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Post by davidm on Mar 3, 2017 18:37:42 GMT
Another game that falls into the “must win” category.
After tomorrow, we have 4 home and 8 away games left so if we are to get automatic promotion, maximum home points are essential.
Presumably there will be no Spearing tomorrow plus Long is suspended. Amazingly, Vela is still 1 booking away from suspension as we all knew that the Checkatrade whatever its called counted for nothing. Beevers and Vela need to behave for 2 more matches to escape suspension.
As to the team, who starts in goal – I think it must be Alnwick.
Same back four but who in midfield and attack? Maybe he will revert back to a back 3 and flood the midfield. I just don’t know.
Madine will more than likely be back, which together with Le Fondre, will push Vela out of the no 10 role and back into deeper midfield.
It will be hard tomorrow but, as I understand it, Wimbledon play the most similar to us in this league so hopefully no slick passing from them to cut our midfield apart.
I expect a win else we are looking at the play-offs or even worse.
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Post by OohMac on Mar 3, 2017 21:57:36 GMT
I know im negative most of the time but I really think we'll lose this one. I rarely predict us to lose at home but that's how bad I feel about this one. The sounds off the manager, the past performances, the lack of Spearing and the striker doubt.
1-3 and Wimbeldon definitely on my coupon. Should get good odds too.
Wonder what colours Mr Holdsworth will be wearing?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 3, 2017 22:36:06 GMT
We won't get promoted directly by the end of this season, no way and I'm fairly certain we'll struggle in the play-offs if we make them. For me, it's games like this v Wimbledon that are the reasons why I'm making that claim. Games like this and Rochdale and Swindon and Charlton all winnable games where we fail miserably and it's fair to say that it's been an uninspiring league campaign too. When Wigan went back into the Championship last season, they romped League One with entertaining football, I can't remember the last time I saw or listened to Bolton entertaining the fans with a winning brand and that can only be down to its leader. I won't go 1-3 as I still believe there's a decent defence somewhere on that pitch but unless we get a penalty or a Josh Vela stunner I'm going for 0-2 😕
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Post by greydad on Mar 4, 2017 11:26:02 GMT
Today will be a tester for P.P.....Wimbledon beat S****horpe away a few days ago, and will be full of confidence, particularly if they have watched video footage of the Bristol Rovers game. Alnwick must surely be restored in goal, Wabara (hopefully a bit more up to speed) Wheater , Beevers and Taylor will probably start as a back four. A back three would be very risky given the problems in midfield...If Thorpe is fit it might be feasible to deploy he, Derik, Trotter/Perry, Vela and Morais in a 5, with Madine up front... Vela and could operate in the '10' role. A return to the early season attritional performances might not be aesthetically pleasing, but might just prove effective in getting the result required. It would be great to see ALF come on and make a real impact, one goal might just open if not the floodgates, then at least a decent trickle of goals between now and the end of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 14:55:33 GMT
Would love to win but I don't know if the players want to win as someone commented on the Bolton evening news some of the players are out of contract at the end of the season do they care who knows. 1-1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 15:00:43 GMT
Just seen the lineup dervite back for fxck sake have we not got anyone better there must be someone in the crowd who could do a better job 🙁
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 4, 2017 15:19:43 GMT
Early goal alert!!!!!! Beware of 88th minute equalisers 😬😬
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 4, 2017 15:44:24 GMT
Clearly I meant 39th minute😞
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 15:54:07 GMT
Fxck sake what has happened to our defence we just can't keep a clean sheet anymore. Just a question why do we score then sit back how fxcking shxt is that.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 4, 2017 16:10:59 GMT
Fxck sake what has happened to our defence we just can't keep a clean sheet anymore. Just a question why do we score then sit back how fxcking shxt is that. Like I say above chip Early goal alert!!!!! It's the worst thing we do scoring first
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 4, 2017 16:21:09 GMT
Zac scores Eventually Well done Zac
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2017 17:00:04 GMT
1-1 forget automatic promotion this manager is fxcking waxk I see Zach has scored 2 for Forest how stupid are we selling him for peanuts. 😢😢💩💩💩💩
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Post by andyl on Mar 4, 2017 17:15:16 GMT
We battled well enough today but there was a complete absence of skill alas in midfield. We had a bad thirty minutes after again taking the lead with an excellent Madine header. It was to be the last good thing he did but it was good. They equalised with a similar header. An uncontested cross, Dervite out jumped and Alnwick late on it or so it seemed
