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Post by andyl on Apr 11, 2015 11:15:02 GMT
Thought we should have one!
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Post by andyl on Apr 11, 2015 11:16:51 GMT
Very difficult game. Their set up is such that if we counter attack it will be best. If we go with Feeney and Walker wide and the Chelsea pensioners up front alone lookout!
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Post by OohMac on Apr 11, 2015 12:29:35 GMT
If it ain't broke don't fix it....oh well I suppose Craig Davies is a bit broke so we should fix it with ALF but i'd keep it as it is.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 11, 2015 16:41:53 GMT
I swear on my life, I turned off Jack Dearden on BBC Radio Manchester, the very moment the much coveted BWFC target Gary Hooper put Norwich one foot in the Premier League, following our inability to defend on injury time and guess what was playing on the other station ??
Big Mouth Strikes Again : The Smiths very apt after hearing Dearden holler 'and Norwich will take the points'
Aaaarrrgggggghhhhhhh.....,
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Post by andyl on Apr 11, 2015 16:59:27 GMT
Yet again we get caught by a simple counter attack deep int injury time. We had battled well against a side who started impressively but whom we reeled in until the second half was really quite even. They went quickly to three subs, a consequence of how frustrated they were. We waited too long to make changes and then arguably made the wrong ones? We played a good deal better than against Blackpool and I'd say we deserved a point if we hadn't conceded seven times in added time. That's not bad luck, it's bad game management
On this occasion we saw a quick break a straight ball and a complete muddle at the back as Bogdan in no man's land and his central defenders stood and watched each other as Hooper finished the game with ease.
In truth we threatened very little and what we did emanated from Walker who made a good number of crosses, was absurdly booked by a referee who ignored Jerome's deliberate trip of Ream but also made some mistakes through inexperienced. If compared with Feeney on the other flank he is far better. We did not need a team reliant on Feeney's wing back play or lack of it. For the third time he had chances to keep the ball in extra time. He did one good thing.
At the death a wing back flew down the wing and all but got through. 'Why didn't Feeney do that earlier' a man said...because it was Janko
Mills was omitted. Don't know why but until the final blunder I thought we were the better for it. Certainly Jerome's was stifled. Ream and Moxey played well if Dervite looked slow at times. Bogdan kicked too much but got in one punch and made one splendid save and better recovery to thwart their best chance.
Our goal was a piece of Le Fondre opportunism after a great Walker cross. Le Fondre is good at the near post. Up front otherwise it was hard work. I thought Heskey did well throughout of course with no goal threat. Bannan and Vela were good throughout save for Vela's wild challenge to concede the free kick which deflected to goal early on. Our wall was awful. Players turned their backs.
Bogdan 6 Dervite 4 Ream 6 Moxey 6 Bannan 7 Vela 7 Eidur 5 Feeney 1 Le Fondre 6 Walker 6 Heskey 8
If this seems harsh on Feeney well I don't think it is. He was quite useless today and there is no excuse for his continued selection. We were also too frequently outnumbered in midfield. They passed swiftly and incisively. We were less effective. They ran better into space and off the ball. We were too static never more so than at throw ins
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Post by davidm on Apr 11, 2015 18:01:47 GMT
Yet again. Such a sloppy end to a game and more disappointment.
We were very unlucky to concede the first goal. The ball deflected wickedly but the wall was soft. A good wall blocks that shot not lets it hit them and go goalwards.
We scored an excellent equaliser thanks to a lovely run and centre by Walker who only minutes earlier had a similar position but tried too many touches.
I had to be happy at half time. Norwich had had considerable possession and passed the ball well but we battled reasonably well. There were too many instances of the ball bouncing around in our box and no-one having any control but somehow we survived
Second half we improved and Norwich couldn’t attack us as much but their manager went all out for the win with 3 strikers on at the end and we went into ultra-conservative mode. There was always the feeling that Norwich would grab one and, as ever, we just switched off to a long ball and paid the price.
I really am sick off all these last minute concessions. We have a group of players who cannot concentrate for 95+ minutes.
Really disappointed. It looks like we are going to finish really low down in the table to reflect a dismal season.
Bogdan - 6 Not really much to do. I don’t think he could do much about either goal. He flapped at a couple of punches but overall fine.
Dervite - 4 Terrible. His marking was poor, his distribution (including headed clearances) was awful and I think that it was he who went to sleep for the flick on in the last minute. Much too casual to be part of a 3-man back line.
Ream - 7 I think he was outjumped for the last minute flick-on but he was the best of an average back three. He still lacks a bit of strength to be the one to build the defence around. Some good tackles/interceptions.
Moxey - 6 Reasonably steady except for one awful pass across the 6-yard box in the first half which could, maybe should, have yielded a goal.
Feeney - 3 Horrible performance. He was neither any good in defence nor in attack. When he got the ball in our half from the defence, he regularly just passed it back to Dervite. He rarely got up to help the attack but on the couple of occasions when he did, he hopelessly put the ball straight to the keeper. He is not a wing-back.
Walker - 6 A mixture of good and bad. His centre for Le Fondre’s goal was brilliant but he tends to give the ball away when in defensive positions. This will improve with experience whereas there is no chance of Feeney improving. Ran out of steam again. Mr Lennon had a go at him for this on the radio.
Bannan - 7 Worked hard but couldn’t find any killer passes and was isolated a little in midfield.
Gudjohnsen - 5 Anonymous in midfield. Norwich’s midfield had acres of space. They passed and moved and cut through our team with ease.
