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Post by andyl on Sept 10, 2016 11:02:46 GMT
We need a thread!
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Post by andyl on Sept 10, 2016 11:09:03 GMT
This time last year I travelled to MK Dons. Madine we were told was injured..but he played..clearly under some coercion..and missed chances. The will he won't he misinformation was common last year. This year he is out for a fortnight and maybe he actually is. If so we are being ushered into greater openness. Meanwhile Proctor may appear. He ran well at Wimbledon and helped to make a goal. But last week I thought he looked a bit devoid of skill. Ameobi in contrast showed lots. I think we can be hopeful but we must be careful too. MK Don's are more likely to take chances than some previous but they look lightweight. Maybe Sammy will shine as Shola did when sealing last year's victory
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2016 13:35:33 GMT
Sorry Sammy is not starting
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 10, 2016 13:42:27 GMT
I held back on doing a thread as I thought there'd be much interest from fellow posters but it's been left until the last minute Come on Trottersforever members, this is OUR club👍🏼 Let's hope the dreaded MOM curse doesn't appear at the ReeMac 2-1 To the whites COYWM
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 10, 2016 15:56:38 GMT
I'll try to remain positive !! We didn't get beat, when we should have!! Thanks to Mark Howard Can we not get our hands on a goal scorer in January as we're going to drop like a stone otherwise
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Post by andyl on Sept 10, 2016 16:12:45 GMT
That was the worst performance this season. A bright start suggested more and we got a good goal from a set piece.
Taylor in for a Moxey certainly strengthened left defence but weakened left attack. We were too narrow.
Upfront Anderson couldn't get into it and Proctor and Henry were weak. Proctor ran well and headed a few but lacked composure and skill. Time and time again we gave the ball away or hit poor final balls
In midfield Trotter offered two good moments and a couple of good passes but vanished. Spearing battled bravely.
They scored after a double save and then missed a penalty. We had a couple of phases of pressure but foundered under continously better midfield play. Ameobi missed a sitter then hit a good shot. Taylor had a good shot blocked and that was it a depressingly flat offering Howard 7 (good saves especially the penalty, Buxton 4 Beevers 7 Wheater 5 Taylor 6 Spearing 7 Vela 5 Trotter 5 Henry 2 Anderson 4 Proctor5
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 10, 2016 16:13:56 GMT
I'll try to remain positive !! We didn't get beat, when we should have!! Thanks to Mark Howard Can we not get our hands on a goal scorer in January as we're going to drop like a stone otherwise I meant to go on and say that had we got a decent goal scorer we might not have dropped 6 home points and now be sitting on 21 points to our next challenger Scun Thorpe on 13
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Post by bonaparte on Sept 10, 2016 17:24:52 GMT
Dead right Andy, though Buxton lucky to get a 4.
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Post by andyl on Sept 10, 2016 17:48:57 GMT
I think we saw the worst of PP today. Team was too narrow. Chosen full backs could not overlap. When Ameobi came on he was sent to left midfield. Henry struggled in the role he had. At the very end when Ameobi went wide right we had one or two chances and crosses.
Also why were they whingeing about the referee? He wasn't good I accept and again there was shirt pulling. And he could have booked Vela early on. And he gave too many needless decisions. But he did stamp out Lewington dissent and I had no problem with the penalty. Buxton made an awful mess of it both outside and inside the penalty area. It wasn't the referee who kept appealing for decisions and stopping that was Proctor. And it wasn't the referee who got outplayed in midfield. Nor did he keep giving the ball away or crossing it hopelessly? It was a pretty poor show really and we were very lucky not to lose?
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Post by davidm on Sept 10, 2016 17:49:00 GMT
Well, we were outpassed, particularly in the second half, and came off fortunate to get a point.
We started brightly, got a goal against a brittle MK defence but couldn’t keep us our pressing game. Second half, we just lost any sort of control and really deserved to lose. Our midfield players were all over the place in the second half and were just watching shadows. But for the centre of the defence plus the goalie, we would have suffered our first defeat.
It was a really poor overall show and worries me for the rest of the season. Walsall and Bradford will give us hard matches. We need to control games much better and desperately need to work on ways of scoring goals as we just don’t look likely.
Howard - 8 Outstanding save from the penalty. Earned us a point.
Buxton - 4 Very poor. Both the goal and the penalty came down his side and came from some ineffective defending from him.
