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Post by andyl on Sept 30, 2016 9:47:32 GMT
I will be abroad so will look forward to post match comments. My only prediction for now is that betting companies will start taking goal bets on a monthly rather than game by game basis!
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Post by davidm on Sept 30, 2016 13:40:18 GMT
Hi Andy – hope you have a good holiday.
With regard to the match, a few things need sorting.
1. Defensively - get Beevers back in
2. Midfield - restore Vela, replace C.Taylor. Develop some form of passing structure through midfield. Stop this aimless hoofball tactics which effectively forces Spearing, Vela and to some extent Trotter to nothing other than additional defenders because they contribute little to the attacking part of the game.
3. Attack – if Madine is unfit, make Proctor stay in the middle. He spent more than half his time out on the left on Tuesday trying to retrieve aimless punts. Start with Clough in the starting line-up. We desperately need some flair and if he is fit enough for the bench, then he should be fit enough to start. We also must get players in the box. On Tuesday everyone was deep except Proctor who was out on the left. The time we got men in the box led to Henry’s terrible miss but at least it created something.
Really, my comments just mean PLEASE STOP THE HOOFBALL AND PLAY SOME GENUINE ON THE FLOOR ATTACKING FOOTBALL.
My team:-
Howard Buxton (or Wilson) Wheater Beevers Moxey Spearing Henry Vela Anderson Proctor Clough
I very much agree with earlier comments from Whitesince63 in that our squad is good enough, if used correctly, to win this league but not with hoofball football.
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Post by andyl on Sept 30, 2016 14:04:02 GMT
I'd like to hear that Alnwick has played. We need him to be better than Howard and able to pass the ball
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Post by andyl on Sept 30, 2016 16:18:47 GMT
But yes,Davidm all of that is eminently sensible..and thanks for the thought. I will be looking out for result
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 30, 2016 21:14:58 GMT
Hi Andy – hope you have a good holiday.
With regard to the match, a few things need sorting.
1. Defensively - get Beevers back in
2. Midfield - restore Vela, replace C.Taylor. Develop some form of passing structure through midfield. Stop this aimless hoofball tactics which effectively forces Spearing, Vela and to some extent Trotter to nothing other than additional defenders because they contribute little to the attacking part of the game.
3. Attack – if Madine is unfit, make Proctor stay in the middle. He spent more than half his time out on the left on Tuesday trying to retrieve aimless punts. Start with Clough in the starting line-up. We desperately need some flair and if he is fit enough for the bench, then he should be fit enough to start. We also must get players in the box. On Tuesday everyone was deep except Proctor who was out on the left. The time we got men in the box led to Henry’s terrible miss but at least it created something.
Really, my comments just mean PLEASE STOP THE HOOFBALL AND PLAY SOME GENUINE ON THE FLOOR ATTACKING FOOTBALL.
My team:-
Howard Buxton (or Wilson) Wheater Beevers Moxey Spearing Henry Vela Anderson Proctor Clough
I very much agree with earlier comments from Whitesince63 in that our squad is good enough, if used correctly, to win this league but not with hoofball football. Agree with every bit of that David but I'm not sure Parky will? I hope he does and it's not more of the same, it's a bloo-y long drive home when we've played like that and I find it so unnecessary with the squad we have. Surely we must win tomorrow, we can't keep being so bad? Whatever, at least you'll be spared it AndyL, have a good holiday and I hope the result enhances it 😄
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 30, 2016 21:30:46 GMT
We STILL can't score but then I don't think Oxford can either A drab 0-0
I'd like to say I hope we can win and dedicate it to Ivan Klasnic but after the Rochdale game PP's team selection policies and strategic planning for the team are seriously woeful, I'm struggling to believe we'all win again.
Prove me wrong!!! Have a great break AndyL
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Post by andyl on Oct 1, 2016 7:47:00 GMT
Yes,thanks rftr and ws63. Should I reciprocate with some such as 'Have a great day watching BWFC v Oxford. ' Maybe by my absence I can conjure up an entertaining 6-0 from afar!!
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Post by greydad on Oct 1, 2016 8:00:37 GMT
The reports suggest that Beevers and Madine might feature today, if so will they be fit to start as both are badly needed...like many others, who would have thought that sentiment would refer to Madine? It looks as though as though Buxton won't be involved, Wilson is the likely option but my personal feeling is that Vela is a better full back and could link well with Henry, but we do need him in midfield. I wish we had a good left sided midfielder, Moxey gets stranded upfield too often but is our only genuine outlet on the left. I wonder if P.P. will go back to the formation that served him well earlier in the season, with Madine and Procter up front, therefore perpetuating the long ball tactic? I would like to see Clough start in a set-up that plays to his strengths, and would go along with David M's suggested line-up other than Anderson...I would use Derik as the holding midfielder, which would help give protection at the back when Moxey pushes forward...3 up front might just weaken our midfield too much. Ideally this would be my starting line-up... Howard Wilson Wheater Beevers Moxey Derik Henry Spearing Vela Madine Clough
There would be plenty of attacking potential from the bench to go to 3 up front if necessary. I hope that there will be something positive today whatever the manager decides..Andy, hope you and Jo are enjoying France, it might be a lonely vigil up in the North Upper today!
