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Post by andyl on Feb 13, 2016 15:14:02 GMT
Dervite Bolton0
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Post by davidm on Feb 13, 2016 15:50:23 GMT
Conceded to a counter attack. Just no pace in our team.
AndyL continually says that we are wide open to counter attacks and today backs it up.
It's hard to see us scoring.
We are the only team in the bottom 6 who are losing. Back to bottom of league.
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Post by andyl on Feb 13, 2016 16:02:27 GMT
We are playing very well and there have been some fluent multi pass attacks. Should be ahead but same old. 3 counter attacks,2 goals. Dervite awful. We don't need Silva. Playing him ahead of Derik was a repeat of everything we have seen so often. Being counter attacked on away grounds!!!!!
This needs change. Why O why does Neil make the same mistakes over and over and over and over... ? Derik OK but fish out of water. But should definitely be in the team before Dervite. It is screamingly painfully obvious!!
This is not the Scottish Premier
We could yet win three two but 5-1 is more likely without change.
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Post by davidm on Feb 13, 2016 16:19:36 GMT
Oh Dear Oh Dear
Feeney misses one on one with keeper.
Mark Davies terrible mistake concedes goal.
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Post by davidm on Feb 13, 2016 16:57:26 GMT
17 goals conceded in last 6 away games.
Says it all doesn't it
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Post by davidm on Feb 13, 2016 16:59:36 GMT
Bristol City WIN MK Dons WIN Charlton DRAW Rotherham Draw Fulham WIN
BWFC LOSE
7 points away from safety
What a bad day
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Post by andyl on Feb 13, 2016 18:28:51 GMT
I probably don't need to say too much. You have all seen this game regularly.
It was a very good game for a neutral. There were lots of end to end movements. We were probably the better team for much of the game and we scored two very good goals
But of course we cannot do other than lose games playing with two wingers and a slow midfield protecting Dervite.
Nor can we not be relegated under this manager because he persists in a formation that is too vulnerable to counter attacks. It's as if he is trying to lose matches and to make sure of these defeats he refuses to make substitutes until much too late. Today he left Emile on for about 85 minutes. He will not be getting out of the bath anytime soon
We began brightly and passed the ball around well. Holding is a class act in possession and today we saw several forays and deft touches in addition to some composed defensive work. I am going to credit Dervite with a goal line clearance in the second half but he was abominable again today The first goal was identical to the Eastleigh home goal and the Wolves away. One pass and Dervite was left floundering
Our goal in contrast was excellent. Feeney did well to move infield, Mark Davies found Silva who crossed well for the ball to find Emile who crashed it in
But then we were on the attack and a kick from defence after Derik was upfield stranded everyone. Spearing gave chase but was outpaced and didn't tackle when he could even if a yellow card might well have ensued. The man ran the length of the field tipped it inside and they scored easily. Derik I might say played pretty well until the end and is miles better than Dervite but was oddly asked to go to left back. Very strange.
In the second half we pressed strongly and Spearing again hit a cracker of a left foot shot.
And the came the game's decisive moment. Feeney broke away and shot feebly straight at the keeper when one on one. Then at the other end Amos whose distribution was much improved gave Vela an easy ball. He passed it infield to Davies who had plenty of time to move it on but got caught and suddenly it was 3-2.
We persevered to the end and Woolery had a couple of good darts in the ten minutes he was given but we had given away too much
Soft goals but a flawed team selection. Yet again home opposition were afforded the luxury of counter attacking us and yet again our wingers didn't really get in the game.
Amos 8 Vela 5 Holding 7 Dervite 2 Derik 6 Davies 6 Pratley 7 Spearing 7 Feeney 4 Heskey 6 Silva 4
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Post by OohMac on Feb 13, 2016 18:57:29 GMT
Really wonder now, if the supporters trust do take over, and its a big if. But say they did you would imagine getting rid of Neil Lennon has to be top priority. I couldn't believe the team today, I can't believe this guy still thinks he can do the same thing week in and week out and all of a sudden we'll start winning games.
