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Post by OohMac on Nov 17, 2015 18:37:10 GMT
Latest from the club is that Gartside is seriously ill.
Its a weird story, timing is as strange as anything else. No details given but he's entitled to his privacy.
Cynically I see Blatter is also dealing with an illness, which I can't help but draw a few similarities with. Especially the media blackout. I've personally seen Gartside in and around the ground recently and this was at a time when he refused to deal with the media.
The negotiations have raised more question marks. I think the fans on a whole will be fairly cynical with this report.
I do believe that this is Phil Gartside's connection with Bolton all but complete now. Along with Eddie Davies.
Hard to summarise. I've tried to be diplomatic. Maybe I'd be adding up 2 and 2 and getting 5 so i'll keep my opinions fairly close to my chest but I will say that this is another twist in the tale, or another development on the takeover story. That story has had little coverage on any other site and nothing on here. Took that to mean people were not fully believing the stories they were hearing.
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Post by andyl on Nov 17, 2015 22:12:54 GMT
Nothing really to get to grips with in the overall story. And nothing new. We have no money and rack up debt.
Whatever anyone may think of Phil G and his contribution he must in context have been under massive stress and that cannot have helped whatever he is suffering from
With luck Birch may facilitate a period of transition and steer us away from the rocks..but it's obvious that the situation is pretty grim and that stifles discussion.
What's needed is an on field win at Reading and we may just get it if we set up as England did tonight with five in midfield, do not rely on wingers and try to keep the ball and counter attack
I'm not sure either Neil or the players can do this but we will see
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Post by riochforthereebok on Nov 17, 2015 23:28:11 GMT
In terms of the survival of BWFC Phil Gartside has overseen failure after failure and for that, I can't wait to see the back of him, but I'm human and I also wish him the best of health
Apparently Amir Khan is involved in the takeover as well.
Peter Kay and Paddy McGuinness not interested then??!
By the way OooMac, how comes I read your story within minutes of you posting and yet the BN only posted a couple of hours ago?? Who's your source??
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Post by Trotter on Nov 18, 2015 12:32:49 GMT
Get well soon Phil Gartside, that is the message any decent person would say, I also guess that the stress of being chairman of BWFC at this difficult time has contributed to his illness but that's me guessing all in all and everything said I feel we will not see him take his post up again with us.
Amir Khan i hope he is not going to fleece us.
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Post by OohMac on Nov 18, 2015 13:40:32 GMT
Personally I don't understand why Gartside waited for so long to call it a day. Fair enough if he felt like he could take Bolton back up, which he did under Coyle, remember his 2 points a game plan but it was blatantly obvious that when Freedman went he should have been the one to go too. Dougie took all the flack and paid the price. I think Gartside should have gone a long time ago.
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Post by kazooki on Nov 18, 2015 20:12:52 GMT
From what I have been told this is not something that he will get well soon from and he doesn't have a great deal of time left, up to a month  I cannot quote my source but it is very genuine. A career that started off so well with Big Sam on what would now be considered a stupidly huge 10 year contract and many years of what we all consider unprecedented success to the abyss of ruin |
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Post by realtrottersforever on Nov 18, 2015 20:19:50 GMT
That's just shocking if true, hope it's not. Get well soon Phil.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Nov 18, 2015 22:54:31 GMT
Get well soon indeed but please ....
Bring back the Birch - NO TO KHAN..
People been following the Trotters for decades and suddenly, some pretend 20 odd year old 'Wanderer', who incidentally didn't re new his season ticket and bailed out when we turned 5hit, now wants to upsell himself and thrust his name back into the limelight to boost his ego. I'm not really fussed if he wants to use the ReeMac for fighting, personally, I think that ship has sailed anyway and there are better fighters out there, so no way, stay away and let's hope this Trevor Birch finds some decent buyers.
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Post by OohMac on Nov 19, 2015 13:27:32 GMT
Lennon: "It's a huge blow not only professionally for me but also personally because Phil has been my boss but he's also been a very good friend," he added.
"Obviously we're concerned about him and we're hoping that he has a speedy recovery - I was speaking to him yesterday and he said he was feeling good which is a great sign."
Still second guessing but from this I don't get the impression its as serious as Kazooki made out.
Phil and Neil very good friends, Garty must be a real people person because as a boss he's been useless. Told a lot of lies along the way and pretty much hung the last few managers out to dry.
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Post by andyl on Nov 19, 2015 14:09:38 GMT
I have no doubt at all that he is a good people person. I've only spoken with him a couple of times and found him friendly and personable. Others I know find the same. The debate re his management skills and achievements is unrelated
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Post by OohMac on Nov 19, 2015 16:48:55 GMT
I find his lack of accountability shocking. His silence to the media hasn't helped his portrayal especially when he was so extrovert when we were flying high and the interview he gave to Marc Iles last season has been shown to be a pack of lies. Most already knew that already.
He's backed the wrong men at the wrong time instead and held out on the good ones we've got.
I can't lie now or pretend that I trust him because I simply don't. At all. I believe he must be quite hard faced still collecting the biggest salary of any chairman in this league. Of course I hope he makes a recovery then stays out of football, but if this club folds he will be the main if not sole reason for me.
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Post by kazooki on Nov 20, 2015 0:30:44 GMT
Lennon: "It's a huge blow not only professionally for me but also personally because Phil has been my boss but he's also been a very good friend," he added. "Obviously we're concerned about him and we're hoping that he has a speedy recovery - I was speaking to him yesterday and he said he was feeling good which is a great sign." Still second guessing but from this I don't get the impression its as serious as Kazooki made out. Phil and Neil very good friends, Garty must be a real people person because as a boss he's been useless. Told a lot of lies along the way and pretty much hung the last few managers out to dry. Well, I can only say that my sources are not the kind of people nor in a position to spread idle gossip. I for one hope they are completely wrong and he makes a full recovery and if so this is most definitely his queue to leave and enjoy everything he has. Best of luck Phil and get well soon. |
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Nov 20, 2015 13:41:00 GMT
He reminds me of an ex boss of mine. All smiles where it matters and then the mask falls off.
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Post by OohMac on Nov 30, 2015 20:50:04 GMT
Was cynical at the time and didn't want to be insensitive but Mr Gartside has jumped a sinking ship. This not paying the players but paying £1M on agents fee's. He waited until the very end to get out. Took ample amount of money with him.
I wonder if the agent involved in these fee's was his very own agent, who told Mr Gartside who should be our next managers. Heard nothing about his illess but yet we hear Per Frandsens actual illness. Fair enough he is entitled to his space and privacy but it seems like the worst cover up and looks very much like that to me.
I have a feeling these type of headlines will come thick and fast and the truth of Gartside's reign will all come out. Of course he won't be held accountable. He's not well.
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Post by kazooki on Dec 4, 2015 0:07:59 GMT
I heard today that his illness is a brain tumour, apparently he complained of a headache whilst at a negotiation meeting regarding selling the club.
And from the same source I heard that we're close to selling up to some arabs.
Believe of those snippets what you will, I can't confirm the source other than someone who deals with the club who is apparently friendly with someone who works there who's high up so it could be just a rumour.
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