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Post by torquaywhites on Oct 12, 2014 15:36:13 GMT
Just thought I would start the campaign early to save time later!!!!!
He's no idea what he is doing, can't use substitutes wisely, plays people out of position.
I would rather see him play the under 8s who will work hard for the shirt, rather than persist with the same mistakes week in week out.
Of course I hope I am wrong.... Plus, when he fails, I can say I was right from day 1, and if I am wrong, I can pretend this thread never happened!!!!
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 12, 2014 15:38:54 GMT
Just thought I would start the campaign early to save time later!!!!! He's no idea what he is doing, can't use substitutes wisely, plays people out of position. I would rather see him play the under 8s who will work hard for the shirt, rather than persist with the same mistakes week in week out. Of course I hope I am wrong.... Plus, when he fails, I can say I was right from day 1, and if I am wrong, I can pretend this thread never happened!!!! You cynic TW.  |
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Post by OohMac on Oct 12, 2014 19:52:17 GMT
Nicely played TW. Almost makes amends for you backing the wrong man for so long and for never really admitting that when us negative Bolton fans or numpties as we like to be called, may have seen passed Dougies bull and saw that nothing was improving!
Hear he's on a 1 year rolling contract, which is frankly sensible for any new manager. But I'm quite surprised if thats the case as Neil Lennon apparently turned down a £2M a year contract(according to his agent)
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 12, 2014 20:54:20 GMT
Nicely played TW. Almost makes amends for you backing the wrong man for so long and for never really admitting that when us negative Bolton fans or numpties as we like to be called, may have seen passed Dougies bull and saw that nothing was improving! Hear he's on a 1 year rolling contract, which is frankly sensible for any new manager. But I'm quite surprised if thats the case as Neil Lennon apparently turned down a £2M a year contract(according to his agent) Well all I can say to that last sentence Mac, is that he's obviously come to the right place if he can come out with bull5hit like that..... We'll leave that comment with Darkslimes Rivaldo papers and Gavin McCanns signing on form eh?? |
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Post by natfan on Oct 12, 2014 21:02:32 GMT
Totally agree RFR!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 12, 2014 21:07:25 GMT
Hi nat Welcome to the best football forum ever... All praise to realtrottersforever, show her much respect.. Can't tell you who the trouble causes are buddy, you'll have to find that out for yourself haha  Enjoy and most if all, contribute as much as you can, it's fun |
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Post by ivanofalkov on Oct 12, 2014 21:08:46 GMT
HE IS ON A ROLLING CONTRACT,
Lets hope he sees the light and rolls straight down to the job center when he sees the crap he has to work with...
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Post by torquaywhites on Oct 13, 2014 8:00:41 GMT
Nicely played TW. Almost makes amends for you backing the wrong man for so long and for never really admitting that when us negative Bolton fans or numpties as we like to be called, may have seen passed Dougies bull and saw that nothing was improving! Hear he's on a 1 year rolling contract, which is frankly sensible for any new manager. But I'm quite surprised if thats the case as Neil Lennon apparently turned down a £2M a year contract(according to his agent) My opinion was based on the fact each manager got gradually worse with each new manager that took on the poisoned chalice that is Bolton Wanderers. I went up against the BN Forum on Megson, and Coyle way before anybody else. By the time we got to Freedman it occurred to me that maybe the problem is far deeper than bad appointments. I still believe it is.
Lennon will have to be an outstanding manager to get our current crop of players winning games. Whether he can remains to be seen, but no doubt this forum will turn on him pretty quickly if we aren't in a play off position by Christmas.
He hasn't got any money to play with, but that won't even be considered by many.
The way I see it, he won't be able to polish a turd, and covering it in glitter won't make us stable.
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Post by Trotter on Oct 13, 2014 14:51:37 GMT
HE IS ON A ROLLING CONTRACT, Lets hope he sees the light and rolls straight down to the job center when he sees the crap he has to work with... The club have stated this morning he is on a 3 year contract along with his 2 assistants. |
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Post by whitesince63 on Oct 13, 2014 17:38:51 GMT
Nicely played TW. Almost makes amends for you backing the wrong man for so long and for never really admitting that when us negative Bolton fans or numpties as we like to be called, may have seen passed Dougies bull and saw that nothing was improving! Hear he's on a 1 year rolling contract, which is frankly sensible for any new manager. But I'm quite surprised if thats the case as Neil Lennon apparently turned down a £2M a year contract(according to his agent) My opinion was based on the fact each manager got gradually worse with each new manager that took on the poisoned chalice that is Bolton Wanderers. I went up against the BN Forum on Megson, and Coyle way before anybody else. By the time we got to Freedman it occurred to me that maybe the problem is far deeper than bad appointments. I still believe it is.
Lennon will have to be an outstanding manager to get our current crop of players winning games. Whether he can remains to be seen, but no doubt this forum will turn on him pretty quickly if we aren't in a play off position by Christmas.
