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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 4, 2024 13:19:42 GMT
I really didn't care about the result and though there are positives goals mainly. But still doesn't look convincing and annoyingly in his post match Ian attempted to rewrite history suggesting that Saturdays performance wasn't bad at all and we had 26 shots to thier 6. Fooling no one. And this was another reason why I was dreading a win, it papers over the huge cracks from the fall out of the Wembley disaster and a very turgid start to this season, culminating in 2 losses on the spin to Charlton Pathetic and Exeter Huddersfield will muller us next Saturday |
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Post by kenglowhite on Sept 4, 2024 15:08:18 GMT
This forum is becoming increasingly depressing through the comments of too few punters. Faith and hope would not go amiss on here. Surely that's what football-supporting is all about.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 4, 2024 15:24:18 GMT
This forum is becoming increasingly depressing through the comments of too few punters. Faith and hope would not go amiss on here. Surely that's what football-supporting is all about. It is Ken and opinions too I’ll do my bit to lighten the mood and depression as well as I can as I know it can leave a lingering stench, but come on, are we not allowed at least one moment of depression following THAT Exeter game as well as all the other games where the offering has been well below par!! For far too long this has been going on (I’d even say since the turn of the year) I really thought, with the additional signings we’ve made, that we would be ripping this league apart, instead we’ve been, not only sussed out by the teams still in this league, but I would imagine the newcomers from the Championship and those from League 2 and I know we haven’t played some of those sides yet but we’ve been on show on SKY + to let other sides know of our weaknesses Biggest problem being, they all know how to fix us but Evatt doesn’t |
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Post by kenglowhite on Sept 4, 2024 19:03:24 GMT
Rioch, I am equally nervous as you, but as far as Wembley is concerned am realistic enough to know that if the referee on the day had shown the rights cards for fouls on Maghoma and Sheehan at the outset things could have been different for not only us, but also Mr Evatt. For that reason I do not hold him responsible for our loss to Oxford.
So far as this new season is concerned it remains to be seen if he has chosen the right signings, and if he can make them gel into a promotion-winning team. One or two look good - one or two not so good.
I therefore believe it is best not to join the junkies on the BN site, and wait in a civilised way to see if things settle down and good progress made.
I enjoy much of the wit on here and also most assessments, and admire your efforts to keep things going.
However, I do believe we should not be joining those who are constantly throwing their toys out of their prams for want of better things to say. If change comes that will be the time for analysis in my opinion.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 5, 2024 18:46:05 GMT
Sorry you feel this is too negative Kenglo, perhaps you're right that we are lacking the representation of half fullers.
I can't agree with your Wembley assessment though. On a list of people to blame the ref was way down my list. One or two robust challenges should not knocked us off our stride so easily. Yet we know it does and continues to do so.
For any perceived negativity on here. Well no, admittedly there is negativity on here, but it's not for any players. There's no boo boys. Whipping boys. If I made my worst XI none of this squad gets close. I know Santos gets some jip but I think he's a heck of a defender when he's allowed to. So my negativity all comes from this manager.
We've had a theme of hiring young managers who haven't faced adversity before and can't react to or handle pressure. Coyle was God at Burnley in his first role but failed everywhere after that. Dougie did well with Zaha a good academy at Palace and failed everywhere else before deciding he wasn't a manager. I recently heard someone say "Dougie is a good footballing man but I can't believe he became a manager because you knew he would be awful at it" (sorry can't remember who that was) Lennon only had the easier job in the world at that time with Rangers in the 3rd tier.
Evatts a little like that. Some success at Barrow and a promotion with us. Feels like he knows the game inside out and doesn't need to change.
People often say Ians young and learning. I think he's one of those things and I actually think he needs to reflect. I really think they missed a trick letting him bring in another assistant another pal.
Anyway, well see what he's made of in these next half dozen games or so.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 6, 2024 12:50:38 GMT
I think you’re right OM we need to see how he goes over the next batch of games and if things dont improve considerably then i see little reason to have trust in him. Hes been well backed with money this year when personally i didnt really think there was much wrong with what we had already and a couple of experienced additions would have done for me but instead we flashed the cash and i think its just added even more pressure onto IE. So far the jurys well out on what’s come in and to be honest i havent been greatly impressed by any of them but maybe theyll kick on after the international break and when fit? There may of course be one more addition soon if this free agent signs though it seems there is considerable competition and whoever it is is in no rush. Personally id make him our best offer and say take it or leave it because we cant have it dragging on. Id be perfectly happy though to go with what weve got which should be more than good enough to at lesst make the top six though even after our start top two shouldnt be ruled out. September looks a tough month though and we need to recover the points weve lost so far so Evatts got his work cut out so lets see if hes up to it?
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Post by chip on Sept 6, 2024 17:05:29 GMT
We at the end of the day we’re all Bolton fans but we can’t keep going along singing rah rah rah when the performances have been poor now I’m sorry if that’s negative but I just want to see us progress up into the championship for now COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 6, 2024 20:08:12 GMT
We at the end of the day we’re all Bolton fans but we can’t keep going along singing rah rah rah when the performances have been poor now I’m sorry if that’s negative but I just want to see us progress up into the championship for now COYWM We’ll never get a better chance than we had last year chip it should have been nailed on and when you think how we threw it away even excluding Wembley which should never have been necessary, it’s a complete travesty. I can’t blame Evatt for point blank misses by the likes of Dion, Bod and Cogley or defensive shambles as against Wigan at the Reebok and I definitely don’t subscribe to the injury excuse because others, especially Derby had it just as bad, but something caused the chronic fall out after January when we were in an almost unassailable position. To capitulate so badly must be the question that needs answering. What we can say is that we threw it away and we’re not likely to get another opportunity like that for a very long time. |
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