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Post by realtrottersforever on Sept 18, 2015 10:47:28 GMT
I think my first ever match thread Seeing as we seem to be doing much better in defence, I might actually predict a clean sheet, or is that being too optimistic? But to temper my optimism we are doing pathetically up-front so do I predict a dour 0-0 draw? Dependent on who NL plays up front, does he persist with Madine as a lone striker, or does he start with Heskey in that role? Heskey is never going to score goals so I would never play him up front on his own so I personally would partner him with Dobbie, who could feasibly feed off the knock downs that Heskey would invariably win, more so than Madine. If that was the case I could be uber optimistic and go for a 1-0 Wanderers win. I just hope he doesn't decide to play Heskey and Madine together. So I think I will stick all my eggs in one basket, won't count my chickens until they hatch, will keep my powder dry and my cards close to my chest and leave it in the lap of the Gods to decide what the outcome will be.
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Post by one2many on Sept 18, 2015 13:04:59 GMT
Following on from that....we are up the creek without a paddle (or at least without a goalscorer)
Seeing that i got the last result spot on, not that anyone congratulated me ahemm ahemm, I will stick with 0-0 as it seems to serve me well.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 18, 2015 18:15:11 GMT
Some decent boozers in Huddy and some reet friendly yokels as well but sadly a slender defeat I'm suspecting Possibly a penalty or direct free kick. Just hope it's not a yawn 1-0
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Sept 18, 2015 18:21:18 GMT
Another sh17y 0-0 or 1-1
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 19, 2015 15:37:06 GMT
What do I know about football?? Slender victory?? 3-1 down 73 mins Oh dear
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 19, 2015 15:51:20 GMT
Lennon Out Floyd Hasselbaink in ;( Can't support NL any longer. Please don't have a go at me members, but this is poor. The warning signs were evident in pre season, we can't score goals, we've not invested what little cash we have wisely and we failed to get proven players, that have already treated the hallowed turf at the ReeMac in on permanent deals. Huddersfield were sacking Chris Powell last week, you can always bank on Bolton to give the opposition boss a stay of execution. JFH is doing a tremendous job with nobodies over at Burton Albion. Let's swap bosses now before it's too late, NL did his best for us but it's not good enough any longer
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Post by davidm on Sept 19, 2015 18:43:31 GMT
A real shambolic gutless performance.
We set off really well. Moxey played the “pass of the season” from the left back position to Feeney who was clear on the right and Feeney ran on and scored well. After only 2 minutes – nearly a repeat of last season’s first minute goal.
Heskey lasted 10 mins before giving up – surely a condemnation of signing a 37 year old to lead the attack.
We then dominated for 20+ minutes. We kept position well between Davis, Danns and the back four and hardly gave Huddersfield a sniff. But, and this is an enormous BUT, we created practically nothing. All our possession was around the halfway line and we rarely got any further forward.
Slowly but surely, Huddersfield got back into it. Prince miskicked onto his own crossbar, Amos swiped a foot at and missed Derik’s backpass and so nearly conceded but still Huddersfield did not look likely to score.
Then, as last season, we conceded more or less on half time. Derik conceded a corner when it looked like it had already gone for a goal kick. Everyone, mainly Wellington, fell asleep for a shortish corner to the edge of the box and somehow a very slow shot trickled into the corner of the net. Amos may have been unsighted because he made a hash of it but there was no one covering the near post nor anyone watching the guy on the edge of the box. A terrible goal to concede.
At that moment, I knew we wouldn’t win as there was no hope of us scoring another.
Second half, and we started with 10 men. Prince rushing on to the pitch a minute after kick off and immediately conceding a good chance which then started off a rotten performance for the rest of the match.
Within a few minutes, their winger was allowed all the time he needed to shoot from outside the box and score – absolutely no closing down. Danns then got caught in possession deep in our half, Huddersfield crossed and everyone was out of position for a guy on the right to score and then Wilson gave the ball away at the edge of the area for another goal.
Derik then proved he has no brains (see Dervite at Blackburn) with a stupid second yellow and our 3rd red card in 8 games.
Overall – an absolutely dispiriting second half. We were awful and, worryingly, gutless when Huddersfield stepped up and pressed our midfield who proceeded to give the ball away endlessly.
We played a 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 formation with Dobbie as our extra midfield man which gave us possession in the first half but no goal threat at all as first Heskey and then Madine were isolated 15 to 20 yards away from the midfield.
Marks (which would have been 8s and 9s after first 20 mins)
Amos - 6 Made a hash of a backpass, seem slow on the first goal but made some decent saves.
Wilson - 5 Terrible mistake for no 4. Some good forward runs
Moxey - 7 Magnificent pass for our goal and reasonably solid despite the second half mayhem around him.
Prince - 4 Hits his own bar in first half but good then for most of first half but shambolic in second half. If he was ill at half time, he should not have been allowed back on. Awful second half.
Derik - 2 Stupid sending off. He had been booked, then warned after more fouls but still kept on.
Danns - 4 First half fine but too deep. He did put one excellent shot in just wide. Second half, they harried him and just took the ball off him.
Davies - 4 Same as Danns – too deep. Passed well but created nothing.
Feeney - 4 Excellent goal but then he could have come off as he was no use after that.
Wellington - 3 I can’t think of anything that he did to get us excited. Just anonymous.
Dobbie - 4 Did not play in the Clough no 10 role. He played deeper which worked for a while first half. Second half just dreadful passing.
Heskey - 3 Why do we play a 37 year old??
