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Post by wotsupnow on May 4, 2014 18:26:38 GMT
.. we're getting it blow by blow now folks... I don't know which thread to read next...
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Post by megsontilidie on May 4, 2014 19:07:48 GMT
Sorry BTID, your negativity is absolutely startling. You're accepting the utter mediocrity this excuse for a manager has thrust upon us and consigning us to another four or five years of the same. Did Sean Dyche take that long with a mediocre Burnley less his best striker? Did Nigel Clough or Tony Pullis not transform their existing squads and do it immediately? This clown has decimated a perfectly good squad, a squad more than good enough to have at the very least challenged for the play offs yet instead we feared the drop. But your timescales are probably right or even ambitious if we keep Freedman for that period. I've seen more than enough to know no amount of time will be long enough for someone so clearly devoid of the skills required to do the job in hand to make it work. We should get rid now whilst we have just enough left to at least rebuild and maybe challenge next year. Sorry but unlike you I'm not ready to consider the wilderness just yet. brilliant post Whites. i just don't see what BTID is basing his views on. blind faith ? do any of the Dougie lovers/keepers actually attend games. most people seem pretty reasonable, but it's easier to be forgiving if you're not watching that tripe. it's not as if it's Mourinho football..tripe that actually gets results. we've been in the bottom half ALL season. some of his signings have been quite good. but it''s the tactics, man management and team selection that are obviously lacking. Eagles has his faults but he was our topscorer last season. why hasn't he used him more this season...if only as an impact sub. he was building his team around him last season supposedly. i won't repeat my views on Knight as captain for the umpteenth time. a captain should embody the spirit of the manager on the pitch... in that respect Knight was THE PERFECT CHOICE.. lol. like you say Whites, look at Pulis (Megsons mucker ) tremendous job.. Palace had never stayed up in Prem before. he picks them up in perilous circumstances, and with no great budget, just endless "shape" work on the defence and the same guys are doing the Biz. i said in a previous post how similar he is to Moyes failings at man u & everton. Moyes had Ross Barkley..but didn't have the guts to play him. Martinez comes in and instantly plays him and he does well. Martinez sees what he CAN do , rather than looking at his limitations and worrying all the time. www1.skysports.com/football/news/11672/8672948/championship-bolton-boss-dougie-freedman-to-unleash-zach-cloughthis article is from April 2013....THAT'S 2013 remember not 2014....Freedman to unleash ZACH CLOUGH. He's someone we identified right away when I came through the door," Freedman told the Bolton News. "He's been travelling with the team and in squads and you're going to see someone you really like when he gets on the pitch. "I'm excited for you guys to see him because then you can start writing about it. "He's a great young guy who could just possibly help us through this last couple of games. "I love working with young players and it really makes my day to get them on the pitch. "Sometimes it's a crime in football just working with what you have got. I like working with someone like Zach - someone who you don't quite know what they've got, but it's something I like."remind me how many times we seen Clough (even though he's been excelling in the youth ranks/devt squad)....errr none. the guy is full of bull. it's a crime to just go with what you got!?! most people think Kellet & Threlkeld did well. White didn't do as great. remind me who signed him !?. why did we wait til we had dead games to play these kids. has he NO JUDGEMENT WHATSOEVER to make up his own mind without holding open trials. these are the same open trials he held when he first joined and did mega rotation ( apart from to Zat ! lol defies belief ). how many points did we drop then while DF faffed about with crazy experiments dropping people who had just scored etc. he threw away his own chance of play offs last season with that. his win % this season is 30%. thats exactly the same as Coyle had last season in ch'ship. and his points per game of 1.28 is even lower than Jimmy Phillips had (1.33 ). now he keeps blaming debt, well we had debt when he first came, and FFP was well known about too, so those excuses shouldn't be used. he accepted what he was getting into. get on with it, and stop moaning. i can't stand his attitude...get a win, and it's ALL down to him. lose and it's nothing to do with him...all outside factors..players not good enough, debt, ffp etc.
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Post by riochforthereebok on May 4, 2014 19:42:01 GMT
There's better people out of work than this ejit..
Pardew soon, Allardyce to follow!! Moyes Houghton Mowbray Warnock Rednapp after play off misery Steve Clarke Ince Davies Davey Jones Laudrum Mulensteen & Phealan great double act, not sure as first team bosses though, but deffo better than DF
Some believe that Eddie Howe started what Sean Dyce finished, would he be worth a shout?
How can we be inspired to be ready for the new season though with Freedman in charge?? We're just about to have new shirts designed for next season (Macron) so who is going to be buying these shirts and renewing season tickets after the season we've just had? Only a lame brain could back this divvy with their money. I'll be very surprised if we get 14000 crowds next term
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Post by megsontilidie on May 6, 2014 15:04:19 GMT
just a quick point on Threlkeld. having seen the tv highlights of the game again, Threlkeld, although he did well on the day & good at sheff wed, the 2 crosses for their goals both came down his side. he didn't stop either. I rate Wheater so hope i'm not being too blinded by not blaming him too much for the first goal. he did jump aggressively ( not just a token effort ) but Zigic's extra inches gave him the advantage he needed. as for the 2nd one, bit of a strange one. if Ream hadn't tripped over Lonergan & unable to jump, he may well have blocked the header by Caddis. & we had enough back but the likes of Knight weren't really picking up anybody. if Caddis had missed the chance, there was a guy reight behind him unmarked too. just baffling with so many back ! but basically it was caused by sitting back too deep, as usual.
interesting point i heard last night from Claridge re Liv. he said they try to score early, then sit back and pick them off on the counter. seeing as we aim to counter at the start, you'd think we'd extend leads more and more like they do. but when we sit back, it's like the Alamo !!!. granted Kellet's pace did create a couple of counters on sat'day but that's pretty untypical of the season, as we haven't had enough pace to play on the counter.
just another point re our counter attacking style. surely catenacchio is about controlling the game, even when you haven't got the ball. thats to me means, restricting oppositions shots at goal. like chelsea did at anfield or atletico medrid. well we conceded 9 shots on target..excluding zigic's disallowed goal which looked a touch soft. so again not only does this tactics not work offensively in terms of springing enough counters, it doesn't work defensively either. as Andy L pointed out, seeing as Brum had to come fwd, the chances for counters were there on paper, but not the first time, it flopped.
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Post by Pedro on May 6, 2014 20:06:57 GMT
I hadn't realised that we actually WON! Well done Chungy - two goals in the same minute when I must have blinked! They couldn't organise a ...............brewery. From the Official "Wanderers player" site Highlights: Bolton Wanderers 3 – 2 Birmingham City Sky Bet Championship, Sat 03 May 2014, 12:15, 19,558 Bolton Lee (57) , Lee (57) , Jutkiewicz (76) 3 - 2 Birmingham Birmingham Zigic (78) , Caddis (93)
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Post by megsontilidie on May 9, 2014 20:12:48 GMT
just testing this..embedding a video. another good feature of this forum if it works. just watch Zat from 1.07 onwards...seeing as Zigic had outjumpred Wheater for their 1st goal, you'd think Zat might stick near Zigic to "negate" him....but oh no. god knows what i'll post about next season...can't think of a player that has come close to annoying me as much as him. if he's 10 out of 10 for annoyance.. no-one else is above 3...possible exception of Ngog 4 !.
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