Vela - 6 Lost the ball at the start of the move for their first goal but he still contributes much to our midfield.
Le Fondre - 6 Excellent goal and some good runs into the channels. With a better, more incisive midfield behind him, he would score a lot.
Heskey - 6 Worked really hard and gave the Norwich defence a bit of a battering but, and this is a big BUT, he does not score goals nor does he create much for his team mates. I know that he works hard to hold the ball up but can we afford a non-scoring striker?
Manager - 6 I quite like the 3-5-2 shape but his choice of Feeney as a wing-back is flawed. He must also instill some concentration into the team. There are times, highlighted by the last minute winner, that we just stand and watch the play pass us by. A lot of new players are needed for next season as the majority of this team are not up to it.
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Post by andyl on Apr 11, 2015 19:17:35 GMT
Re Heskey I think he did what he does as well and for longer than previously. I agree with all the rest David .
But I do think Neil L was out subbed by A Neil. Danns was not a good choice. Rochina might just have taken the game to them. And Janko for Feeney perhaps ahead of Vela would also have kept us on the front foot.
I thought Bogdan was at sixes and sevens with Dervite more than once and with Feeney floating around we were vulnerable.
I think 3 is a bit high for Feeney. The one good run he made was followed by a dire cross.Lennon selects him and is wrong to do so. I agree that Feeney will not improve. And I'm fed up watching him
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Post by andyl on Apr 11, 2015 19:53:58 GMT
Did anyone see Emile ' s Cruyff turn in the first half?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 20:27:37 GMT
Re Heskey I think he did what he does as well and for longer than previously. I agree with all the rest David . But I do think Neil L was out subbed by A Neil. Danns was not a good choice. Rochina might just have taken the game to them. And Janko for Feeney perhaps ahead of Vela would also have kept us on the front foot. I thought Bogdan was at sixes and sevens with Dervite more than once and with Feeney floating around we were vulnerable. I think 3 is a bit high for Feeney. The one good run he made was followed by a dire cross.Lennon selects him and is wrong to do so. I agree that Feeney will not improve. And I'm fed up watching him agree with what both have said but I still think NL has a lot to learn, to replace an attacker with a defender only invites pressure ,first sub should have been mavies not that idiot Danns keep the team who are taking risks on the back foot and you might just grab three points rather than one ,janko should have started for me, in fact I'd start Me before feeney .
While I have my moaning hat on a word about cowardly defending ,Vela was a disgrace had he not turned his back on the free kick he could have cleared with ease ,to many players are letting us down by acting like big girls instead of men ,face the ball, so it hurts for while but they are getting paid big bucks not peanuts .
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Post by Pedro on Apr 12, 2015 17:23:54 GMT
Just watched the replay and it was Walker who turned his back and the ball deflected off it. Lennon very annoyed and also with Walker's fading after an hour. I thought Norwich did not look like a team that was second in the Championship and thought overall we did very well against them. I would predict if they do go up they will come straight back down. We completely nullified Jerome who is one of the League's top goal scorers with 18 goals. Interestingly Norwich beat Dougloss 3-1. Extended highlights: www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZQKgOFdGRUStats from BBC: Possession45%/55% Shots 9 24 On target 4 8 Corners 4 8 Fouls 11 11 Feeney OUT - he has had his time now surely? |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 12, 2015 19:53:46 GMT
Could there be any potential for a Beckford, ALF and Cravies front line for next season with a return of the much improved Baptiste to strengthen our chances?
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Post by andyl on Apr 12, 2015 20:27:26 GMT
Definitely not, unlikely and no?
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Post by joanna on Apr 12, 2015 20:51:47 GMT
Saturday provided another example of Bogdan's lack of judgement; he is, as we all know, a calamity waiting to happen. He was never going to get to the ball before Hooper and made it easy for the forward to lob the ball over him. His kicking was poor too. Those who rate him above Lonergan are sadly mistaken.
He frequently misjudges the flight of crosses, pushes shots out centrally and does not command his area, nor does he liaise well with his defenders. Sell him and get Amos back.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 13, 2015 8:01:30 GMT
Definitely not, unlikely and no? No doubt your right there andyl and I also forgot about Clough as well. I do think that ALF will be another Jutkewitz, as in, we just don't seem to have the money to buy a goal scorer, so when his deal ends, he'll return to Cardiff and if Russell Slade is still in a job, he'll probably keep him. I only mentioned the return of those players purely because we are skint and they seem to be doing the business elsewhere, maybe they're ready to make an impact back at the ReeMac for next term?? Let's face it, when our loans return, we could be threadbare and with a lack of cash could be looking to our youth or at the lower leagues for anything decent |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 15:16:19 GMT
Just watched the replay and it was Walker who turned his back and the ball deflected off it. Lennon very annoyed and also with Walker's fading after an hour. I thought Norwich did not look like a team that was second in the Championship and thought overall we did very well against them. I would predict if they do go up they will come straight back down. We completely nullified Jerome who is one of the League's top goal scorers with 18 goals. Interestingly Norwich beat Dougloss 3-1. Extended highlights: www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZQKgOFdGRUStats from BBC: Possession45%/55% Shots 9 24 On target 4 8 Corners 4 8 Fouls 11 11 Feeney OUT - he has had his time now surely? yep your right so sorry Mr Vela, still say most players are to soft ,face the ball ,it may hurt for a bit but that's what you get paid big bucks for so MAN up . |
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