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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 8, 2016 13:02:57 GMT
GOODBYE CHAMPIONSHIP-HELLO LEAGUE ONE A right thumping off the Rams if JP throws the kids in. I know we've all been calling for them and I'd still throw them in to gain some 'big stadium' experience. Might be the only chance they get. 4-1 I'll go for and that deals our fate
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Post by OohMac on Apr 8, 2016 14:16:13 GMT
Was thinking 4-1 too.
They were in a bit of a rut, like Brentford, but got a good victory before playing us so confidence was high. Derby players will know that play offs or promotion may come down to goals so they won't put the breaks on at 3 like Brentford. Last season we lost 4-1 here and we've got worse so it really could be 6 or 7.
In fact 6-0.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2016 15:44:20 GMT
I am going to this game as against them was my last game due to money but now I will treat it like a pre-season game I just hope they don't get to carried away and do us for 5 or 6 would love a corner or two just to get excited might go for god knows ?
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Post by realtrottersforever on Apr 8, 2016 15:46:06 GMT
16 games without a clean sheet...and as I seem to say every game..I can't see that changing. we'll do extremely well to keep it below 3 conceded. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35948738as the Beeb preview says : "Derby are unbeaten in 11 home league games against the Trotters stretching back to November 1982 (W7 D4)" Blimey, we're playing bad enough already without facing head to head records like this.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 8, 2016 20:40:16 GMT
Hope Derby players are reading our forum, they'll take the win for granted and we'll stuff em Would love to see well supported teams like Derby and Sheff Wed in the Prem, rather them than Watford and Bornemouth
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Post by greydad on Apr 9, 2016 7:49:19 GMT
Hope so too RFTR! Today will be a real test for management and players, I hope the journey will at least see the Whites offer a better level of commitment and competitiveness...no easy thing based on recent history, but we have to travel with some optimism! JP and PR have done what so many fans have asked for, albeit with no success in terms of results, and not a great deal in terms of performances either, but surely they must persevere with the likes of Woolery, Maher and company, in the hope that the more experienced players can emerge from their collective lethargy and actually set a positive example to their younger peers....I won't be holding my breath though, and will be taking plenty of comfort food!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 8:38:53 GMT
Anybody know how many tickets have been sold ?
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Post by davidm on Apr 9, 2016 17:13:19 GMT
What a weak pathetic way to bow out.
Just no fight - just heads down throughout.
According to commentary every time we had possession, we lost it in 1 or 2 passes. By all accounts, it could have been 8 or 9.
I've seen the goals. Amos beaten twice from outside the area but we just allowed Derby the chance to shoot. No marking at all for Ince's tap-in and Moxey all at sea when Russell just miskicks and still has time to regain the ball, walk round Moxey and tap in. There were also 6 or 7 shots whistling just over.
Absolutely pathetic - is there no character in these players. We are beaten before we kick off.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2016 17:22:15 GMT
I am so glad I went today to see with my own eyes how ****ing shit and useless we are we will be down another league before long that's four defeats on the spin no win in 11 how shit are we I am so sorry for this but **** **** **** ****ing sick of getting beat. Fair play to those that turned up today and made it a laugh it's a pity the players have not turned up all season **** the lot of them the w*****s at least the true fans will still turn out to watch the shit dished out I applaud the lot of you once a Wanderer always a Wanderer. SORRY but that's how I feel going to go and get pissed now.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 10, 2016 10:11:44 GMT
As if relegation wasn't bad enough, we've not even had a match report from AndyL !!! Things must be bad..
