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Post by modfishy on Nov 5, 2015 12:01:30 GMT
Some interesting comments in the BN this morning about Lennons opinion of the players performance on Tuesday in the second half at Ipswich. It's a fine line between saying what you think and risk losing the dressing room and not saying anything. I'm actually with Neil Lennon and believe that if a player isn't playing to best of his ability then he needs to be told or even as a group, if the team isn't playing well, then the same needs to be said, there's only so much arm around the shoulder you can do, remember Sordel! It'll be interesting to see how they play on Saturday in the crucial game against Bristol City and whether the public critisism will have the right effect or the team rebels further and the nightmare continues! On the whole I feel sorry for Lennon and what he has had to deal with financially but the aspect of the team not playing at their best is down to him and whether this is his attempt to put that right I don't know, fingers crossed it is and it works!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2015 14:09:38 GMT
I also found it very interesting also the story about him not knowing why there is no money to spend ,I began to get the feeling that some thing is in the pipe line either some one will pack it in or there is new money on the way the whole tone of the article gave me a very upsetting feeling the strange thing is I'am not sure why ? has anybody else read the story and got the same feeling ? .
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Post by bonaparte on Nov 5, 2015 16:29:04 GMT
Ed and Gartside are still getting their money, so why do they need to bother? The real estate will cover any outlay ED has made so the football is secondary.
NL is a the author of his own position. He continues to select players that add little value to the team, and clearly his defence coaching leaves a lot to be desired. He has some young players at his disposal, but prefers to rely on ageing ex stars such as Heskey and Ameobi. When Big Sam brought in older players e.g Bergsson, Okocha, Hierro, etc they made up in class and skill for what they lacked in pace and energy. Sorry, but Heskey and Ameobi cannot hold a candle.
If ED won't go to NL, why will NL not go to him, after all he came to Bolton as a rising young superstar manager and looks like leaving as a failure.
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Post by thegrud1 on Nov 5, 2015 20:06:57 GMT
About time Neil picked up the phone and contacted Davies personally ....whats Gartside gonna do sack him....dont think so....despereate times need desperate measures
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 5, 2015 23:38:03 GMT
By all accounts ED is in no physical condition to answer the phone let alone run the club. Clearly his family who now seem to be in charge, have no intest in the club, which is probably why Gartside is still in charge and keeping things going. That said we're basically broke so there is no money to come for Lennon anyway, unless a new owner comes in. Why Lennon isn't aware of that when it's patently obvious to everyone else concerns me, because comments like that and castigating his players tells me he's had enough and is looking for a way out. He does of course have one but won't take it and walk because that would cost him money. Something has to give and probably sooner rather than later.
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Post by modfishy on Nov 6, 2015 11:06:24 GMT
It appears there is no money in the pot until a new buyer comes in (if ever) so Neil has to work with what he's got. He must have been given a few promises about finances before he joined, that haven't materialised, I'm just unsure whether lambasting the players is a good way forward as once you've lost the players respect and they don't want to play for you then that's it, we're doomed and he may as well walk away. I don't think we would do any better than him at the moment however and can't see anybody wanting to come and manage this club in it's current state.
I really hope and am praying that the players do pull their socks up and get us a good win this weekend, I'd love a 4-0 but be more than happy with a 1-0 and 3 very very valuable points!
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Post by realtrottersforever on Nov 6, 2015 14:58:16 GMT
By all accounts ED is in no physical condition to answer the phone let alone run the club. Clearly his family who now seem to be in charge, have no intest in the club, which is probably why Gartside is still in charge and keeping things going. That said we're basically broke so there is no money to come for Lennon anyway, unless a new owner comes in. Why Lennon isn't aware of that when it's patently obvious to everyone else concerns me, because comments like that and castigating his players tells me he's had enough and is looking for a way out. He does of course have one but won't take it and walk because that would cost him money. Something has to give and probably sooner rather than later. What do you base that on whitesince63? I can see ED in the director's box every game. If he isn't fit to answer the phone, how is he fit enough to travel back and forth from the Isle of Man? |
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 6, 2015 18:58:38 GMT
By all accounts ED is in no physical condition to answer the phone let alone run the club. Clearly his family who now seem to be in charge, have no intest in the club, which is probably why Gartside is still in charge and keeping things going. That said we're basically broke so there is no money to come for Lennon anyway, unless a new owner comes in. Why Lennon isn't aware of that when it's patently obvious to everyone else concerns me, because comments like that and castigating his players tells me he's had enough and is looking for a way out. He does of course have one but won't take it and walk because that would cost him money. Something has to give and probably sooner rather than later. What do you base that on whitesince63? I can see ED in the director's box every game. If he isn't fit to answer the phone, how is he fit enough to travel back and forth from the Isle of Man? Obviously I'm mistaken rtf I was led to believe his health had deteriorated recently but I stand corrected. Don't know why he bothers turning up though, if he's really a fan he would surely have done something about the current state of affairs. |
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Post by OohMac on Nov 6, 2015 20:17:43 GMT
I've been flip flopping all week truth be told. After the PNE game I was livid with the post-match comments. "We played well 2nd half/Sky Sports News loop showed us having the chances" we were awful and I didn't think Lennon would try and kid anyone that we were different.
His comments after Ipswich have given me a bit more faith. Saying everything is fine and dandy won't get us any where. The players need to realise things won't change unless they change them. Making mistake after mistake and being told "don't worry, you were great but unlucky" what sort of message is that. Fair enough, a one off match where you have been unlucky but 1 win in 15. Enough with the carrot its time for the stick(that's not a personal attack on our strawberry blonde manager btw)
He's said he's frustrated at the lack of money. What little he has had he's wasted but then again he's had to take a chance on players on the cheap and so far these gambles are not paying off. Right back is a perfect example. If he'd have gone and spent £20K a week on a loan player/bosman we may have got a solid defender but we can't afford that so we go for Wilson on £7k a week and because he failed Lennon thinks he needs Pisano on 11k a week. Same with strikers, i'm not sure if they wanted a fee for Hooper but if it was wages only we'd have been much better on going with Hooper instead of Dobbie, Madine and Heskey.
I want to see Lennon show more passion, he needs help of his staff too, they don't seem eager to make any impressions on the touchline. Think we are missing Mjalby too.
We need to stick with Lennon and I will so long as he keeps giving it his all and stops trying to con the fans because that never worked for Megson, Coyle, Freedman. Lennon is probably due a little more time because he overachieved last season, then Gartside asset stripped us as much as he could and Lennon nodded and let it happen on the promise he could do this and that and now Lennon's finally realised he's been hung out to dry. Its his reputation on the line and that's why he's the man for the job still, he needs to come out fighting. New managers will already have their hard luck stories ready. Neil knows his whole career is hanging in the balance. The next 12 games will be vital.
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