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Post by thegrud1 on Nov 16, 2017 19:08:21 GMT
I,ll go with a 2-1 win. I still believe a fully fit squad will get us a mid-table finish!
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Post by OohMac on Nov 17, 2017 15:26:52 GMT
I'm assuming you mean Bolton 2-1, rather than home team score first?
I find it really hard to predict us to win away simply because its been too long. Could we not have defended for an extra 3 mins at Craven Cottage?
We're 10 points off Preston and I would set them as our target to finish above, which means we need to end the away day hoodoo.
I think safe bet is 1-1. Which will be acceptable I suppose.
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Nov 17, 2017 18:59:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2017 18:59:57 GMT
Would be great to finally win away from home in the championship but I can't get beyond our luck or lack of it against teams that are on a bad run themselves when they come up against the bearing gifts Bolton so š but it's a 2-1 defeat for me But with fingers crossed for a win or draw.
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Nov 17, 2017 19:51:04 GMT
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Post by riochforthereebok on Nov 17, 2017 19:51:04 GMT
No ALF at all??
1-1
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Post by riochforthereebok on Nov 17, 2017 20:55:02 GMT
We havenāt really offered anything in that first half and on chances/possession, we really should be at least 2 down COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 17, 2017 21:12:43 GMT
Back to normal then? How pathetic are we?
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Post by davidm on Nov 17, 2017 21:49:49 GMT
God that was awful!
I was happy with a point but the football was embarrassing.
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Nov 17, 2017 21:56:35 GMT
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Post by riochforthereebok on Nov 17, 2017 21:56:35 GMT
What Iāve seen tonight tells me that with a more aggressive exciting goal chasing manager, we have a decent enough squad to be a few places higher than we are!! Thatās was just boring though from both sides Still... itās a point, an away point and not a loss and it continues the fight for survival for Mr Lucky and the boys
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 17, 2017 22:00:19 GMT
What Iāve seen tonight tells me that with a more aggressive exciting goal chasing manager, we have a decent enough squad to be a few places higher than we are!! Thatās was just boring though from both sides Still... itās a point, an away point and not a loss and it continues the fight for survival for Mr Lucky and the boys Not a loss rftr but yet again 2 points thrown away against a poor team who once again made us very much look second best. Please don't give performances like this any credit, it was appalling and another example of why keeping Parkinson guarantees relegation.
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Post by Pedro on Nov 17, 2017 22:09:47 GMT
First half dire but half time team talk must have been brilliant. Much better with terrific effort. Just no players with any idea or the skill to score.
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 18, 2017 8:29:20 GMT
First half dire but half time team talk must have been brilliant. Much better with terrific effort. Just no players with any idea or the skill to score. Sorry Pedro but I just don't accept this "Our players don't have the skill". I listened to Chris Wilder last night on local TV talking about why Sheffield Utd are at the top and says quite bluntly it's because they want to be. Every game they go out to win. It's a mindset that our players never have under Parkinson who must be the most negative minded manager I can ever remember us having. He's even convinced some that just "not losing" is a good result. No it's not, we've recently played a succession of teams who are on bad runs and we haven't beaten one of them. Preston last night was a perfect example. What was that first half all about? Why weren't we playing an attacking side and taking the game to North End from the start? It was abysmal. Please don't give me they worked hard. That should be a given. It comes from the top and I'm sick of it and all the apologists on here and in the BEN who are happy to defend this atrocity.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 9:46:09 GMT
Say what you feel 63 oh for a goal scorer and a manager with a bit of attack mindedness . Is PP MEGSON in disguise and when is Madine going to win the fans over all fans ? When he scores 15 or 20 a season then I will go up to the man and shake his hand and say you are a striker. He is a target man and that's it just watched the game again on tv and if Preston had a goal scorer themselves we would have lost that. But that all said clean sheet and another point. Sheffield United are 24 points in front of us and sit top of the table
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 18, 2017 11:56:30 GMT
If I said what I really, really feel Chip I'd be banned from the board!! I just can't believe how many people seem pleased because we've scraped a few lucky draws against poor teams we could easily have beaten. I'm not trying to kid anyone we have a top tier squad, we don't, but neither do I believe they're anywhere near as bad as people paint them. Madine is the prime example. He scores a couple and people forget all the dross we've endured from him. I know football fans are fickle but it was clear all of last year what Parkinson was about and that despite a very lucky promotion he should have been gone. But no, Anderson can't afford a good manager so he gives him a new contract and we're stuck with him. Maybe KA isn't overly concerned if we go down, now he's freed up assets from the ACV he'll probably have flogged them off until there's nothing left and he puts us in admin. The situations serious and is highly likely to end in something very nasty. Chris Wilder and Sheffield United just prove my point perfectly.
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Post by thegrud1 on Nov 18, 2017 12:46:31 GMT
Altho I agree with most of your points ws,Remember.
Anderson dug us out of a very deep pit,Parkinson got us promoted..give credit where credits due. Playing Madine dictates the way we play. I genuinely believe that most of the squad can play football,,,,,but the managers style is hoof ball. I,ve said it before ,why make a big effort to sign Alf and not play him?? The target this year is to stay in this league,I think we will just about scrape that. If we do I think Ken will sell at a profit and move on,and I for one will thank him for guiding the club thru what was an awful mess Anyway onward and upward COYW
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Post by Pedro on Nov 18, 2017 14:52:41 GMT
"Reasons to be thankful....." We are pleased we did not lose. We are pleased that the tide has finally turned and we have gone six unbeaten with our league 1 side (NOT Barcelona ffs) We are pleased that it was the first clean sheet for 15 odd games. Of course it is very frustrating not to score but it seems to me that Parky, who I am not that enamoured with, is doing what he did last season. Strengthen the defence first - (as did Sam btw) and then concentrate on getting the rest of the team to chip in with the goals because he knows as well as us that we do not have a 20 goal a season striker. The other thing he did last season was finally get us to play as well as we can for the full term but that and the goals took a long time. He has got to end us playing first halves like we did yesterday. Very lucky (better defence) that they did not score. We have no money so nothing is going to change with the Manager - maybe we can get another Anelka in January if our scouts are good enough! Don't forget what being a Wanderers' fan is all about - the roller coaster ride etc etc "It's the hope that kills yer"
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