Madine - 4 Came on a sub and was totally isolated. Ran well but nothing worked.
Walker - 4 Got tackled and lost the ball every time he had it.
Manager - 3 We can have all the possession in the world but if 10 of your 11 players play so deep, you will rarely win.
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Sept 19, 2015 18:57:47 GMT
Wow... A scathing report that is... I was only reading lennons piece a few hours before the game about how 'we are slowly getting things right'
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Post by davidm on Sept 19, 2015 19:04:25 GMT
Wow... A scathing report that is... I was only reading lennons piece a few hours before the game about how 'we are slowly getting things right' It really was shambolic! We had the game for the winning as we had nearly all the possession in the first half but until we can create and take chances, we will struggle. I don' t think that I'll be the only one moaning. The team were actually booed off when the whistle went.
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Post by spanishjonny on Sept 19, 2015 21:09:33 GMT
After we scored we didn't really create anything else, it was the same old same old.
We got the battering we should have got against Sheffield Wednesday
I hope the new assistant manager Walford can lift Lennons spirit because I fear he's losing the will to turn BWFC around When he took over he was a young upcoming manager looking to further his reputation in England but he's hit a brick wall here Today for the last 15mins he sat on his hands in the dugout, no ranting and raving, never used his last sub until Derick decided he'd get the early bus home, he won't give Vela or Spearing a chance, and why did he buy Twardzic? Twardzic? Sticking with the same tired 4-4-1-1 is not making full use of the limited talent he has, Dobbie was even less effective than Clough and Madine must wish he was back inside, Feeny and Silva just sling crosses in without looking and none of them will have a shot! Mark Davies and Danns kept going till the end and that's about it! Top of the league up next!
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Post by andyl on Sept 20, 2015 6:10:19 GMT
Happily I couldn't go to this one but such a game was inevitable. You cannot set up a lightweight team with no aerial capacity in a formation with two party entertainers on the flanks and no midfielders who will shoot . Spanishjonny is quite right that this was a deferred beating
It must now be obvious to all that Neil is tactically naive and his words are now inseparable from Dougie's last- he is telling us the players aren't good enough
We are more surely on a path towards relegation than we were last year? Can Neil arrest the decline as he and his last three predecessors have managed once.? Or is this now it? With Brighton and QPR next up there must be a chance that we will be anchored at the bottom in two weeks time. Even if not it looks like a relegation dogfight all season...again!
i cling to a hope that Neil has shown other managerial skills that his predecessors lacked. And that Pratley, Wheater and Clayton will strengthen us?
Twardzik? The guy who offered a cameo at Derby nodded a deft headed goal and was rewarded with a left back slot at Forest. No he's in the not to be picked corner with Spearing, Vela and Trotter?
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Post by BWFCTILIDIE on Sept 20, 2015 8:45:46 GMT
Wow... A scathing report that is... I was only reading lennons piece a few hours before the game about how 'we are slowly getting things right' It really was shambolic! We had the game for the winning as we had nearly all the possession in the first half but until we can create and take chances, we will struggle. I don' t think that I'll be the only one moaning. The team were actually booed off when the whistle went. Lennon is coming across desperate to me? A bit like sammy lee (Rabbit in headlights) kind of lost look. He's already admitted he's been doubting his own ability to manage at this level which surely doesn't fill the players with confidence? Players playing out of position, players playing that shouldn't be and players not getting a game who should be? Definitely isn't sitting well with me at the moment. I'm not in the 'sack Lennon club' but the situation seems to be deteriorating at break neck speed. Yes he's a likeable guy but is he any better than Doog?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 10:39:21 GMT
as I've said before NL is on a steep learning curve and is not learning very fast . why do we have to have a big man up front ? cant we play 4-4-2 and pass our way forward ? watched Watford last night and they did just that often stringing 10 or 12 passes together , football is a very simple game ,get the ball pass to one of your side and move into position for a return pass SIMPLES.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 20, 2015 18:37:28 GMT
I've said this before and I'll repeat it because we are not learning but we have a real issue with playing away from home. Only Backpool lost more games on the road than us last season. Even the other two relegated teams won more points. It just doesn't work. I can't blame Lennon completely for that but he's not really improved it. I question too whether our home form is down to better preparation or just visiting teams being more happy to sit back and take a draw from a club like us. I think the teams that came to attack at The Macron usually left with the points. Plenty of games were quite dull with little chances created.
In Neils purple patch we played some excellent attacking football and got some great results. It just doesn't look like the same team, i know we lost Chung Lee who was pivotal but we still have a few options there.
We're still picking up injuries on a regular basis, too many to suggest this is a weird coincidence must need to start asking some questions of medical staff, conditions, etc added to that our discipline seems to be getting worse. Red cards in positions we can't afford to lose players in.
The players that Lennon is bringing in seem to be of a better quality than Dougie and Coyle brought before him. There's a few duds Twardzik whos getting paid for nothing and juries still out on Dobbie and Madine. I've got confidence that Neil can turn it around especially if we can get Clayton, Pratley and Wheater back but 1 point and 1 goal away from home means we'll be definitely in the relegation mix. We probably would have gone down last season if not for that aforementioned "purple patch".
Calls to sack him are just ridiculous 1. we can't afford these gardening leave pay offs 2. no manager in their right mind will take this job on now and they can't get much more from the players the quality is just not there.
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Post by Trotter on Sept 21, 2015 6:38:42 GMT
Trying not to post too early after a horrible result just in case I came across bitter, saying that I cannot find any positive words to say, being a Bolton fan at the moment is not much fun, roll on the next game.
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