Their keeper made three very good saves. One point blank from Wheater who should have scored and a brilliant one from a Morais free kick Morais missed a sitter later after a good move. The game petered out. Plus points. Le Fondre looks fitter and did well. Neither Vela nor Beevers was booked. The defence was compact. If Dervite reminded us several times of his weaknesses he got away with it Minus just not good enough Alnwick 5 Dervite 4 Wheater 6 Beevers 6 Taylor 3 Derik 5 Thorpe 4 Vela 6 Morais 6 Madine 5 Le Fondre 7 Henry4
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Post by greydad on Mar 4, 2017 18:38:05 GMT
Better than Tuesday, another really well taken goal, 2 glaring chances missed, and, apart from the poor marking for the Wimbledon goal, more solid in defence. Sadly, as has become a recurring theme, there remains an almost complete lack of creativity in midfield. It must be said that the availability of players is severely stretched , but I find it strange that Perry has been sub when Spearing and Trotter have been available, yet was not on the bench today..whether he would have added anything to midfield remains to be seen but I felt that we needed another body there today, even if it would have been at the expense of a forward. The signing of Karacan should help re: midfield, but it will continue to be a struggle to achieve results without someone to carry and use the ball creatively.What a shame that Lefondre wasn't the player on the spot for the 2 missed chances, but the team deserved at least a draw today, and in the context of present form and circumstances a similar result next week will be an achievement of some note... I just wish I'd been able to get a ticket!. As Andy L suggests, just not good enough today when and where it mattered.
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Post by davidm on Mar 4, 2017 18:48:28 GMT
Totally depressing.
Again.
Yet again, we start reasonablyed well. We passed it on the floor for a decent first 15 minutes then, as always, we just stop playing and stand off the opposition.
The number of teams who have come to the Macron this season and completely out-passed us is ridiculous. Sometimes our collapse starts early as against Bristol – other times it is the second half like Coventry, Shrewsbury, S****horpe – today it was 15 minutes.
We played the ball about on the ground early on and Wheater should have scored from 5 yards out but the goalie saved well somehow. Madine then scored with an excellent header from a corner and hope was high. Slowly but surely though Wimbledon just out-passed us. We just could not get or keep possession and they just ran rings around us. The equaliser though was dreadful. Wimbledon had a throw in that no one marked at. They took a simple throw to a completely unmarked man who lobbed a decent centre to the far post where Dervite was outjumped and Alnwick stood rooted as it went in. I need to see it again but Alnwick appear so slow going down to the header and, of course, Dervite was hopeless on the centre. Likewise Thorpe needed rollicking for allow the centre to be made.
From then until half time we were dreadful and Wimbledon could easily have scored again.
Second half, we pressed but played little quality football. Half chances came. Madine shot wildly over from 25 yards. Thorpe shot wide from the edge of the box, Vela shot wide from the edge of the box. Morais put in a lovely free kick which the goalie fingered onto the bar. But then he missed a sitter after Le Fondre and Madine teed him up 15 yards out. Somehow he shot over.
We had these chances but it wasn’t any form of dominance from us. Wimbledon continually held the ball better than us and then missed a sitter themselves when Alnwick saved a poor header.
Another 2 points lost. If we had won these 2 home games this week, we would be second in the league. As it is, automatic promotion looks way beyond us (unlike we pull off something miraculous at Fleetwood) and I am deeply worried about the teams just behind us who are rapidly catching up on us.
Alnwick - 4 I think he could have done better on the goal. Some awful distribution with endless hoofs going straight to the opposition keeper.
Dervite - 4 Too easily beaten for the goal. Some dreadful big boot passing in second half.
Wheater - 6 Never comfortable against tall mobile forwards.
Beevers - 6 Struggled again on the left of a back 3.
Taylor - 5 Some really panicky passing today.
Derik - 4 For those who advocate him in midfield, his passing and marking was really poor.
Morais - 6 Unlucky with free kick. Missed a sitter. Too many dead ball deliveries were poor.
Thorpe - 3 Awful. Our central midfield was totally outthought for the umpteeth game on the run. He just stands off.
Vela - 6 Not quite in the no 10 role but busy. The midfield though is such a weak link as we are overrun in every match.
Le Fondre - 6 A better game from him but the service he receives is dreadful.
Madine - 6 Excellent headed goal but he could have gone home then. He needs to look at the Wimbledon striker Elliott who held the ball up excellently and also scored.
Henry - 3 Contributed nothing. He was much too deep.
Manager - 3 I couldn’t fathom out our tactics today. We played 3 at the back with 5 in midfield but we were still totally overrun.
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