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Post by wotsupnow on May 3, 2014 23:53:19 GMT
Did you vote in the Freedman Knight OUT!!! poll Pedro?...
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Post by Pedro on May 3, 2014 23:55:04 GMT
Did you vote in the Freedman Knight OUT!!! poll Pedro?... Yup - both out sick of them
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Post by Trotter on May 4, 2014 6:57:05 GMT
That will do for me then if Pedro says Dougie should go, the fact is he will not go unless he deserts his post, regarding the playing style though Leicester City started the season being a boring team then confidence with wins meant they were more easy on the eye, so if Dougie and his team get a good start all our thoughts will change, there is nothing better than a winning team.
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on May 4, 2014 7:08:33 GMT
Whole different ball game next season
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Post by whitesince63 on May 4, 2014 7:45:15 GMT
You're right BTID and we shouldn't pre judge, for the first time in a long time we'll have a manager who has his own team and no blame to predecessors or whinges about money or other restraints. We know finances will be tight but that applies to most clubs at our level. Next season we'll see exactly what Freedman's made of but how confident can you say you really are??
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Post by bonaparte on May 4, 2014 11:06:08 GMT
Pedro My pal and I left. No brainer. Andy, You ( and Deluded Dougie) see something in Trotter that I do not. Yes he was there to receive the ball from Chong Yung and pass to Jutkiewicz, a simple no brainer pass that I could have made. But nothing else. No tackles, no marking, no moving into space. He adds nothing to the game for me, bring back Medo.
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on May 4, 2014 14:21:11 GMT
You're right BTID and we shouldn't pre judge, for the first time in a long time we'll have a manager who has his own team and no blame to predecessors or whinges about money or other restraints. We know finances will be tight but that applies to most clubs at our level. Next season we'll see exactly what Freedman's made of but how confident can you say you really are?? It depends what you're expecting whites ? If your fully expecting promotion or a definite place in the playoffs or 100 points 100 goals then it is going to be a highly disappointing season for you. i emailed 6 months ago on the BN that a serious push for promotion with a strong enough team is going to be between 3 & 5 yrs away IMO. realistically we need to be setting our sites lower in the immediate future because it's a serious rebuilding and regrouping job. With the financial constraints of the FFP and youth teamers getting nearer, it's also going to need another 4-5 transfer windows. I still think Dougie is the man to build a strong base from grass roots youngsters, no doubt in my mind whatsoever. That's a major part of the business plan, probably the main part. He can and will achieve that. This is the time now that major earners will be off the books. Should give him more flexibility. Can he then transform that all the way to the first team to get us into the premiership again ? Quite possibly. If he does it's going to take time. Could he then keep us there ? Impossible to say. Bigger and more experienced managers have failed.
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Post by wotsupnow on May 4, 2014 14:32:49 GMT
... and I said on the BN, that we won't see the PL again in my lifetime... and that's giving it 20 years... if I'm that lucky... We'll be a mid table championship club for many years to come...
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on May 4, 2014 14:40:28 GMT
Mid championship club for foreseeable. Give it three to five years we'll be a top five championship club. Your right though apart from the odd year in the prem here n there, that's probably our level. Top five championship to bottom half prem.
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Post by whitesince63 on May 4, 2014 16:37:43 GMT
You're right BTID and we shouldn't pre judge, for the first time in a long time we'll have a manager who has his own team and no blame to predecessors or whinges about money or other restraints. We know finances will be tight but that applies to most clubs at our level. Next season we'll see exactly what Freedman's made of but how confident can you say you really are?? It depends what you're expecting whites ? If your fully expecting promotion or a definite place in the playoffs or 100 points 100 goals then it is going to be a highly disappointing season for you. i emailed 6 months ago on the BN that a serious push for promotion with a strong enough team is going to be between 3 & 5 yrs away IMO. realistically we need to be setting our sites lower in the immediate future because it's a serious rebuilding and regrouping job. With the financial constraints of the FFP and youth teamers getting nearer, it's also going to need another 4-5 transfer windows. I still think Dougie is the man to build a strong base from grass roots youngsters, no doubt in my mind whatsoever. That's a major part of the business plan, probably the main part. He can and will achieve that. This is the time now that major earners will be off the books. Should give him more flexibility. Can he then transform that all the way to the first team to get us into the premiership again ? Quite possibly. If he does it's going to take time. Could he then keep us there ? Impossible to say. Bigger and more experienced managers have failed. Sorry BTID, your negativity is absolutely startling. You're accepting the utter mediocrity this excuse for a manager has thrust upon us and consigning us to another four or five years of the same. Did Sean Dyche take that long with a mediocre Burnley less his best striker? Did Nigel Clough or Tony Pullis not transform their existing squads and do it immediately? This clown has decimated a perfectly good squad, a squad more than good enough to have at the very least challenged for the play offs yet instead we feared the drop. But your timescales are probably right or even ambitious if we keep Freedman for that period. I've seen more than enough to know no amount of time will be long enough for someone so clearly devoid of the skills required to do the job in hand to make it work. We should get rid now whilst we have just enough left to at least rebuild and maybe challenge next year. Sorry but unlike you I'm not ready to consider the wilderness just yet.
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on May 4, 2014 16:55:25 GMT
Really don't want to swear but you really are a feckin joke some days whites ??!!!
My negativity ??
Laughable !
Your enough to depress a feckin lottery winner with your negative outlook on life sunshine !!!
GET REAL HE IS HERE TO STAY !!!!!!
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on May 4, 2014 17:07:20 GMT
Just for the record I am not accepting mediocrity I am accepting that other realistic issues exist.
Thankfully this summer, a number of high earners are at the end of their contracts. First rung of the ladder next season to begin a total rebuild.
I don't give two shites what anyone thinks of my opinions, time will tell !
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Post by whitesince63 on May 4, 2014 17:15:14 GMT
Really don't want to swear but you really are a feckin joke some days whites ??!!! My negativity ?? Laughable ! Your enough to depress a feckin lottery winner with your negative outlook on life sunshine !!! GET REAL HE IS HERE TO STAY !!!!!! Wash your mouth out BTID. Look, if caring about my club is negative. If detesting the individual who's dragging us down is negative. If wanting something much better is negative. If believing in giving our youth a chance, wanting to see exciting football, regretting the waste of our previously talented squad is negative, then yes I'm guilty, I'm negative. but I'd still rather be that than some myopic, Dougie apologist like you BTID. this cretin's destroying our club and if you can't see the damage he's already done I'd rather be negative than a happy clappy like you seem to be. Lighten up, we all want the same thing in the end, just disagree on how to get it.
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on May 4, 2014 17:18:52 GMT
But we don't all have a seriously unhealthy repetitive syndrome disorder whites
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on May 4, 2014 17:21:22 GMT
No.1 I've never apologised for or excused Dougie No.2 I'm certainly not happy with our current situation
Your facts right? Nope !
youre becoming delirious whites
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