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Post by Pedro on Nov 8, 2016 21:05:08 GMT
Struggling against another League 2 side (16th, Grimsby are 8th) - unbelievable. Penalties would be very interesting to see whether our players will be able to shoot on target from the spot with no opposition players moving! Nobody else listening? There is some fan listening on Wanderers Player in Mexico!  |
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Post by Pedro on Nov 8, 2016 21:20:56 GMT
Ameobi,Clayton and Clough just come on for Anderson, James Henry and Chris Taylor. Too late  |
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Post by davidm on Nov 8, 2016 21:38:02 GMT
How poor was that.
Hardly an attempt on goal. Just feeble.
There is still an issue within this team in that they don't seem to be able to get themselves going against so-called poorer opposition.
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Post by davidm on Nov 8, 2016 21:39:39 GMT
We also had 300+ fans out of a crowd of just 1,000.
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Post by davidm on Nov 8, 2016 21:47:19 GMT
I see that Liam Feeney scored for Blackburn U21s in a 2-2 draw and then missed the final penalty in the shoot out so Blackburn lost.
And Neil Danns missed in the pen shoot-out for Bury.
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 8, 2016 22:05:44 GMT
Not to sound like it's excusing another pathetic performance but I can't say I'm at all disappointed that we're out of this ridiculous competition. With our overly regular injury record I'd rather all efforts were geared towards getting promoted because the longer we stay in here the worse things will get. Please don't anybody tell me we missed Madine because he would have added nothing.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Nov 8, 2016 22:24:39 GMT
Not to sound like it's excusing another pathetic performance but I can't say I'm at all disappointed that we're out of this ridiculous competition. With our overly regular injury record I'd rather all efforts were geared towards getting promoted because the longer we stay in here the worse things will get. Please don't anybody tell me we missed Madine because he would have added nothing. Completely agree W63, to be honest, I didn't even know we had a game tonight!! Having said that, there was enough and I use the term loosely 'quality' in our side to have at the very least got a draw.. |
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Post by greydad on Nov 8, 2016 22:30:09 GMT
A shame for the travelling fans, and almost another clean sheet...I agree with Whites about the competition, had it not been messed around with I would have had more enthusiasm, but hopefully there will be a welcome Wembley final for 2 deserving teams from EFL 1 and 2, and not an U-21 team in sight. As for the Wanderers let's hope that Sunday's visit to Peterborough will see a return to something approaching the standards achieved during the first 45 minutes of the Port Vale game.
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Post by Phil from Smithills on Nov 9, 2016 11:01:26 GMT
Regardless of the status of the game, under big Sam if he played mainly reserve players, he ensured they put in a good performance and usually won.
Listening to Tower FM., whilst the commentator was trying to up-play the standard of play, he could not hide the fact that it was a very poor performance.
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Post by davidm on Nov 9, 2016 12:38:12 GMT
Regardless of the status of the game, under big Sam if he played mainly reserve players, he ensured they put in a good performance and usually won. Listening to Tower FM., whilst the commentator was trying to up-play the standard of play, he could not hide the fact that it was a very poor performance.
I am not into this "glad to be out of this competition - concentrate on the league" argument. If you can guarantee promotion then fine but you cannot.
It is a game where the players are representing Bolton Wanderers and should be up for it.
Your Big Sam comment is true. I went to Watford, Ipswich and Doncaster in the FA Cup where he fielded mainly reserve players against teams from a lower league and we won all 3 games easily.
We seem to have a degree of complacency in our squad. We have played Blackpool (twice), Grimsby and Cheltenham. Four unconvincing displays - 2 wins (uninspiring wins) and 2 defeats. It's as though we cannot lift ourselves. |
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 9, 2016 13:58:13 GMT
Regardless of the status of the game, under big Sam if he played mainly reserve players, he ensured they put in a good performance and usually won. Listening to Tower FM., whilst the commentator was trying to up-play the standard of play, he could not hide the fact that it was a very poor performance.
I am not into this "glad to be out of this competition - concentrate on the league" argument. If you can guarantee promotion then fine but you cannot.
It is a game where the players are representing Bolton Wanderers and should be up for it.
Your Big Sam comment is true. I went to Watford, Ipswich and Doncaster in the FA Cup where he fielded mainly reserve players against teams from a lower league and we won all 3 games easily.
We seem to have a degree of complacency in our squad. We have played Blackpool (twice), Grimsby and Cheltenham. Four unconvincing displays - 2 wins (uninspiring wins) and 2 defeats. It's as though we cannot lift ourselves.I don't entirely disagree about playing in all competitions David or your comments about Big Sam's teams but I think we have to accept that we were then a PL team with a good squad and reserve players who could step in and perform. At the moment we're a tier 3 team and struggling to even field a first eleven of quality players. We also don't have Big Sam and however much I appreciate PP he's not a patch on Allardyce. I also don't see Parky's style of play at all attractive and based around a good big man up front, which we don't really have. We've all seen from matches and TV that most other teams play more football than we do. Certainly the better teams attack in numbers and score goals from pass and move and getting into the box. We do little of that with only the first half of Port Vale in that category. Is it a coincidence that we scored 3 goals and could have had more? So that said, I think we need to keep what good players we do have fit for the league games so again I think competitions like this we can do without for now at least. |
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Post by Pedro on Nov 9, 2016 14:40:11 GMT
Just found out that Cheltenham were in the Conference last season so we were in effect struggling and beaten by a Conference side - pathetic  Just watched the long highlights and we had a couple of really good moves that actually looked like real football. We seem to have so few of these good moves in every game. BUT, yet again so many shots looked way worse than schoolboy errors. |
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Post by OohMac on Nov 10, 2016 8:30:58 GMT
The disappointment for me is not exiting the tournament or even losing the match but the players who have been given an opportunity that they may not have got with a league match and have done absolutely nothing.
Money's lost his place he should be determined to get that back. Buxton now is down the pecking order after some solid Wilson performances. Trotter ok he scored the crucial goal on Saturday but with Vela, Spearing, Osede and Pratley and Thorpe maybe back he needs to be dominating games and showing he can play that role even when we have a full squad to choose from.
But nothing disappoints me more than the big lump of Proctor up front. I have not seen anything from him that makes me think he deserves a place in the squad. He's a timid battering ram. He belongs in a division a lot lower than we are. He's a pub player. He's probably PPs eyes and ears in the training ground. Talentless waste. managers we had seem to want to bring their own choice of player Coyle with the grossly overpaid Burnley crew, Dougie and his Palace pals, You can't make Bolton better by bringing in the worst Bradford players.
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 10, 2016 21:01:00 GMT
Agree with all of that OM, any fringe player getting a chance should be busting a gut to show what they can do, especially against a considerably inferior team to start with. I wasn't at the game but from what I've gleaned we were again awful and lack lustre. You would have perhaps thought Trotter in particular would have excelled after his superb performance against Port Vale. Obviously that was a one off. Proctor I agree is willing but not up to it just like Madine and Anderson. At the end of the day none of them indicated they were good enough to be relied on so hopefully we'll not get too many injuries this season and we can keep a settled first team.
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Just watched the long highlights and we had a couple of really good moves that actually looked like real football. We seem to have so few of these good moves in every game. BUT, yet again so many shots looked way worse than schoolboy errors.