Beevers - 7 As usual, along with Wheater and Howard, held us together and saved us from defeat. Took the goal well.
Wheater - 7 Had 2 decent heading chances but missed with both. Solid with Beevers again.
Taylor A - 5 Didn’t get forward much and when he did his crosses were poor.
Trotter - 4 Started so-so and just got worse. In the second half, when MK Dons, were running all over us, he just stood and watched. Awful.
Spearing - 6 Not his usual dominant self. Second half, he was over-run.
Henry - 6 Played just behind 2 attackers and promised much but it didn’t quite work.
Vela - 6 Not as effective as usual and had a bad spell middle of second half when he couldn’t do a thing right.
Anderson - 5 Not the bright spark that he was last week. The only occasion that he used his pace and got clear, he shot poorly instead of passing to the unmarked Henry.
Proctor - 7 Worked really hard and played the lone striker lone quite well. But, and this is a major but, he is not a goalscorer. He worked his socks off, created problems for MK defenders but never looked like scoring.
Ameobi - 6 Some neat tricks. Played as a wide man when he came on. Got our only shot on target in the second half.
Taylor C - 5 One deflected shot but little else.
Thorpe - 5 Couldn’t get into the game in the short time he was on.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 10, 2016 17:54:38 GMT
I'm not saying that we were wrong to get rid of both Woolery and Wilkinson, i'm not. But when I looked at the bench today there was no one that sprung to mind to bring on and scare that defence. Proctor for me is another Heskey, maybe away to hold the ball up but he doesn't excite.
I'm really hoping that we see Samizadeh on the bench soon.
Buxton looked like he had a shocker today
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 10, 2016 18:52:56 GMT
Again we are seeing other teams scoring 2 3 & 4 goals in games in this VERY ordinary league. We will never ever be clearly staring at promotion as expectantly as we are in this easy to wrap up league but the problem we have is that we can't kill off teams. No team has stood out, especially not us and yet we still sit top!! We are desperate for a front man but we're not exciting the crowd. Just hope we don't look back on the 3 early season home draws with any regret.
On another note, it's the first time I've bothered looking at the Championship table and its making grim reading for the North West sides at the bottom. Hopefully, we'll be swapping with any from Wigan Blackburn and Preston. Long way to go though
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Post by greydad on Sept 10, 2016 21:04:32 GMT
Last week a strong, dominant second half was not rewarded with a deserved win...today, a very poor second half achieved a draw that could, and probably should have resulted in defeat. Well done Mark Howard, an excellent penalty save which should have been the springboard for an onslaught similar to last week's final 30 minutes, but instead became a lifeline for a team that struggled to maintain possession and fluency. The White's early dominance and subsequent goal raised hopes for an emphatic win, but to the home fans' frustration the team became increasingly unable to find any fluency and composure, not least in the final third.....Oh for a fit and in-form Clough! At least the League Table continues to make good reading, and playing badly and not losing is not to be sniffed at, however disappointing the performance....let's hope that the trip to Walsall sees an improvement in terms of both performance and points acquired.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 11, 2016 9:09:57 GMT
There's just no fluency to the side at all, no link or understanding between midfield and attack. With two pacy forwards now in Anderson and Ameobi and two good midfield passers of the ball in Trotter and Henry supporting them, why are we not playing more through balls for them to run onto? We have the squad now so surely it's just tactics and instructions. Let's hope PP can agree on a settled side and format at least so the players can get used to each other and find the right positions. Early days yet but how frustrating when you think how far in front we could have been with just a little more coordination. I'm hoping the Bradford fans are wrong in their assertion that all we'll see are balls lumped forwards under Parky!! So far I'm worried they may be.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 11, 2016 11:04:56 GMT
Was thinking the same thing, can't really remember the last time I saw a through ball. All our goals seem to come from set pieces and scrambles but last season we were wasting set pieces, which was why we were at the bottom and adrift.
There's still no balance to the team, there's still the full back issues and for me Derick on the bench is a real puzzler. Get him in, we need a holding midfielder who can find a pass directly and turn defence into attack. He's not a centre back and he's not a full back so start using him so we can push Vela further up.
We miss Clough and Clayton but we can't really rely on them anyway and I get the impression now that Clayton is more myth than man, "he will come back and start scoring" what are we basing this on? More like 2 games played 12 games missed. 2 goal a season man.
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