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Post by thegrud1 on Oct 28, 2016 19:55:36 GMT
If we keep the same team cant see anything but a win....thats put a curse on it ! lol
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Post by OohMac on Oct 29, 2016 7:14:35 GMT
I suppose it says more about me than anything else, but if if see another club are 5 on the spin without conceding I'd think they were finding thier feet and going from strength to strength. The pessimist in me looks at Bolton and thinks "law of averages means we're due a bad one". I suppose because the games have been so tight, often a set piece splitting it we just don't seem to have that confidence(or at least I don't) that this is a club well prepared to keep a winning streak going.
Therefore I'm a bit fearful today but we almost have the spine in place. Keeper looks settled. Wheats and Beavers have been immense, Osede protected well, vela and Spearing are putting gritty performances in. It's a question of whether the flair players around them turn up. Ameobi and Clough have good games and I think we will win the majority of games.
I'll go 1-1 today.
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Post by greydad on Oct 29, 2016 7:28:26 GMT
Unless there are fitness issues I see no reason to change the team, and certainly not the system...another clean sheet and win will be most welcome, even more so if the team can continue to create chances but also improve their conversion rate. Having said that, I feel tempted to echo the sentiments behind the Bette Davis line in the classic movie Now Voyager, "...don't let's ask for the Moon, we have the stars...".More of the same will do for now!
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 29, 2016 8:37:16 GMT
Lots of pessimism this morning, I suppose peeps thinking our run can't continue. However, I think against Bury we finally looked like a team and hopefully we'll continue to just get better so I'm confident we'll get a win today. I think we'll defend again so I'll go for another 2-0 with Zach to score one of them. I just don't think the level in this league is at all good so there's no reason why we shouldn't keep winning, despite our handicap (Madine) that is!!!
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Post by OohMac on Oct 29, 2016 8:59:58 GMT
Sorry for setting the negative tone. Think I would be much more confident of both goals were scored from open play.
But if we get Ameobi in the game then I'd say we should win comfortably. Just can't guarantee it.
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 29, 2016 9:30:46 GMT
I know what you mean OM, it's hard to feel confident when our wins come mainly from set pieces, mistakes and own goals but the key thing is they are coming and we do seem to be creating chances which surely we must start converting some time. My main concern would be Parky's habit of shutting up shop when we get ahead rather than going for big wins. Having said that, he may be just as aware as us of the team's inability to score so it's prudent to do that at the moment. I think what can't be argued is that we are improving and the guys all seem to be working much harder from front to back. I'd be very disappointed to come away from the game today without another 3 points and I don't think I will. Whites 2-0 today 😉
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 29, 2016 14:19:11 GMT
WOW 2-0 up after 11 mins Can we do 5-0 please😊 COYWM
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 29, 2016 15:34:45 GMT
We haven't scored since the 16th minute Parkinson out😜 Thought we might have been dishing out a hammering after going 3 nil up in 16 mins
Tut Some folk are so hard to please🙄
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Post by andyl on Oct 29, 2016 17:43:30 GMT
What a splendid first half.We saw exciting attacking, three magnificent goals, crisp and positive passing. When was the last time we saw such a rampant display.
We had lost Spearing at the last minute but we gained Trotter's passing and control which alongside the class of Derik prompted the speed of Ameobi, the flair of Clough and. the energy of Vela.And what they didn't assist a quite imperious Madine did. His hold up play in the first half was superb and he almost engineered himself a very good goal.
Clough's was a delight.A rapier like ground pass from Derik found Clough who turned,advanced and scored a goal of breathtaking simplicity. No sooner had we rejoiced in that when Vela fired in a left foot screamer after Ameobi had forced a save for the second time after cutting in past a bambooxled defender. And if that wasn't enough Wilson smashed a shot home via a deflection-a repeat of the wonder goal he offered last year. Terrific. Wilson went on to provide more good crosses,one in particular flashing across the box
.The second half. Saw several chances. Madine blotted his copybook by missing three headers , two sitters and three challenging but scorable conversions from crosses. He had his best game yet still underlined his striking deficiencies. Clough faded a bit but still over cooked two chances.
Bolton being Bolton we let them into it and a good save by Howard only staved off a goal for a short while when a corner passed him by and was converted at the second attempt.
