show interest.
Madine had added £1M on his value. He's now worth £1.1m for me. (Joking, I think if there's interest we should ask £3-4M. Probably now out biggest asset as I think Vela in this league is a little anonymous.
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Post by davidm on Jan 1, 2018 18:58:12 GMT
The result was all important to us today.
We just about deserved it but, as often when we are leading at home at half time, we just sat back and invited Hull to attack us. They could have scored a couple but we could also playing on the break. I don’t understand or accept that dropping back once we are winning is a good tactic. It has cost us twice already this season and given us too many scary moments when we need to control games.
Anyway, moan over – those 3 points are significant as we are out of the bottom 3 for at least 2 weeks now.
The manager reverted to his usual formation, leaving out those who had played successfully at Sheffield. I don’t quite get that as, Yes Cullen Le Fondre, Morais had played their first matches for ages at Sheffield and could be tired but changing a winning team??
The game started quite pedestrian. Moves were slow – from both sides – and little was created early on. Hull had more of the ball but that’s norm for the course with us.
We took the lead when an incisive move finished with Buckley tripped 20 yards out. After his previous attempts in other games, I was screaming for Madine not to take the free kick but, amazingly, he scored with a glorious shot.
Maybe I doze off but I can’t remember much more of the first half. Hull had a clear header from a corner and a few scrambles and we did OK in that we did attack. So half time came and we were deservedly ahead.
What is said in the dressing room at half time, I don’t know but, yet again, we seem to want to protect a lead and nothing else. Hull had all the ball. They were able to get to 30 yards from our goal with just no challenge but were quite toothless after that. A couple of balls squirted across the front of goal and we just hung on and hung on.
We had reached the stage were when we got the ball in defence we just hit it as far forward as possible – always to a Hull man – and the pressure continued.
We had the occasional flurry upfield but it was limited and our passing was, as usual, dreadful until the last minute when Ameobi and Le Fondre played “holdball” up in the corner and suddenly Le Fondre got free to put a lovely centre onto Madine’s head only for him to head wide. Seemed to be an easy chance to score.
Somehow all Hull’s possession led to nothing other than scrambles and a shot in the last seconds that flashed just wide.
Not a great performance at all but a great result.
Alnwick - 7 Did all that was asked of him. No mistakes.
Little - 6 We did not get much of his usual link up play with Ameobi and made a mad panic clearance at the end.
Burke - 7 Very steady. Good game. Do we keep him or send him back to West Ham now?
Beevers - 6 Steady.
Robinson - 5 His ball control was shocking and scary.
Henry - Pratley - 6 Did all right until injured.
Ameobi - 6 Just missing that extra bit of spark.
Buckley - 3 Awful. His first 3 touches were abysmal and it didn’t improve much.
Vela - 5 Still not dominating. Did better when he was forced to drop back after the injuries.
Madine - 8 Probably his best match of the season but missed a sitter in the last minute.
Morais - 6 Did OK playing in the no 10 role.
Cullen - 7 His best match for us. Same question as Burke - do we keep him or send him back to West Ham now?
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Post by bonaparte on Jan 1, 2018 19:06:07 GMT
I agree much with DavidM, but not Madine, won nothing, held nothing,tired and missed a sitter and other chances. 5
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Post by andyl on Jan 1, 2018 19:06:35 GMT
An enjoyable Burnden style pitched battle in atrocious conditions. I thought PP was wise not to try a back three again given what happened at their ground. I had no quibble with the selection really save for a concern that four games in nine days might be a step too far for Henry and so it proved as he limped off very early to be followed by Pratley. But not before Madine crashed an amazing Brazilian style free kick rocket into the net. Where did that come from?
Cullen and before long Vela took over the defensive midfield duties and I thought did well. Cullen is less good position ally than Henry but compensated with speed and alacrity
in that first half we did ok but Robinson and especially Buckley kept miscontrolling or mispassing the ball and Ameobi didn't get going but for all that we seemed on top of them not least because Beevers, Little and the excellent Burke dominated their attack who were restricted to a couple of half hit shots
In the second half against the wind we struggled to get possession and even more to retain it. However Ameobi got going and both he and Madine reinforced the defence when necessary. Hull all but equalised after a quick counter attack but Alnwick blocked the shot. Sen Larssen came on and they swept passes all around us but again got nowhere as we were tenacious in pursuit. The pressure ratcheted up further and they went very close on the far post and forced a number of corners. All of this said apart from hitting a post( fabulous off-putting Little last ditch block attempt for me saved the day) early in the half they were second best most of the time.
