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Post by joanna on Apr 20, 2016 11:11:32 GMT
Excellent... your best-ever post, Meggo. A sane voice amongst the histrionic. Well done.
As regards Pratley, I can't argue with your judgement, Bonaparte, but what I wrote previously was that there needs to be a practical role for his energy and ability to motor between boxes.....something which will be vital in the lower divisions. I agree that he would not be good enough in the prem, but he is similar to Muamba who, despite his clumsiness on on the ball, had an individual value that no one else could provide.
At least Lancs CC are doing well!!
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Post by megsontilidie on Apr 20, 2016 11:43:28 GMT
Cheers Joanna. if we've learnt anything from NL's departure, it must be that he wasn't exactly massively under-performing as we thought. sure several mistakes he made i wished he would have addressed. over-playing Mavies, poor subs etc any dip since then is mainly due to experienced players unavailable...Amos injury, Spearing on sidelines, Feeney loaned out, Wellington injury, Madine injury etc. to just pin it on JP and go after another manager is missing the point.
the reason their posts weren't constructive is probably that there aren't any simple solutions out there.
we keep saying it year after year, but we really need a good pre-season..get some confidence back in their veins, and try and start afresh. very dependent on the off-pitch to give enough support to the manager to sort some of the mess out.
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Post by spanishjonny on Apr 20, 2016 12:32:52 GMT
I went to the game, Andy and DavidM can speak for themselves, but this thread is Charlton match thread I made more effort to get there than some of the players did during the 90 mins If this was your first visit to the Macron you would probably have rated the players similar, we were looking for signs of improvement to try and gain some momentum for next season and Charlton at home was a good opportunity to grab a long needed win We can only hope that the young players we will rely on next season will put this behind them and start next season fully fit and keen to prove how good they are
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Post by andyl on Apr 20, 2016 12:42:52 GMT
Well yes,Joanna- I think have just had more pleasure watching Lancs polish off Notts than at football last night! Haseeb is a bright young talent. Very mature. If only one of BWFC ' S young players compared!!
What did I want,mtid? A sight more than we saw last night. I defy anyone present to say they enjoyed the game. It was awful.
What could Jimmy have done. Played Threlkeld centre midfield. Played Holding right back? Restored Trotter to central midfield. Yes maybe Danns. Why not ten mins of Samizadeh? He didn't feature in the most obvious game. Told Amos to roll the ball out especially after Heskey.
You would have had to be there,mtid, as you acknowledge, to feel the listlessness and lethargy that beset both teams. The whole game was a waste of everyone's time
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Post by megsontilidie on Apr 20, 2016 13:05:38 GMT
good that's better already. not disagreeing it was dire, woeful ,dull and desperate from reports i've heard from friends at the game. it was all of those. just wanted the constructive criticism that you have now added. disagree about Threlkeld. he's played rb for us before. can't see any point moving Holding out of position. plus OT did well anyway. Trotter i'll give you that one..instead of Pratley perhaps. worth a try. Samizadeh from bench. yes agree .could have done..if not injured.
Amos rolling it out. you've been going on about that point with about the last 5 managers and the last 5 or 6 keepers. keep living in hope. maybe a better idea would be to let the centre backs kick it out as they often do with an injury hampered keeper. you're right though, reports from friends mentioned this as a frustrating aspect..Heskey's only strength is winning aerials and yet the keeper can't kick straight or telegraphs it too much.
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Post by andyl on Apr 20, 2016 13:37:24 GMT
Well I'm sorry not to have been constructive first off but it took 5 hours and a cricket win to shake the stress out!
Re Threlkeld there was one excellent moment in the second half where he came inside turned in approximately one quarter of Pratley ' s turning circle and fizzed a pass to a teammate. I hope at Cardiff he becomes first choice for the position he has been playing. Yes Amos was lethargic. He was trundling around his area like Marley's ghost in chains. At least once everyone lined up in a swarm by the player's tunnel and he hoofed it straight out. It was ugly. When he first came he rightly superseded Bogdan and Lonergan. Now he looks dreadful most of the time - almost as if he has difficulty focusing. It may be down to ankle injury. That could explain much. But if not, O dear!
I didn't know that AS was injured but if so why not Thomas, Walker Twardzik or Cvetko? Or?What possible harm could it have done? What have we learnt?
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Post by OohMac on Apr 20, 2016 14:04:45 GMT
A point for Jimmy, but surely this is the most daming result, so bitterly disappointed. If you would have said to me that Bolton will win this at a canter I wouldn't have been too surprised. Playing against a poor team, some confidence in a battling display against the leaders. One day I've expected to blow teams away even if it's a one off!
But God that was just effortless.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Apr 21, 2016 10:39:39 GMT
Well I went to the game on Tuesday night and I can't believe some of the comments that have been made on here since.
Yes, the match was boring, but we kept a clean sheet, something we haven't done since the 28th Dec 2015 v Blackburn, so a positive at least.
Yes, Charlton were a team at their lowest ebb and maybe ripe for picking, but we have played plenty of teams this season that we have all thought we should beat and yet have lost.
Out of the current bottom ten teams (incl us & excluding Tues' game) we have only managed to keep 3 clean sheets 2 v Blackburn and Bristol City at home back in Nov 15.
Away from home we have lost 6 out of the 8 matches we have played against the 9 teams above us and shipped 22 goals.
At home we have won 3 MK Dons (who are probably going to be relegated with us), Rotherham (who we certainly wouldn't beat now) and Blackburn.
I saw signs that Jimmy Phillips has obviously been working on the shape of the defence in training and it paid off. He's been in post 4 weeks? What exactly do you all expect.
He's been giving young players their chance in the first team, most have taken it and played quite well.
We have a nucleus of a very young promising team which could almost be made up of players with an average age of 21.9 years
GK - Amos - 26 RB - Threlkeld - 21 CB - Holding - 20 CB - Derik - 23 LB - Maher - 20 MF- Vela - 22 MF - Twardzik - 23 MF/W - Walker - 20 MF/S - Clough - 21 S/W - Woolery - 21 S - Eaves - 24
Add to those a couple of more experienced players if we still have some under contract who aren't going to cost us too much and they could prove to be a very good team....IN TIME
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