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Jul 13, 2017 9:01:29 GMT
Post by joanna on Jul 13, 2017 9:01:29 GMT
Is this forum still alive? All seems dead at the moment. I would have thought fans would have had something to say about finances, signings, new recruits, Spearing etc, even though it is the close season.
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Jul 13, 2017 12:11:26 GMT
Post by thegrud1 on Jul 13, 2017 12:11:26 GMT
I,m speechless that all this rubbish isnt sorted yet !!!!!!
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Jul 13, 2017 18:58:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2017 18:58:20 GMT
Is this forum still alive? All seems dead at the moment. I would have thought fans would have had something to say about finances, signings, new recruits, Spearing etc, even though it is the close season. Well I don't think theres owt to get excited about , no one of note has joined those that have seem like the usual journeymen and as for the accounts **** this guy speaks more bull than any politician I have ever known , Spearing ? well just another mercenary with a good agent , one thing I would say is if he or any other tries to sneek back in then the answer has got to be get s*****fed
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Jul 14, 2017 12:54:44 GMT
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Post by OohMac on Jul 14, 2017 12:54:44 GMT
Yeah it's tumbleweed time. Usually this period fills me with nostalgia as I usually watch The Premiership years on Sky can see Bolton bloodying the nose of Wenger, Benitez, Fergie and Co.
We kept on everyone I wanted from last year and Dervite. Bringing in Darby and Mark Little(TVs Joe Mangel) was hardly going to get this place buzzing but Sammy Ameobi in the stands is a good sign. The West Ham paid for me but lead me to think that a mid table position may be possible but I still think we need someone who can score 20+. When we went up with Sam many of those tight close games were decided with a MIchael Ricketts goal.
I think most matches next season will be flip of the coin stuff. One set piece, bit of clinical finishing will be the difference between 3 points or 0.
I can't say I'm worried about spearing. As said before out of ten I rate him as such passing(4) tackling(5) covering ground(4) and set pieces(6) his special attribute is breaking up play, which while can be important can be done by any one. Bring Neil Danns back if that's all there is.
Tending to ignore the financial side because there's not a lot I understand about it and there's even less I can do about it so will let others worry about that.
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Jul 15, 2017 7:29:52 GMT
Post by Pedro on Jul 15, 2017 7:29:52 GMT
Yes still alive! I keep an eye on the BN, Official site and NewsNow. I have tickets for the Stoke game and am getting pre-season score notifications from one of my apps which surprised me. My group of "Wanderers on tour" fans who have season tickets has dwindled from a dozen to four but one has returned this season and the others still pick their games and have not stopped coming altogether.
As above I am not into high finance but have friends who are and they recognise that KA is managing to keep it all together and know that what goes in the books does not always tell the whole story.
As long as we are not battered every game and are in the relegation battle all season I will be very happy to watch a few wins home and away and finish mid table ish!
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Jul 15, 2017 9:13:41 GMT
Post by joanna on Jul 15, 2017 9:13:41 GMT
Good to hear from some of the old faithfuls on here beginning to stir from summer hibernation. I expect others will do the same when league fixtures start.
My brief take on some of the close-season events: I think we'll miss Spearing as a rousing captain and hard worker. Happy to see Ameobi back...he's the only one who can lift the fans from their seats with something special. Finances are still worrying and Holdsworth needs a good shaking. I'm pleased with Parkinson's dealings in getting rid of much of the deadwood and somehow attracting new recruits, whilst controlling the wage bill. If the team chosen for the Dundee game was a reflection of our likely first-choice 11, I approve. Also good for confidence to get some pre-season wins under our belt. I think Phil is showing competence and good judgement....certainly better than recent predecessors! On a minor point, I'm not keen on the neckline of the new shirts......I know about fashion!
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Jul 15, 2017 19:48:10 GMT
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 15, 2017 19:48:10 GMT
I'm still alive for now Joanna Is the new shirt going to be that striped blue BetFred one?? Or is the home white not been released yet? I've been far too busy to notice anything happening other than Ameobi signing, for just one year though and he's still only young!! Don't really get that one 🤔
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Jul 17, 2017 15:23:43 GMT
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Post by OohMac on Jul 17, 2017 15:23:43 GMT
Both shirts have been revealed. Purple away kit which looks ok. The home shirt looks like it will be not very flattering if you're body fat is over 10%.
As far as I can see Jay Spear has not agreed a new contract as yet so I think there's a burning ember still there but I'm not concerned.
Linked today with Armstrong who was great at league one but missed the mark in the championship. So jury's out but think he will be good if we can get that over the line.
Ambition for next season has to be survival. Are there 3 clubs we can better? Millwall yes. Burton, Barnsley, Sheff Utd? I'd say it's a tough call but yes if we get West Ham duo, Armstrong and possibly another striker we have a great chance.