Dervite is handicapping us by at least two goals. Holding has shown that the kids, and they're not really kids are they, are capable of doing it.
I look at Lennons reactions to wins as well. The Rotherham game after the full time whistle blew. He looked like a kid who'd been told school was closed for snow. There's no belief in what he was doing. How is he not doubting himself by now?
There's no method there at all. He has one way and thats that. Its never worked so I don't know what he's holding on to. Bristol City and Rotherham have got new managers and i'm convinced that they'll get that boost to keep them up. If they do go down it won't be in place of us.
Back to the supporters trust, who will actually make those types of decisions?
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Post by andyl on Feb 14, 2016 3:10:43 GMT
Although I have no truck with Silva ' s childishness when subbed, why is Feeney never the one hooked?
Yesterday he had a poorish game culminating in a miss that was many times worse than the individual errors which caused goals against. He continually lost the ball in possession and made no headway in attack. He contributed to both goals moving infield for one and hitting a good free kick for the other but was an obvious candidate for removal arguably more so than Silva
I do not think there is a team in the league which would not use him intermittently except us. Why? I can see that he has commendable aspects to his game especially as an impact sub but so much is weak. And he leaves us so wide open
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Post by andyl on Feb 14, 2016 3:29:08 GMT
Re the manager ,ooomacron the short answer is the chairman with executive power from the board..and it is a shift from owner decisions. We are in a strange situation in our currentt limbo.It's hard to think that any other team in our situation would not have sacked Neil Lennon whose decisions and non - decisions have directly led to so many lost points and our league position.
It is frustrating. Selections and formations have cost us so many points when for much of the time we have played well - yesterday was like QPR away. Good game but counter attack paradise for the home team.Amos actually did well to prevent the 5-2/1I predicted at half time as a possible outcome alongside 2-3.
No team but us leaves itself deliberately that open? We could be doing so much better?
Marc Iles says that pluses included Clough ' s return. Not yesterday. He had no impact and lost the ball weakly. Woolery was better. Of course Heskey was exhausted by the time Clough came on. Alas Neil hadn't noticed that!
I really think that if he had started that game with an extra midfielder, with Woolery upfront and Feeney or Silva on the bench we'd have won that game. We don't know Moxey ' s explanation but Derik did more than enough to oust Dervite from centre half for the remainder of the season. Why did we not put faith in Casado when we could? Mistake upon mistake ;defeat upon defeat.!
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Post by davidm on Feb 14, 2016 9:49:49 GMT
We are in a strange situation in our currentt limbo.It's hard to think that any other team in our situation would not have sacked Neil Lennon whose decisions and non - decisions have directly led to so many lost points and our league position. It is frustrating. Selections and formations have cost us so many points when for much of the time we have played well - yesterday was like QPR away. Good game but counter attack paradise for the home team.Amos actually did well to prevent the 5-2/1I predicted at half time as a possible outcome alongside 2-3. I really think that if he had started that game with an extra midfielder, with Woolery upfront and Feeney or Silva on the bench we'd have won that game. We don't know Moxey ' s explanation but Derik did more than enough to oust Dervite from centre half for the remainder of the season. Why did we not put faith in Casado when we could? Mistake upon mistake ;defeat upon defeat.! I agree completely with you on this, Andy.
The slight return of confidence and hope for the rest of the season, from the 7 points from 3 games, has been wiped out by yesterday’s results.
Why oh why can we not devise of playing away from home that does not leave us wide open. MK Dons, probably the poorest team seen at the Macron this season apart from us, set up to “dig in” according to their manager and grabbed a 1-0 win at Derby. We just can’t do that with our manager.
How many times (probably after every match!) have loads of us said that we cannot play 4-3-3 with our lightweight wingers? We are just overrun in midfield.
