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Post by davidm on Aug 22, 2017 14:57:54 GMT
Does anyone have any interest in this match?
No comments as yet and we are only 4 hours from kick-off.
I expect 7 or 8 changes for tonight – likewise with Sheff Wed.
Earing, Buckley, Robinson, Wilbraham, Little or Darby or both, Alnwick will all play.
It will be interesting to see the formation. I’m afraid that I expect 3-5-2 and hoofball to Wilbraham again.
Not too sure about forecasting the result as Wednesday may not be bothered also but let’s hope we can get through and enjoy a “big” match in the next round.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 16:41:33 GMT
I ain't that bothered what with other things going on but yes a win would be welcome and maybe a big draw in the next round
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Post by thekraken on Aug 22, 2017 21:05:25 GMT
Sounds like a thriller in the second half. Can't argue with scoring three goals. Interested to hear what caused them....Though we were hanging on at the end it should have given us some confidence. Will any of the second string keep their places for Friday?
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Post by greydad on Aug 22, 2017 22:39:18 GMT
It was good to see wing-backs getting forward, particularly Robinson first half...the second half subs were to be expected with Friday in mind, but served only to disrupt what had been an effective performance, particularly in midfield. Derik must surely have done enough to earn a start on Friday, he and Karacan played very well I thought, and Derik's involvement in the build up to the 3rd goal was immense. Defensively we were fine until the final quarter, as possession was conceded too easily from the front, and midfield struggled for control leading to the type of pressure on the defence that we have become accustomed to. Wilbraham did what was expected of him, at times very effectively, but I can't see him starting. Armstrong linked well with him, and made some good runs and took his penalty well. Robinson needs a bit more strength defensively, but could be an option playing ahead of Taylor on the left of midfield, even if from the bench. Buckley showed flashes of class, did well to get the penalty, although he should have showed better control to score himself..perhaps he should have been given a bit more game time instead of being subbed . All in all a deserved win, not sure whether the changes made tonight will translate to the starting eleven on Friday, but I would certainly include Derik from the off, protecting whatever defensive formation P.P. decides upon. The first 60-70 minutes should have given the manager food for thought re: wing backs, as should the central midfield pairing of Derik and Karacan, the former being my man of the match. A solid performance from the team as a whole, with committed, if frantic defending late on.... I couldn't see clearly enough to apportion any blame for Wednesday's goals, but it did look somewhat dodgy in the area..it would have been a shame if the hitherto sound defence by Dervite and Beevers, and Darby too at times, had been to no avail. A welcome home win then, illuminated by Robinson's efforts first half and the quality overall of Karacan and Derik....hope things remain positive on Friday!
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Post by davidm on Aug 23, 2017 8:27:14 GMT
Well that was a whole lot better and entertaining too.
First and foremost, it must be said that there much less hoofball than normal. Play actually went forward on the ground through midfield and down the flanks with the wing backs.
Both sides were “under strength” by choice. Mind you Wednesday still had Rhodes, Winnall, Bannan, Wallace etc.
First half was even. Wednesday probably had more possession but we coped OK. They had 2 decent chances which Winnall managed to put wide on both occasions while we pressed but did not create many clear chances.
We scored from a dead ball, as usual, when a corner went in the box and everyone shouted for a penalty. I then looked at the ref, saying no, and missed Dervite hitting the ball home. I understand it was a left foot volley.
Wednesday could, in fact should, have immediately equalised as they got through our defence and Foresteri, who was clearly offside because he was behind Alnwick and onlyvhad one defender in front of him, mishit and we scrambled it away. They should have scored but it would have been a major error by the linesman had it counted.
Half time one nil up – how would it go? Well it went excellently. We had a purple patch in which Armstrong terrorised them on the break. Wednesday had a corner which was cleared to Armstrong only 15 yards outside our box. He turned his man and raced the length of the pitch to set Buckley up for a clear chance but he dithered badly and his shot was blocked.
Not to worry as he did it again a few minutes later. He raced half the length of the pitch and set Buckley up one on one with goalie again. Buckley miscontrolled it again and pushed it too far forward but just toed it past the keeper who flattened him. Penalty but no card for the keeper.