If I could bring one player (hypothetical) from the past it would be a proper midfielder like Mcateer or Holden back.
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Jul 18, 2017 10:32:28 GMT
Post by davidm on Jul 18, 2017 10:32:28 GMT
Yes, we are still alive – just about!
I think that I’m a bit too long in the tooth to speculate on who is coming and who is going during the summer months. As we approach the last couple of weeks before kick-off, the old heart starts beating faster again and I’m back in the football obsession mood.
On players in and out, I am reasonably happy. We have kept the ones who served us well last season apart from Spearing. On the Spearing issue, I believe the club is right. We cannot afford ludicrous salaries.
The players released were the correct ones (maybe Clayton may come back to bite us). The leavers all seems to have settled at league 1 or 2 or nowhere (Trotter!). I would have thought that Wilson was better than league 2. It will be interesting which league Spearing finishes in.
On the finances, I think we still have a lot of confusion and heartache to go. The transfer embargo might be a red herring as, even if it was lifted, we can’t afford to pay a fee.
For those old enough to remember Dads Army, Ken Anderson reminds me of Private Walker. There is always something going on in the background with him but, having said that, he managed to run the club in a way that got us promoted so well done. I just hope there is not anything simmering underneath that will come up and bite us.
I had hoped that once promotion was sealed, a bidder would come in and buy the club but no sign yet. Maybe the Blue Marble issue needs sorting first. I expect Ken Anderson to “win” on this one! If Mr Anderson eventually leaves us financially stable with a new owner and with a wad of money in his back pocket, I will be happy. It is the financial security that needs to be achieved. Can’t say the same about Dean Holdsworth, I’m afraid.
On next season, I must be the eternal optimist!
There are lots, including bookies, who expect us to struggle and we do have an horrendous fixture list at the start of the season but there was enough in what I saw, home and away, last season to think we will be OK. It may be built around a solid defence but that was what got us promoted last season.
On the players:-
- As with most people, I am worried about goal scoring. Even more so when Le Fondre seems to have been placed in the second squad so far. Are we going to play Madine on his own up front? Hope not – I want to see 2 strikers but how we fit that in with Buckley, Ameobi and Morais, I do not know.
- I also agree with the comment on the need for a McAteer/Holden midfielder. I am way down the list of Pratley lovers – I just don’t think he can run the midfield for us.
- Defensively – is the manager looking at a flat back 4? Looks like it, which moves away from last season’s successful back 3 but signing 2 full backs looks that way. A bit worried about that as our defence needs to be the rock that we build on.
So roll on August 6th!
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Jul 18, 2017 13:58:03 GMT
Post by andyl on Jul 18, 2017 13:58:03 GMT
Yes, also still alive. But somewhat swamped with golf, cricket watching. Wimbledon watching and other pleasures away from the stresses of BWFC and the political shambles. I do wish the football season started in the 20s of August like it always used to; there was always a natural momentum away from summer sport into the full swing of the football season. 4.30pm on a Sunday is a daft time for the first game and I may not be able to make it - last season I got to every home game bar the last and about a third of the away matches. There are fewer 'local' matches for me in the Midlands this year and I don't much like travelling to Northern away games because crowd behaviour has deteriorated sharply and I just don't want to have to stand and be jostled etc. etc. Is it age? Nope I always took that view.
All inall though I like the signings. I worry about our keepers- they will lose us key games and we lack in creative midfield but attack is getting better and there are more options. Armstrong was a sensation at Coventry and I've always liked Buckley- they may have course have deterirated but as Sammy and Morais showed last year being in the doldrums at other clubs is no indication of what will happen at ours.
Re KA - he seems to be holding things together quite well. Life goes on. Criticism of Dean Holdsworth above is in my opinion too harsh and whatever happens he should go down as haveing saved the club from extinction- he did this before KA got involved and he involved KA. He took a huge gamble with Blu Marble and really dicey or absent financial projections. Good for him- he may still risk ruin for his intervention. If history shows him naive and that's an if and if KA's project goes pear shaped- and it could- Deano still served us well and he should be respected for that. As for blazing teh ball over an empty net in extra time v Villa..well that's another matter.
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Jul 19, 2017 15:13:54 GMT
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 19, 2017 15:13:54 GMT
Well Andy I think your fears have been met, yet again
"For those old enough to remember Dads Army, Ken Anderson reminds me of Private Walker. There is always something going on in the background with him but, having said that, he managed to run the club in a way that got us promoted so well done. I just hope there is not anything simmering underneath that will come up and bite us"
Another HMRC winding up petition today!!!