How many times do we get caught o the break? Our team is so slow. Look at the first goal yesterday. Just a long ball up to the wide man who comprehensively outran Dervite and scored. Knockaert outpaced Spearing for the second, a goal which came from our attack. Both Dervite and Spearing should have taken yellow cards in those instances. If you don’t have the pace, you must stop the opponent.
How often do we fail to take the advantage in a match when it is offered? Bruno made an awful mess at 2-2 and left Feeney clean through. How bad a finish was that? He made no attempt to go round the keeper. He just shot straight into the keeper’s upright body. Truly bad.
Our manager has only one tactics which has failed us for most of the 35 matches this season.
There was a “quiz” question going the rounds a couple of weeks ago. What have Bolton Wanderers, Kidderminster Harriers and East Stirling have in common? The answer was “the only teams without an away win in British senior football”. Well Kidderminster and East Stirling have both won away now so we hold that record on our own now.
I despair for this season. 7 points adrift of safety with no Plan B for the rest of the season. It’s hard to see how we are to escape.
Yesterday could have been the day when Division 1 beckoned.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 10:13:55 GMT
We all hope we can stay up but we now need 3 wins just to get out of the bottom 3 so I think we should just take the 12 point loss sort the club out get shut of the shit in our team and start again in Div 1. Its been an uphill struggle all season we have never looked like a team that could stay up from the off. Only 4 points away from home at the moment is shocking it seems to be one thing after another roll on the 7th May when this season can be put to bed. Heart still hopes we can get out of this but head says not sorry.
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Post by flimwellfan on Feb 14, 2016 12:04:25 GMT
I was at the game which I really enjoyed. Not having seen the lads for yonks,apart from on the glass, I was very impressed by our play. We did not play like a team threatened with relegation. It was largely a game of cat and mouse because BHA play similar to us.OK we lost but I think Neil Lennon is trying to play to a system which the whole squad understand. We play a high line and pack midfield, in the hope that a mistake will release one of the wings. We don't appear to have a player with any real class or special talent but hard work makes up for a lot of short- comings, such as being one footed, and we have a few of those. I was pleased with the work rate of all the players.Emile is showing his age now but he played the full 90 and never gave up. So to answer the critics, all I can say is a settled side have a better chance of making our system work.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 14, 2016 12:37:09 GMT
What I really struggle with!!! We're bottom of the league, we've just equalised, twice, against a decent team, on their own turf and our player celebrations would have you believe we were already relegated 10 games ago!!
As davidm points out above, we were clearly on the up after a couple of decent results and improved confidence but with all those results going against us we're back where we belong.
And still Lennon is in a job!!! This can only happen at BWFC Whilst we've stuck with this ejit, Lee Johnson has managed 3 clubs and has had an immediate effect on two of them, what have we got to lose if we change gaffers now? Why can't we do the same and get rid of him for the last games of the season?
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Post by davidm on Feb 14, 2016 14:32:39 GMT
I was at the game which I really enjoyed. Not having seen the lads for yonks,apart from on the glass, I was very impressed by our play. We did not play like a team threatened with relegation. It was largely a game of cat and mouse because BHA play similar to us.OK we lost but I think Neil Lennon is trying to play to a system which the whole squad understand. We play a high line and pack midfield, in the hope that a mistake will release one of the wings. We don't appear to have a player with any real class or special talent but hard work makes up for a lot of short- comings, such as being one footed, and we have a few of those. I was pleased with the work rate of all the players.Emile is showing his age now but he played the full 90 and never gave up. So to answer the critics, all I can say is a settled side have a better chance of making our system work. This system will never work!!!! 35 games this season has proved that.
We do not pack midfield - we regularly have 3 in midfield against 4 or 5 opposition players.
If we had a packed midfield, as AndyL has often said, we would be defensively better but 17 goals conceded in the last 6 away games shows how poor we are.
It's fine that you enjoyed the match and we might well be providing entertaining matches but we are heading for relegation unless we change tactics.
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