Armstrong rocketed the penalty passed the keeper.
Derik, who had been massive in midfield, broke down he left and got a lovely centre which Karacan headed wonderfully for the ball to loop over the keeper and in. Great header.
Wednesday were visibly gone at this stage and we could have had more but then the manager stepped in and the game changed.
In a period of just a few minutes he subbed Armstrong, Karacan and Buckley – our 3 most attacking players – and we lost all momentum. I understand the concept of saving people for Friday but that move nearly cost us the match.
Rhodes took advantage of some dithering between Dervite and Alnwick when either could have cleared the ball to make it 3-1 and Wednesday suddenly realised they were back in it.
We were then under the cosh for the final 15 minutes. Sloppy defending allowed Rhodes to get in between Dervite and Beevers for 3-2 and we were hanging on.
We somehow did hang on and deserved to but it was tense.
Overall a very decent entertaining performance.
Plusses were Derik, Armstrong, Robinson and Karacan.
Derik must start on Friday. Cullen could push forward into central midfield at the expense of my mate Pratley.
We must also keep this positive approach and do not just sit back and hang on.
Alnwick - 6 OK. Some hesitation between him and Dervite on the first goal.
Darby - 6 One excellent clearance off the line in the second half and much better than his first 2 games.
Dervite - 7 Bit iffy for goal no 1. Looked better as the centre of the back 3.
Beevers - 7 Usual solid self. Not sure if he should have done more for goal 2.
Little - 6 Steady. Not in the Morais class as an attacking wing back but overall fine.
Robinson - 7 Good going forward, as he was at Crewe. Some defensive naivety but that will improve.
Derik - 9 Very good. Solid. Some good tackling which is great to see. Must start on Friday.
Karacan - 8 Good also. Ran midfield for a good while.
Buckley - 6 Some very decent movement but twice failed miserably when Armstrong set him up on one on ones with goalie.
Armstrong - 8 Used his pace well in the second half. His best match so far.
Wilbraham - 6 Won a few high balls, of which there were much fewer tonight.
Morais - 6 Played central in replacing Buckley.
Pratley - 5 Yet again, I don’t see what he does other than foul and lose the ball.
Le Fondre - 6 Worked really hard. Doesn’t have the pace of Armstrong which eventually beat Wednesday but still good.
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Post by thegrud1 on Aug 23, 2017 8:51:19 GMT
Extremely impressed with robinson,would like to see if he can defend against better players but he had a really good game.
My M.O.M ....OSIDE he added tackling to his game last night,we all know he,s got pace and an eye for a pass.
I actually enjoyed watching a FOOTBALL game not a HOOFBALL game !
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Post by OohMac on Aug 23, 2017 14:29:57 GMT
3-0 up wouldn't it have been a more positive sub to bring Earing on in stead of Pratley.
Firstly because last time the lad played he got plaudits from the manager. This cup will be the only time he gets to show what he's about. Other players may benefit from additional rest and bringing a youngster on will always please the fans.
So that's without being negative to any players that were brought on too. Personally wasn't bothered about the match up until 3-2, then it seemed like we must hang on for dear life.
This cup is a bit of a slap in the face for fans. A sponsor I struggle to pronounce and draws so early in the morning that only insomniacs can watch.
If they're going to experiment ive no problem. Maybe even welcome it. Could bill it as "The Road to Dubai" as with golf and have the final there. Or America. Asia.
Would be annoying for fans to get to a final and not get a ticket but if some kind of cap was put on travel costs, ticket prices could be a decent spectacle.
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Post by Pedro on Aug 23, 2017 18:42:22 GMT
I really enjoyed the first 70 minutes of this game until our Manager in his wisdom decided to make farcical substitutions. We were so in charge, organised and pacey and then it disintigrated into chaos and the same old same old. We were 3-0 up and PP totally sabotaged the team and we were very lucky to hold on. If he can't see what we see almost every time Pratley takes the pitch then he is yet another to add to the 5 before him who doesn't learn from his mistakes.  |
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Post by OohMac on Aug 24, 2017 6:39:16 GMT
West Ham and the Olympic stadium awaits. Good draw. Premier league club down on their luck. I give is half a chance there.
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