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Jul 20, 2017 22:38:16 GMT
Post by whitesince63 on Jul 20, 2017 22:38:16 GMT
Still here also and like all of the above, concerned about the financial situation. That said, it doesn't seem to have stopped Parky from signing some decent quality players. Again like others, the Ameobi signing pleased me no end as I never thought it would happen. I can well understand the one year bit for both sides so if he does we'll and we get a new investor it can easily be extended if it suits both parties. Pleased also with the Armstrong loan just a bit disappointed it's only until January. I think it will be a struggle for us next year but I do have confidence we'll be ok. Anyway, glad to see all the familiar names are still here and look forward to some intelligent and thoughtful posts again like we had last year.
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Jul 22, 2017 11:13:25 GMT
Post by greydad on Jul 22, 2017 11:13:25 GMT
An early morning walk over the West Pennine Moors saw me looking toward the Stadium from near the TV mast...It led me to realise that it was 20 years ago that I had excitedly climbed the stairwell(s) to the North Stand Upper to find my new seat and take in for the first time the magnificent view it offered. I remain of the opinion, subjective or not, that the stadium is as architecturally pleasing as any in the country, and I remind myself of that when the 7 or 8 layers I wear between the ashes of autumn and the awakening of spring fail to keep the cold at bay. The Macron Stadium may never usurp 'The Reebok' in the hearts and minds of supporters, but, as most football fans learn very quickly, every silver lining can quickly become clouded by all manner of trials and tribulations and fortunes change accordingly....the leadership on and off the pitch last season eventually allowed the silver lining to shine through, and players have been jettisoned and acquired to a largely satisfying degree given current circumstances. My sympathies are with Andy L and others who travel from distance re: the Leeds game, it's a Sunday stroll (literally) for many of us and back home for supper, but T.V. money remains a both a blessing and a curse. I attended a fair number of away games last season, but am taking a sabbatical for the coming term , hopefully enjoying radio commentary and the Moors in equal measure..I came back from too many trips wondering why some fans feel the need to be so abusive and foul-mouthed to the opposition, and at the same time inconsiderate to fellow fans. Stewards often seem unable or unwilling to sort out problems created by the large numbers they are confronted with, it's certainly not a job I would choose to do.....anyway, enough negativity, perhaps I'm simply becoming too sensitive and precious in my old age. Here's to a satisfying season and an eventual end to the financial problems, roll on the Glorious 6th!
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Jul 27, 2017 6:36:15 GMT
Post by Pedro on Jul 27, 2017 6:36:15 GMT
An early morning walk over the West Pennine Moors saw me looking toward the Stadium from near the TV mast...It led me to realise that it was 20 years ago that I had excitedly climbed the stairwell(s) to the North Stand Upper to find my new seat and take in for the first time the magnificent view it offered. I remain of the opinion, subjective or not, that the stadium is as architecturally pleasing as any in the country, and I remind myself of that when the 7 or 8 layers I wear between the ashes of autumn and the awakening of spring fail to keep the cold at bay. The Macron Stadium may never usurp 'The Reebok' in the hearts and minds of supporters, but, as most football fans learn very quickly, every silver lining can quickly become clouded by all manner of trials and tribulations and fortunes change accordingly....the leadership on and off the pitch last season eventually allowed the silver lining to shine through, and players have been jettisoned and acquired to a largely satisfying degree given current circumstances. My sympathies are with Andy L and others who travel from distance re: the Leeds game, it's a Sunday stroll (literally) for many of us and back home for supper, but T.V. money remains a both a blessing and a curse. I attended a fair number of away games last season, but am taking a sabbatical for the coming term , hopefully enjoying radio commentary and the Moors in equal measure..I came back from too many trips wondering why some fans feel the need to be so abusive and foul-mouthed to the opposition, and at the same time inconsiderate to fellow fans. Stewards often seem unable or unwilling to sort out problems created by the large numbers they are confronted with, it's certainly not a job I would choose to do.....anyway, enough negativity, perhaps I'm simply becoming too sensitive and precious in my old age. Here's to a satisfying season and an eventual end to the financial problems, roll on the Glorious 6th! Ha Greydad - Your post reminded me of two things. My dear old Mum hated the Reebok architecture and whenever we were returning to Horwich and the Reebok came into view she used to say "Isn't it finished yet?" Your second point about going to away games rings very true - Andy has also mentioned it. I have also decided to give away games a miss for the same reasons. I have written to the FSF and BWFC about having special areas at away grounds for people who do NOT wish to stand for 90 minutes. Unsurprisingly nothing heard from the Club but a good reply from the FSF who have already been looking into it. The thought of travelling all that way and then finding oneself in the middle of a group of those screaming scroats just puts me off completely.
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Jul 27, 2017 11:23:22 GMT
Post by greydad on Jul 27, 2017 11:23:22 GMT
Enjoyed the comment about the architecture Pedro, I think my Mum would have been in accord! As regards travelling away I might be as out of touch with things as my son suggests, but I think I'd rather remain out of touch and enjoy the calm and splendour of the Countryside in the company of Jack Dearden or Tower FM...not sure my wife has much faith in my resolution, but we'll see!
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