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Post by andyl on Aug 8, 2015 20:23:35 GMT
On a more academic point we had an example of the new offside law! Second half a Derby forward looped a shot to the far post beyond Amos. An offside forward dived in with raised foot to try to convert it and missed the ball. This year offside was given by the linesman..and would have been had the shot gone in as it nearly did. Last year a goal if scored would have been given as the player would have been deemed inactive. A good law change ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2015 22:53:06 GMT
Just got in I have had a great day/night out the super whites picked up a point on the second half should have been 3 been on the ale since 19.45 what a day o-o against the money men keep it up you white men.
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Post by westandlower on Aug 9, 2015 13:10:47 GMT
Just a few quick comments.
I thought Amos was nervous. Didn't seem assured from his body language and his kicking was poor. Hopefully just first game nerves. Moxey, indeed did have his best game for us yet. Prince had a fantastic debut considering how long he has trained with us. I was just a little bit worried that he was too close to Moxey and too far from Dervite but in the end it did not matter. Thought he was lucky to get away with a foul in our box in the first half. Didn't see any appeal though and ref was probably looking through a crowd to see the incident. Wilson was ok defensively but his crosses were as bad as Feeney's. Pratley was out of position on the left and not as effective as he is through the middle. Spearing had his best game for ages - keep it up. Was it a dive? I don't think so and his punching the ground looked to indicate frustration with himself that he fell over. Danns - plenty of energy. Didn't give it away as frequently as he has done. Feeney - has to improve his crossing. Seems to hit a defender 9 time out of 10 Clough - Testing time for the lad. Is he the real deal or not? The next few weeks will tell. Knocked off the ball too easily, looked to the ref for help but not given and not deserved - got to be stronger. Our least effective player on the day. Madine competent display. Wasn't able to kill the ball on his chest and had no one to flick the ball on to. Fantastic the way he seemed to hang for the first header onto the bar. Worked hard.
Manager - I thought we might lose this one and I would not have been too upset if we had done as I see Derby finishing in the top 3 but he chose the right tactics and we could have nicked it. Having said that Derby had four clear chances; one Amos saved with his feet and fortunately, the others all flew high wide and handsome. Thought he should have brought Clough off sooner and tried either Davies or Dobbie.
I'll be going to the MK Dons game which I thought, pre-season would be an away banker. Them having scored 4 yesterday though, I'm not so sure now. At least Hall won't be available to knock it in from 12 inches.
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Post by joanna on Aug 9, 2015 14:02:24 GMT
Here's a copy of a section of a report from the current Lion of Vienna blog: Hope the writer is not referring to you, Andy L!!
"Alongside Madine, I thought Feeney impressed in patches as well. His pace was a threat, he just needs to work on his final ball and have a little more composure when he gets the chance to shoot. A 'supporter' near me in the crowd yesterday had a running campaign of abuse aimed at Feeney - even having a go at him when other players lost the ball!! - which I found wholly unacceptable given he really put a shift in for the team yesterday."
I notice that the BWFC site also praised Liam for initiating a string of attacks, especially in the first half
It seems there always has to be a "boo-boy" for the Bolton fans to hate. It has been Pratley and Moxey (and several others who are now no longer at the club), now Danns and Dervite as well as Feeney. We'd do well to get behind ALL the current squad, especially so early in a new season.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Aug 10, 2015 10:44:25 GMT
Well I wouldn't take anything on the LOV at face value, they are usually rubbish.
And that fan could just as easily have been me, although no-one needed to blame him when other players lost the ball, because he did enough of it himself, and as AndyL pointed out he tried a fancy Dan back heel, not once but twice and lost the ball on both occasions, the first turning our attack into a breakaway for them.
I thought a draw was a fair result, what with our efforts hitting the woodwork and Derby's profligacy in front of goal.
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Post by andyl on Aug 10, 2015 11:25:08 GMT
If rtf and I are in agreement it just takes one more for triangulation. No one has rushed to Feeney's defence here? He was quite awful and it has to be worrying or at least disconcerting that Neil has faith in him?
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Post by realtrottersforever on Aug 10, 2015 15:02:03 GMT
I think we have our triangulation AndyL as david m said in his report "Feeney 1 (quite dreadful!!)"...lol
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Post by joanna on Aug 10, 2015 15:51:23 GMT
If you look back a bit more carefully, RTF, you will see that david m actually gives Feeney 5 out of 10. I think you are referring to the section of david's post where he is still quoting Andy L. Mind you, I don't disagree with david's point that Liam F is not really up to the standard needed, but 1 mark is harsh!!
In any case, the point of my remarks was that we Boltonians like a good moan and tend to find someone to curse, rightly or wrongly: it's been Muamba, Pratley, Ngog, Andrews, Spearing, Baptiste etc. etc., and for the first quite encouraging game of a new season, it would have been nice to focus more on the positive, especially Feeney's work-rate, rather than seek to demoralise him within a few minutes.
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Post by Pedro on Aug 10, 2015 15:58:08 GMT
Great game and the fans proved to Lennon that if the players give 100% they will turn the ReeMac from a morgue to a cauldron! Amazing performance from Prince and when Derik returns we will have a back 4 to trust after such a long time of mediocrity at the back. Just hope that Moxey can keep playing like he did - what a difference. Hopefully all down to Lennon, so onward and upward. COYWM www.youtube.com/watch?v=dATd8iVOEWM
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Post by Trotter on Aug 10, 2015 16:59:36 GMT
I go for a draw as well 0-0- Spot on well done
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Post by realtrottersforever on Aug 10, 2015 19:53:03 GMT
If you look back a bit more carefully, RTF, you will see that david m actually gives Feeney 5 out of 10. I think you are referring to the section of david's post where he is still quoting Andy L. Mind you, I don't disagree with david's point that Liam F is not really up to the standard needed, but 1 mark is harsh!! In any case, the point of my remarks was that we Boltonians like a good moan and tend to find someone to curse, rightly or wrongly: it's been Muamba, Pratley, Ngog, Andrews, Spearing, Baptiste etc. etc., and for the first quite encouraging game of a new season, it would have been nice to focus more on the positive, especially Feeney's work-rate, rather than seek to demoralise him within a few minutes. I'll give you that one Joanna, my mistake. But I won't change my opinion of Feeney on Saturday's showing. He was "truly awful" game after game last season, and off this one game he hasn't improved any. The fact is he isn't good enough and no amount of running around with no decent end product will make up for that. He can't beat one man and yet on a number of occasions he thought he could take on 3 or 4 players. He can't consistently put a decent cross in and 9 times out of 10 times he doesn't clear the first defender with corners. He is just a waste of a position and he weakens the team. But there were lots of positives to draw from the match, Price had a marvellous debut, Moxey had his best game since arriving, Wilson was steady, Clough showed some nice touches but didn't get enough of the ball, because it always went to Feeney!!!! Spearing showed some of the attributes that made us sign him in the first place and Madine made a right nuisance of himself and was unlucky not to score.
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Post by OohMac on Aug 11, 2015 14:42:46 GMT
Lennon said Dervite was our best player, and had been all pre-season. I only watched the highlights so maybe doing him a disservice but when Will Hughes went down injured the other Derby player ran it the box and Dervite slid in with a completely reckless lunge. Luckily he was so too slow to make contact, it would have been a stonewall penalty and possible consecutive red card.
He may have got better but there'll always be that level of untrust when he's involved, and Marc Iles lead tribute with his Surprise, Surprise match ratings. Feeney another 6. Which is as, unless you get beat 7-1 at Reading, the lowest you can get.
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