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Post by OohMac on Apr 10, 2016 10:14:57 GMT
First two predictions got the score correct. So obvious. Went to check on Derby to win with 4 or more goals in the match and the odds weren't particularly great. No idea where we go from here. Think we need an owner who can not only keep us afloat but invest too. At the moment the winding up order may have been a blessing in disguise. We can't continue to just getting hidings every single week can we? Phillips & Reids record is 15 goals against 2 (both penalties) for LLLL - what did I expect from the pair? Revival and safety? No a Warnock type of turnaround? No. But better? Definitely
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 10, 2016 11:04:50 GMT
First two predictions got the score correct. So obvious. Went to check on Derby to win with 4 or more goals in the match and the odds weren't particularly great. No idea where we go from here. Think we need an owner who can not only keep us afloat but invest too. At the moment the winding up order may have been a blessing in disguise. We can't continue to just getting hidings every single week can we? Phillips & Reids record is 15 goals against 2 (both penalties) for LLLL - what did I expect from the pair? Revival and safety? No a Warnock type of turnaround? No. But better? Definitely Totally agree. Between Coyle, Freedman and Lennon, we've ended up with the most useless, passionless crop of misfits on an average £12 THOUSAND English pounds per week Abs
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Post by greydad on Apr 10, 2016 12:48:33 GMT
My text report to Andy L re: the match yesterday was....pleasant journey, enjoyable coffee and sandwiches, pre-match chats with a couple of acquaintances and an enjoyable build-up to the game itself, the atmosphere in a well- stocked stadium being excellent. The highlight of the game was probably the fact that it was possible to watch the game from a good vantage point and not have to stand up...the fans in the front responded happily to being asked to either sit down, or move further back, so common sense and consideration to others was t5he order of the day. Then came kick-of, and the sense of Deja Vu reared it's familiar head....I'm prepared to give Amos the benefit of the doubt for the first goal, it came from a deflected pass and was superbly struck, moving away throughout it's flight before nestling in the corner of the net. The second goal saw Ince given the freedom of the left side of the 6 yard box, reinforcing the obvious that Deryk is not a right back..he didn't struggle as much as in previous games, but a fully paid up member of the full back fraternity might have been better positioned. I wouldn't apportion any blame for the goals to Amos, a defence that has struggled all season was given scant protection from a static midfield, made more so with the introduction of Heskey for Trotter. The latter was not playing well, but was not alone in this regard...Danns harried and ran, but to little avail, Vela was on a mission to convince the ref to send him off, and it seemed that the team as a whole struggled to put any passing movement of note together. Woolery and Clough were given no service to speak of, and Moxey continued to look shell-shocked and in desperate need of support. Holding and Wheater tried their best, but the team was not set up in a way that would contain or come remotely close to matching Derby. Why JP didn't give his opening formation from the Reading game another try I'm not sure...a stronger midfield was essential yesterday, and regardless of the indifferent form of Mark D recently I thought that his introduction served to underline why he should be playing, but in a 5 rather than a 4...had Deryk been in front of the defence the midfield would surely have ben better equipped to protect the defence. We didn't need a front 2, and either Clough or Woolery could have started as a lone front runner. The objective should have been to minimise a good team's threat, and try to pinch something late on, but the selection invited pressure and the team simply could not cope.
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Post by joanna on Apr 10, 2016 15:51:16 GMT
Jimmy Phillips' post-match comments are interesting. He gives a very honest appraisal, I think. Certainly more telling comment than DF ever provided:
"We played a Derby team who were first to every ball and wanted it more than us. It was only when Emile Heskey came on that we had any real attacking threat.
We’ve got to make sure we turn up and apply ourselves in the right manner between now and the end of the season. It’s about building for the future. We have to make sure we don’t capitulate. We will continue working on the training ground every day to make sure that doesn’t happen.
I would imagine that the new owners will put their plan into action. The sooner we have a clear indication of which direction the club is moving in the better. I would imagine there will be significant changes, Going forward, I feel we need to have a more athletic group of players. I think that will be the key to being successful next season.
For large periods of games we haven’t been competitive. We’ve tried a few different systems, formations and tactics. We’ve given some of the younger players a go, tried some experience in the side. As of yet we haven’t had a response to solving our problems, but we will continue to try.
The only positive thing we can say about this season is that we still have a football club called Bolton Wanderers, because at one stage that was seriously doubtful. A club that means so much to me, it’s sad to see us where we are right now, but we have to believe that we will come back."
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Post by OohMac on Apr 10, 2016 16:41:42 GMT
I still think Jimmy had a lot of qualities and I'm not against him having a go but it's hard to put an argument for when we're having 30%, no points and in all games the other team could have scored more than they did.
It's a difficult position, I would say we need to play 5 and build from keeping clean sheets but what's the point of that when we're down and nothing to cling to? Need to play there way we will next season and hopefully that will be more attacking, more chances and better possession.
I would honestly give Jimmy the target of winning one game! That for me would be a good return
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