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Post by Trotter on Aug 8, 2016 19:08:46 GMT
Blackpool have injury worries over strikers Danny Philliskirk and Kyle Vassell for their first-round tie against League One side Bolton.
Philliskirk damaged his ankle in Saturday's League Two win over Exeter while Vassell hurt his hip, but midfielder Bright Osayi-Samuel is expected to be available after cramp.
Bolton will be without midfielder Darren Pratley (fractured leg).
Zach Clough (hamstring) and Dorian Dervite (knee) are also doubts.
Striker Jamie Proctor came off the bench in the Trotters' opening-day win over Sheffield United after a groin strain and could start against the Tangarines.
Im going for another victory Blackpool 0 Bolton 1
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Post by OohMac on Aug 8, 2016 20:32:58 GMT
In two minds wouldn't mind seeing Walker, Clayton and Derick brought in. Even Dervite to rest Wheater but want to progress and want the feel good factor to continue.
Hoping for a 3-1 win
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Post by riochforthereebok on Aug 9, 2016 21:24:24 GMT
It's a real shock that is !!!!! I wanted to predict an easy victory for us but in all honesty, I completely forgot we were playing until I just looked at the red button Looks like Amos had a shocker!! Could be wrong?
NOt sure what this EFL is and what it's re branded from but then I also couldn't care less as we're never gonna see a final with our crop of players but it would be nice to win as winning breeds confidence and it's a good habit to get into
Ah well!! Back to the drawing board Neil.. Ahem Sorry! I mean Phil...😞
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Post by OohMac on Aug 9, 2016 21:34:30 GMT
Was the league cup and I'm more annoyed than I thought I would be. We've hardly given this competition a go in years gone by so it's not too surprising. However im annoyed that the team we put out weren't good enough to beat a very poor squad in front of more Bolton fans by the sounds of it.
Amos and Mark Davies on huge money get brought in and do what? This. Pathetic.
I really fear this could be the start of a downward spiral. Can't defend. Can't win away from home. Let's hope we can bring some fresh faces in soon!
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Post by davidm on Aug 9, 2016 22:24:45 GMT
Just got home from watching a truly pathetic performance.
The players + manager should be ashamed of such a pitiful performance.
I include the manager because we just seemed totally content to sit on a 1-0 lead instead of trying for more goals against a woefully poor Blackpool side. Of course, sitting back did us this time unlike Saturday and we just caved in defensively.
We had some bad luck. Could easily have had a penalty when it was 1-0 when Trotter's shot was blocked by an arm and Finney hit the post from a corner.
The second half of extra time was dreadful.
A terrible terrible performance. All credit from Saturday has been blown away.
The match was played at a practice match/friendly pace. Possession of the ball was dominant in our favour but it was mainly sideways and at a walking pace.
Some awful long range shooting also - we had 6 or 7 efforts from the edge of the box and all went miles over.
Amos - 6 - hardly troubled which sounds stupid when we concede 4 but he appeared to have no chance with the goals. Wilson - 4 - got forward a lot with Taylor but created nothing between them. Moxey - 3 - one great cross in first half but out of position for 1st goal. Beavers - 5 - dominant for 60 mins then chaos afterwards Finney - 5 - as with Beavers, good for an hour then collapsed. Osede - 6 - only on for 20 mins but quite good in that time Davies - 4 - initially dominated. Caught in possession for 1st goal. As I said all last season, played too deep. Trotter - 4 - lovely centre for Proctor goal but too much sideways and too much played at walking pace. Vela - 3 - really anonymous Taylor - 2 - created nothing Walker - 3 - got knocked off the ball easily Proctor - 6 - nice goal and some good running. Our decline started when he was subbed. Madine - 2 - one shot blocked, otherwise nothing Woolery - 6 - took his goal well. Spoiled things later by endlessly giving fouls away when Blackpool were trying to play out time
Manager - 2 - content to sit on 1-0 lead
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Post by davidm on Aug 10, 2016 8:33:38 GMT
I’ve calmed down a bit since last night.
A few comments:-
1. Blackpool are a poor team – much worse than we’ll meet in league 1.
2. We had loads of possession but it was all 20/30 yards from goal.
3. We played one man up front on his own. Neither Taylor nor Walker joined in. They stayed on the wings and the midfield just remained way behind.
4. We seemed so content just to pass the ball around and not advance into the penalty area.
5. Our shooting was awful. 6 or 7 shots from outside the box were wild and way over.
6. Defensively, we fell apart. Awful marking for goals 1 and 2. Static defending for goal 3.
7. We have absolutely no pace in our side which is why we are so pedestrian. Blackpool scored through fast, nippy movement in our box which we just do not have. The 2 wingers never get past walking pace.