Subs Taylor and Henry did pretty well whilst Derik and Trotter faded a bit and our colossal centre halves stood firm. A really good win
Howard 7 Wilson 8 Wheater 7 Beevers 7 Taylor A 7 Derik 9 Trotter 7 Clough 7 Ameobi 8 Madine 7 Vela 7 (-1. For a silly booking which neutered him somewhat)
I thought Derik in the first half was outstanding. His passing was brilliant. Real Madrid at the Macron
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 29, 2016 18:34:12 GMT
What a splendid first half.We saw exciting attacking, three magnificent goals, crisp and positive passing. When was the last time we saw such a rampant display. We had lost Spearing at the last minute but we gained Trotter's passing and control which alongside the class of Derik prompted the speed of Ameobi, the flair of Clough and. the energy of Vela.And what they didn't assist a quite imperious Madine did. His hold up play in the first half was superb and he almost engineered himself a very good goal. Clough's was a delight.A rapier like ground pass from Derik found Clough who turned,advanced and scored a goal of breathtaking simplicity. No sooner had we rejoiced in that when Vela fired in a left foot screamer after Ameobi had forced a save for the second time after cutting in past a bambooxled defender. And if that wasn't enough Wilson smashed a shot home via a deflection-a repeat of the wonder goal he offered last year. Terrific. Wilson went on to provide more good crosses,one in particular flashing across the box .The second half. Saw several chances. Madine blotted his copybook by missing three headers , two sitters and three challenging but scorable conversions from crosses. He had his best game yet still underlined his striking deficiencies. Clough faded a bit but still over cooked two chances. Bolton being Bolton we let them into it and a good save by Howard only staved off a goal for a short while when a corner passed him by and was converted at the second attempt. Subs Taylor and Henry did pretty well whilst Derik and Trotter faded a bit and our colossal centre halves stood firm. A really good win Howard 7 Wilson 8 Wheater 7 Beevers 7 Taylor A 7 Derik 9 Trotter 7 Clough 7 Ameobi 8 Madine 7 Vela 7 (-1. For a silly booking which neutered him somewhat) I thought Derik in the first half was outstanding. His passing was brilliant. Real Madrid at the Macron Have to agree with all of that Andy, without doubt the best and most complete performance for years. Just a shame Madine was unable to convert any of the numerous chances he had despite an otherwise excellent performance. Surely one day something must go in for him but it does rather show again his lack of ability to score goals. I also agree Derik was impeccable today and so much came through him. Vela was industrious and the defence once again terrific apart from the mistake for their goal. I know it's the end of the no goals against run but to be honest I think that will help remove any pressure going forward. Zach disappointed me after his goal, I wonder if it had anything to do with the clattering tackle he took near the touch line? On the plus side though, Ameobi was almost unplayable at times and Trotter despite his detractors oozed the class we all know he does have inside him. If only he could produce that regularly. Somewhat disappointing second half but overall a very impressive performance from the boys and no need to be frightened of anyone in this league home or away.
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Post by thegrud1 on Oct 29, 2016 19:08:08 GMT
Really enjoyed the 1st half today,not just the goals but the way we played. We have a solid team now and with clough/ameobi and vela we have players to unlock defences. Probably the best 1st half of football for 12 mth, I personally dont like Madine (I,d probably give him M.O.M.)but the past 2 games he has been excellent,dont think he is a ever gonna be a goalscorer tho. Was a bit concerned that Spearing wasnt starting but trotter put in a good performance for a change.
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Post by Trotter on Oct 29, 2016 19:24:10 GMT
Thanks for the reports guys it all oozes positive thoughts of promotion or am I being promiscuous #automatic promotion?
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Post by greydad on Oct 29, 2016 20:51:46 GMT
A first half to savour, the like of which we haven't seen for so long....a 4 or 5 goal margin after 45 mins would have been in no way flattering to the Wanderers. As happens so often in such games the second half was a bit of an anti-climax, but there were still plenty of sweeping moves that deserved a better end product. Who knows whether or not last season would have turned out differently had Derik been played in his current role, it seemed obvious to so many that his talents were seriously under-used by management. Good to see Trotter getting praise, and deservedly so..he's no Spearing in terms of energy and mobility but he played a vital role today, particularly in the first half, and his mazy run in the second was outstanding. His performance however, was but one in an excellent all round team performance that deserved a wider margin of victory...Listening to Radio Manchester post-match it was an eye-opener to realise that the team has secured one point more already than in the whole of last season...an extra hour in bed too, what a good weekend!!
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 30, 2016 8:25:38 GMT
Thanks for the reports guys it all oozes positive thoughts of promotion or am I being promiscuous #automatic promotion? Not at all presumptious, I don't think we need fear anyone in this division. The team is getting better all the time and if we can just get an end product to all the good work we are doing then automatic promotion is well within our grasp. Sadly I don't think Madine will ever give us that and must be replaced in January. Much as I dislike the man, I was desperately wishing he'd put one of his chances away yesterday and I almost felt sorry for him until I reminded myself what sitters 2 or 3 of them were and how pathetic he really is. No question he worked hard, yesterday was probably the best I've seen from him but Vale were so woeful, if he can't score against yesterday's defence then he never will. Still, the defenders and midfielders made up for him and to me that's a big positive because successful teams have scorers all over the pitch.
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Post by OohMac on Oct 30, 2016 10:21:16 GMT
Watching goal rush a couple of things stood out for me on this division. S****horpe look the real deal, they will be real contenders. Seems they have a top drawer striker. Which brings me onto the next point. Some of the teams around us who have strikers already in double figures. Whilst this Clough run is impressive were never going to get that from "Goal Machine".
A proper striker will be the difference between going up or not. Proctor is not the answer either. I can't think of anyone who is available, within budget and could do it for us but then I'm not chief scout.
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