He hasn't got any money to play with, but that won't even be considered by many.
The way I see it, he won't be able to polish a turd, and covering it in glitter won't make us stable.
I think you're reading it wrong yet again TW. Most of us are hugely hopeful for all Wanderers managers but when they start off like Freedman did, especially after the disappointment of OC, it just fuels negativity. We were right about Freedman and he should have gone long before he did but that's history. It's up to Lennon now but unlike previous managers who have inherited quality squads and were rightly criticised for increasingly poor performances Lennon inherits a less capable squad and will be given the time to improve it. How many times have we said that a good manager gets 10-20% more from even average players whilst a poor manager gets less even from good players. Freedman definitely proved that rule and thank goodness he's now gone. I'm100% behind Lennon and believe for once Gartside has got it spot on. Hey, this time I hope I'm right. |
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Post by Trotter on Oct 13, 2014 17:52:22 GMT
I too believe GARTSIDE has got it right with this appointment and I am fully behind Lennon who has come across the media pack very well indeed in fact excellent in his manner and respect of our club.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 13, 2014 18:03:00 GMT
I too believe GARTSIDE has got it right with this appointment and I am fully behind Lennon who has come across the media pack very well indeed in fact excellent in his manner and respect of our club. Has Gartside got it right??? The word 'unanimous' was used in the statement but I wonder why Gartside, Davies AND Warburton all got a mention with the appointment of NL, when usually it's just Gartside attempting to take all the credit? Don't read me wrong here by the way, I've nowt against NL and I really wish him well. I've just heard him on GMR and he came across really well, I do think he'll do well and I also think he could get snapped up after his year long stint with us if he does a decent job |
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Post by Trotter on Oct 13, 2014 18:23:53 GMT
I too believe GARTSIDE has got it right with this appointment and I am fully behind Lennon who has come across the media pack very well indeed in fact excellent in his manner and respect of our club. Has Gartside got it right??? The word 'unanimous' was used in the statement but I wonder why Gartside, Davies AND Warburton all got a mention with the appointment of NL, when usually it's just Gartside attempting to take all the credit? Don't read me wrong here by the way, I've nowt against NL and I really wish him well. I've just heard him on GMR and he came across really well, I do think he'll do well and I also think he could get snapped up after his year long stint with us if he does a decent job The only Bolton fans I know who have questioned his appointment are those who like Rangers and one other thing regarding his contract is that he has signed a 3 year contract NOT a 1 year rolling contract. |
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Post by torquaywhites on Oct 13, 2014 18:24:12 GMT
My opinion was based on the fact each manager got gradually worse with each new manager that took on the poisoned chalice that is Bolton Wanderers. I went up against the BN Forum on Megson, and Coyle way before anybody else. By the time we got to Freedman it occurred to me that maybe the problem is far deeper than bad appointments. I still believe it is.
Lennon will have to be an outstanding manager to get our current crop of players winning games. Whether he can remains to be seen, but no doubt this forum will turn on him pretty quickly if we aren't in a play off position by Christmas.
He hasn't got any money to play with, but that won't even be considered by many.
The way I see it, he won't be able to polish a turd, and covering it in glitter won't make us stable.
I think you're reading it wrong yet again TW. Most of us are hugely hopeful for all Wanderers managers but when they start off like Freedman did, especially after the disappointment of OC, it just fuels negativity. We were right about Freedman and he should have gone long before he did but that's history. It's up to Lennon now but unlike previous managers who have inherited quality squads and were rightly criticised for increasingly poor performances Lennon inherits a less capable squad and will be given the time to improve it. How many times have we said that a good manager gets 10-20% more from even average players whilst a poor manager gets less even from good players. Freedman definitely proved that rule and thank goodness he's now gone. I'm100% behind Lennon and believe for once Gartside has got it spot on. Hey, this time I hope I'm right. With all due respect, this forum, or at least it's predecessor the BN was always negative towards managers. That forums leader Queenie even started to turn her disciples against BSA, who gave us the best years we have had in my lifetime. So sorry whites lad, I don't expect it to be long before the switch to hatred comes. |
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Post by torquaywhites on Oct 13, 2014 18:29:12 GMT
Has Gartside got it right??? The word 'unanimous' was used in the statement but I wonder why Gartside, Davies AND Warburton all got a mention with the appointment of NL, when usually it's just Gartside attempting to take all the credit? Don't read me wrong here by the way, I've nowt against NL and I really wish him well. I've just heard him on GMR and he came across really well, I do think he'll do well and I also think he could get snapped up after his year long stint with us if he does a decent job The only Bolton fans I know who have questioned his appointment are those who like Rangers and one other thing regarding his contract is that he has signed a 3 year contract NOT a 1 year rolling contract. I don't understand it personally, why do so many Wanderers like the unwashed Hun??? I know some lads who are refusing to go because of their love of the zombies, and hatred of the Celtic. |
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