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Post by joanna on Oct 25, 2016 14:24:18 GMT
Were the pens awarded against Bury correct decisions? Did he make the most of the contact or not?
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Post by Phil from Smithills on Oct 25, 2016 15:46:46 GMT
If these two challenges were at Old Trafford, they would be definite penalties.
That's the way the game has become with players feeling any contact, and they fall down, as I haven't seen the first penalty claim, the second was justified, Clough was physically pushed over....fouled.....penalty.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 15:51:26 GMT
If these two challenges were at Old Trafford, they would be definite penalties. That's the way the game has become with players feeling any contact, and they fall down, as I haven't seen the first penalty claim, the second was justified, Clough was physically pushed over....fouled.....penalty. same as first Phil, in fact the ref moved over to the left as soon as the break started and had a very good view ,I do agree players are falling over at the smallest touch and some so called defenders are turning their backs on shots ( suppose they don't want their makeup damaged ). |
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Post by OohMac on Oct 25, 2016 16:04:09 GMT
For me the first was a definite dive, he knows Maher is there he's going nowhere and he throws his legs looking for contact. The refs in a good position but Mahers movement deceives him so I don't blame him for giving it but my first thought was booking for Clough.
Second one I think was a stonewaller, he was the wrong side of Clough coming from a bad position and getting illegally in Cloughs path. You may argue that Clough should have the strength to stay on his feet but why should he?
So jury's out. He got a similar penalty against Liverpool a few seasons back. I suppose you might argue that him being in those positions ahead of the defender is a skill in itself and that Clough has won a decision. I'd be furious if they went against us but they have in the past. baptiste averaged 1 a game and he wasn't malicious.
You can guarantee that any ref watching that on Sky will have their own views on Zack and don't be surprised if that's the last decision he gets.
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Post by thegrud1 on Oct 25, 2016 16:04:59 GMT
A couple of years ago our players were criticised for being to honest and staying on their feet when fouled...NOW WE ARE STREETWISE !!!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 25, 2016 17:24:33 GMT
Not a diver jo, just extremely lightweight
He'd fall over in a gust of wind, but still a very talented lad
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Post by joanna on Oct 25, 2016 18:42:57 GMT
Have to say I didn't see any semblance of an actual dive. For the second one, he was manhandled by a desperate defender.
The first was more a clash of legs, but replays showed that he was clearly blameless: his speed took him over as a result of the defender clipping him. I agree with you about his light frame, rfr.
I think the ref was quite right each time.
We've been on the receiving end of very poor decisions this seasons. It's good that we had a ref who was not a "homer" and who was prepared to apply the laws strictly.
I wish the refs had continued to be as strict with pushing, pulling and blocking off from corners etc as they were at the start of the season.
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