We too had breakaway. A glancing Morais header from a Vela cross was a good effort and late on Madine headed wide from a Le Fondre cross. I think we saw the game out quite well really and deserved to win
Madine was a tower of strength in this game and his goal- wow but I think Burke was MoM -good selection by PP
Alnwick 8 Little 8 Burke 9 Beevers 7 Robinson 6. Henry/ Pratley N/A Cullen 6 Vela 7 Ameobi 6 Morais 6 Madine 8 Buckley 3
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Post by thegrud1 on Jan 1, 2018 19:10:28 GMT
WELL...What can I say....I,ve slagged him many times but credit to the guy ,<madine was superb today...I was screaming let Amoebi take it,then he only hits an unstoppable free kick ! Not only that but the headers he won actually went to a white shirt most of the time..AND he held the ball up...WHATS GOING ON? ? I thought when Henry/Pratley had to go off we would be light in midfield,,but having a couple who were comfortable in possesion to replace them proved me wrong. Funny old game football.I KNOW NOTHING! lol
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Post by Pedro on Jan 1, 2018 19:50:00 GMT
So Madine is practising free kicks after us all groaning about the previous two in the last home game!! Now he can concentrate on practising to head the ball like a proper forward. (Just watched the replay a couple of times and it was way worse than I first thought). That certain goal would have given us the buffer that we never seem to have at the end of these fraught chaotic games. He was great in defence and has a full back's job waiting for him in later years. Our skill levels are not improving much. Yet again the opposing team outpassed us easily and showed us up and how many times did we lose the ball?? Hull must be kicking themselves that their strikers were rubbish but what a stop by Little and the courageous save by Alnwick when he dived at the feet of Bowen just as he was about to shoot. Terrific stuff. However our tenacity and hunger to win is improving game by game. A great team performance in the never say die department. COYFWM From BBC: Possession Home34% Away66% Shots Home14 Away14 Shots on Target Home3 Away5 Corners Home5 Away9 Fouls Home9 Away10
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 1, 2018 20:51:06 GMT
How cold was that today, I was absolutely freezing? The conditions were absolutely atrocious and both sets of players deserve a medal for what they produced today. Not much to add to others comments but I do wish Parky would stop this second half backs to the wall surrender it's doing my nerves no good at all. Having left Bramhall Lane buzzing on Saturday I left the Macron completely frustrated at the negativity of our second half. I actually think Hull are the worst team I've seen this year and like others we've played were there for the taking. I thought Cullen was again superb and growing in confidence and Morais adopted his central role well. Sometimes out of misfortune with injuries little nuggets appear and if Parky can just adopt a more positive attitude we may well just about survive. Despite the last two results however, I still fear Parky will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with his negative, over defensive systems. Lucky again not to concede as we were on Saturday but how long can that continue?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jan 1, 2018 23:25:48 GMT
Well I said 2-1 but I’m not going to grumble at 1-0 Fantastic back to back wins, who’d have thought that a few weeks ago!! I think that our real aspirations should be to go for Millwall QPR Reading Barnsley and drag them into the mini league above ours as it’s clear that there’s still a lot of fight in the teams around us like Sunderland Brum Hull and bloody hell, Burton (0-3) where did that come from?? I’m not going to be two faced and say well done Parky, I’ll no doubt get a slating but I’ve always said there’s enough quality in our squad to at least make a fist of it in the bottom half of the table and I will not give credit when my team, playing at home, struggle to get beyond 35% possession., that’s something for the manager to address, which he won’t as he knows not how to. If we take that format into games against Derby Wolves and Villa at home, we’ll get pummelled with their quality. Very happy with the win and the start to 2018 and long may it continue, even if PP is still in the chair🙄
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