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Post by Pedro on Oct 1, 2016 10:30:16 GMT
How many hours did they practice kicking the ball straight on target? This has been a problem for years? What could/can be done? Make Spearing centre forward? He is the only player who has a clue, other than Samizadeh who PP refuses to give a chance to. My question to PP is what do you/we have to lose by giving Samizadeh 15 or 20 minutes at the end of a game. He possibly could have won/drawn some of the previous games for us. I expect loud disenchantment today if nothing is changed and hoofball remains plan a,b & c.
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Post by westandlower on Oct 1, 2016 12:43:13 GMT
If you watched the shooting practice just before kick off you would not be surprised that we don't hit the age often enough. With only the goalie to beat we only scored in the ratio 1 goal from 3 attempts last time. The players need to take it more seriously.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 1, 2016 15:45:34 GMT
WOW 1-0 down Anderson has to axe Parkinson, he's clueless. I'd like to think that there's enough in our side to at least avoid defeat but there isn't. Poor free signings and poor tactics. That said, these lads should be able to take to the field and at least score without any guidance. Didn't think we could get worse than Coyle Freedman and Lennon but there you go, what do I know!! Pi55 POOR Parkinson OUT
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 1, 2016 15:51:24 GMT
Oh dear I'd be lying if I said I didn't see that coming 2-0 We are shit
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Post by greydad on Oct 1, 2016 17:09:12 GMT
There were a few decent passing moves in the first half but it was a performance sterile enough to allow surgical procedures...the substitutions might be seen as brave, positive or whatever, but they were absolutely ineffective and led to less possession than before...both goals exemplified the team's susceptibility to the counter-attacks which inevitably follow from losing the ball under little or no pressure. I honestly don't know what the answer is to the malaise affecting the team, but the end of the month could easily see them in the bottom three, which is 4 pts away at the moment. We saw last season how difficult it is to escape from the mire once mired within it, worrying times indeed!
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Post by davidm on Oct 1, 2016 18:11:10 GMT
I despair.
I couldn’t imagine performances getting worse than Bradford and Rochdale but today beat it.
Did we have a shot on goal?
Nearly 450 minutes (5 games) without a goal and today we eventually fell apart defensively.
The manager made 5 changes from Rochdale and it made no difference whatsoever. I think we played 4-3-1-2 but who knows.
We played 2 defensive midfielders – Spearing & Trotter – plus Andrew Taylor (a left back) at left midfield so that was 8 non-attacking players in the side.
As always, we set off with a bit of spring in our play. Madine won a few headers, Clough flattered to deceive but very quickly Oxford started to out-pass us. They found their men with their passes whilst ours were 50/50.
We had one decent attack when Clough got wide on the left. He played in Taylor who totally mis-kicked. The ball ran to Henry who scooped it onto the top of the net.
And that was it for the first half.
Second half was worse. We couldn’t manufacture a move and Oxford got more and more on top. They missed an absolute sitter but dominated.
The manager then made 3 subs in one go. Madine, Clough and Henry off for Anderson, Proctor and Ameobi. Notice no removal of all the defensive players.
This change made us even worse and then we messed up in midfield when 3 of our players lost the ball to 1 of theirs. They played the ball out to the right and then into the middle where the sub was totally unmark to score.
We could do nothing with just 10 minutes left and then Andrew Taylor got caught on the ball – because he tried to turn backwards as we always do - and they broke. Defensively, we were screwed and their sub, who scored the 1st, was clean through. He beat Howard with his shot which hit the post and rebounded to the middle of goal where they had 2 men unmarked to finish us off.
This was the worst performance so far. I still struggle to understand the tactics. We had less hoofball today but do we need 8 defensive players in the side?
The whole side has lost confidence and the manager seems incapable of inspiring them.
Thank goodness we won the first 4 games. We were lucky to win them – God knows where we’d be if Sheff Utd, Wimbledon, Bristol or Fleetwood had had any luck against us.
Howard - 5 No chance with goals but still a lot of flapping and terrible kicking.
Vela - 4 Struggled really badly in his defensive duties and tried to help the attack but it didn’t work.
Beevers - 4 A sloppy performance. He hauled one their forwards down in the second half when he was easily turned but somehow got away with it. No danger to the opposition at corners/ free kicks plus some terrible passing.
Wheater - 5 Not too secure today. Like Beevers, no threat in attack.
Moxey - 3 Some dreadful passes and totally exposed a few times.
Trotter - 3 So slow. He tends to stand 5 to 10 yards away from his man and they played around him easily. He made a couple of attacking thrust, which got to nothing, in the second half.
Spearing - 4 A real struggle. His ball control seems to have gone completely. Poor passing.
Henry - 4 Played at the top of the so-called diamond and had no effect at all.
Taylor A - 3 Totally lost. At fault for Oxford’s second goal.
Clough - 5 Some spark but not a good performance.
Madine - 5 Won a few flick-ons early on but faded badly. Never looked like scoring.
Anderson - 2 No impact at all.
Proctor - 4 As usual, ran about a lot but caused no problems.
Ameobi - 1 Shockingly bad. He lost the ball every time he got it. His mess up, which I think also involved Trotter, started the break for the 1st goal. Dreadful.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 1, 2016 18:29:25 GMT
Absolute garbage. We might as well of started with 10 men for what use Trotter was and the 3 substitutes made zero impact. We had no shots on target and only 3 off target. We cannot keep hold of the ball and we are so slow to recover when we lose it. Just like last season every team manages to just play around our midfield at will. Henry was one of the better performers and he was missed when he went off. I agree totally with Pedro re: Samizadeh. We have nothing to lose to give him 15/20 mins it's not as if we are scoring goals for fun is it?
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