The manager commented:-
1. "We should have been out of sight," Parkinson told BBC Radio Manchester. "At 1-0 up in the second half, we dominated and had chance after chance to extend our lead. – Agreed, we should have been out of sight but No we didn’t make chance after chance. We had a lot of half-chances (as did Blackpool).
2. "We had an absolute certain penalty that wasn't given. Agreed.
3. "We should have been out of sight and then we switched off for four minutes and got punished. It was the only real time, in that second period in particular, where we'd been threatened at all. – that’s because we were just sitting back, happy with a 1-0
4. "There was a lot of good stuff from us. Some of the football we played was excellent but the lesson from tonight is that when we have that dominance we have to punish teams, and we were unable to do that. Good stuff 30 yards from goal Yes but not in the box.
5. "We gave everything” – Rubbish – “we just couldn't kill the game off when we had that dominant spell."
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Post by Trotter on Aug 10, 2016 17:53:35 GMT
DavidM thanks for the update and yes your first report was a tad over the top with frustration an experience I myself got just from media reports and texts from friends who attended the game. Looking on the bright side we did fight back from 2-1 down to draw level which would have meant a point in a league game plus it was not our full strength team but thanks again for the report.
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Post by OohMac on Aug 10, 2016 22:11:41 GMT
Still don't really know what style we want to play. All preseason we heard about old fashioned wingers. We don't have those. Will Madine and Proctor ever play together? Don't think any are good enough to lead a solo front line but they could work off each other.
Brought in another versatile defender of certain age today and im wondering if we're making the same mistakes as last year. Too many sub par players instead of maybe one quality signing.
Is it really too much to hope for ALF or Juke on loan?
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 11, 2016 18:07:35 GMT
Still don't really know what style we want to play. All preseason we heard about old fashioned wingers. We don't have those. Will Madine and Proctor ever play together? Don't think any are good enough to lead a solo front line but they could work off each other. Brought in another versatile defender of certain age today and im wondering if we're making the same mistakes as last year. Too many sub par players instead of maybe one quality signing. Is it really too much to hope for ALF or Juke on loan? Absolutely spot on OM, just what I've been saying for years. Successive managers have continually brought in copious inferior players instead of using what little money we do have for one or two quality ones. I just can't believe management can't see how much more sense that makes. Peanuts get monkeys and surely we've learned by now where that gets us??
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Post by BL2 on Aug 11, 2016 20:40:57 GMT
In our current state we are hardly an attractive proposition for any quality player even if we could afford them which I doubt. Third rate non-entities who are desparate for a club are all we can attract and we have enough of those already.
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Post by OohMac on Aug 12, 2016 8:19:57 GMT
In our current state we are hardly an attractive proposition for any quality player even if we could afford them which I doubt. Third rate non-entities who are desparate for a club are all we can attract and we have enough of those already. Not really. We could get a young player from the premiership who needs experience, Coventry did it last year and are/were they in a better position than us? We have City, United and two Merseyside teams on our doorstep with huge squads and academy's. Loaning us a prospect makes sense for all parties and makes more sense than a 32 year old "versatile" defender nearing the end of his career. How many players have we basically just boosted pensions for and got little back from? On that note I think there should be a penalty jar box at the training and any time some one says the word versatile in it they get fined because I've never known a player to be equally apt in two positions. It's a term usually meaning "desperate, stuck, it will have to do" well maybe in January when injuries suspensions and games coming thick and fast but on the first game of the season there is no way we should be playing a right back on the wing! Square pegs once again .
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 12, 2016 13:38:45 GMT
In our current state we are hardly an attractive proposition for any quality player even if we could afford them which I doubt. Third rate non-entities who are desparate for a club are all we can attract and we have enough of those already. Not really. We could get a young player from the premiership who needs experience, Coventry did it last year and are/were they in a better position than us? We have City, United and two Merseyside teams on our doorstep with huge squads and academy's. Loaning us a prospect makes sense for all parties and makes more sense than a 32 year old "versatile" defender nearing the end of his career. How many players have we basically just boosted pensions for and got little back from? On that note I think there should be a penalty jar box at the training and any time some one says the word versatile in it they get fined because I've never known a player to be equally apt in two positions. It's a term usually meaning "desperate, stuck, it will have to do" well maybe in January when injuries suspensions and games coming thick and fast but on the first game of the season there is no way we should be playing a right back on the wing! Square pegs once again . Unfortunately BL2 money talks these days and whilst we must surely still be an attractive club for history and facilities we aren't financially.But like OM says, surely there must be some young or fringe PL strikers who would like game time here. You'd think with our owners experience in player negotiations he would be on top of that and of course he may be but with the restrictions we're up against maybe that's the problem. Personally I'd just like to see a bit more youth and pace up front instead of the Madines and Proctor's but sadly that's all we've got just now. To be fair, successful teams score from all over the pitch but we don't seem to have much of that either so it looks like a long and ponderous season ahead.
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