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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 11, 2024 8:23:18 GMT
Terrific win and throughly deserved and well done to Gareth for the subs for once. Unlike you Rioch I thought the penalty decision was spot on by a very good referee. If that foot up, studs showing challenge had been anywhere else on the pitch it would have been given so of course it was a pen. Overall I though we fully deserved to win having had one cleared off the line and one hit the post from Phil Foden, who was for once excellent last night, thank goodness Gareth moved him back inside. So on to the Spaniardo’s now and there’s absolutely no reason we can’t win that too with the players confidence zooming after last night. People have said we’ve only played poor teams, which I think is unfair on several of the others and we’ll struggle against the better teams but I don’t think so. These players can up their game when necessary and Ive every confidence they will on Sunday and it finally is coming home. 😁🥳🍾🪇🏆🏴
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 11, 2024 9:28:47 GMT
Terrific win and throughly deserved and well done to Gareth for the subs for once. Unlike you Rioch I thought the penalty decision was spot on by a very good referee. If that foot up, studs showing challenge had been anywhere else on the pitch it would have been given so of course it was a pen. Overall I though we fully deserved to win having had one cleared off the line and one hit the post from Phil Foden, who was for once excellent last night, thank goodness Gareth moved him back inside. So on to the Spaniardo’s now and there’s absolutely no reason we can’t win that too with the players confidence zooming after last night. People have said we’ve only played poor teams, which I think is unfair on several of the others and we’ll struggle against the better teams but I don’t think so. These players can up their game when necessary and Ive every confidence they will on Sunday and it finally is coming home. 😁🥳🍾🪇🏆🏴 The thing about playing ‘poor’ teams W63, everyone keeps saying that our route to the final was the easy one, on paper, yeah, but I don’t think any single team, including Spain has had it easy. Spain’s route, again, on paper, looked daunting, but let’s face it, Italy, Germany, Portugal, Belgium, France have all been well below average. Big country names not living up to their titles and big name teams of the past THE ROUTE Spain Won 6 Drew 0 Lost 0 For 13 Against 3 V Croatia 3-0 V Italy 1-0 V Albania 1-0 V Georgia 4-1 V Germany 2-1 V France 2-1 England Won 4 Drew 2 Lost 0 For 7 Against 4 V Serbia 1-0 V Denmark 1-1 V Slovenia 0-0 V Slovakia 2-1 V Switzerland 1-1 V Holland 2-1
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Post by OohMac on Jul 14, 2024 14:24:39 GMT
Caught a bit of the 66 World Cup final shown on Channel 4 yesterday. Amazed at how naive the game was. 2-1 up with 3 mins to go and England bombing forward, over committing. Have a goal kick and Gordon Banks rushing to take it. Then concede with one of the last kicks to go.
Wonder when getting it in the corner became the thing.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 14, 2024 15:56:49 GMT
Caught a bit of the 66 World Cup final shown on Channel 4 yesterday. Amazed at how naive the game was. 2-1 up with 3 mins to go and England bombing forward, over committing. Have a goal kick and Gordon Banks rushing to take it. Then concede with one of the last kicks to go. Wonder when getting it in the corner became the thing. Ditto OM, I thought exactly the same. I used to remember the football then being slower but not a bit of it, there was no rest and everybody just got on with it so quickly. It makes you laugh now when they claim to be tired after an hour when you see how much running the players did then. I have to say though, how good did Beckenbauer look even as a youngster then? You could see he was class every time he got on the ball. So on to tonight and hopefully it really is coming home this time? The Spanish have clearly been the most impressive team so far but I’m a great believer in quality players delivering when they need to which is why I expect the likes of Kane, Foden and Bellingham to turn up tonight and do the business. It’ll be tight but I’m going 2-1 to England and save us the need for extra time or penalties. 🏴🏆
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 14, 2024 18:21:14 GMT
Caught a bit of the 66 World Cup final shown on Channel 4 yesterday. Amazed at how naive the game was. 2-1 up with 3 mins to go and England bombing forward, over committing. Have a goal kick and Gordon Banks rushing to take it. Then concede with one of the last kicks to go. Wonder when getting it in the corner became the thing. Ditto OM, I thought exactly the same. I used to remember the football then being slower but not a bit of it, there was no rest and everybody just got on with it so quickly. It makes you laugh now when they claim to be tired after an hour when you see how much running the players did then. I have to say though, how good did Beckenbauer look even as a youngster then? You could see he was class every time he got on the ball. So on to tonight and hopefully it really is coming home this time? The Spanish have clearly been the most impressive team so far but I’m a great believer in quality players delivering when they need to which is why I expect the likes of Kane, Foden and Bellingham to turn up tonight and do the business. It’ll be tight but I’m going 2-1 to England and save us the need for extra time or penalties. 🏴🏆 Saw it too OoooooooM W63 How many sloppy passes??? Poor ball control Terrible pitch Big Jack using scaffolding and a harness at one point to give away a pointless free kick at the wrong time in the game I’d take all of that right now for a victory, even an EvattBall 1-0 will do but I can’t help feeling like I did v Oxford, full of fake optimism if that’s such a thing You always know when the worlds against us we can’t string 2 passes together but, if like us 3, any of todays squad took a glance at that 66 final and what it meant to our country, them boys tonight SHOULD run through brick walls to bring home the bacon COYE This is it Write your own history and watch how differently you’ll be treated by opposing fans when you take to the field in the Premier League next season That said, if you don’t come back with the trophy, be ready for the birch at every stadium 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴FINGERS CROSSED 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 14, 2024 20:07:29 GMT
Oh dear
Luke Shaw didn’t look interested when Spain came forward for that goal leaving Walker and Pickford no chance, although Walker hadn’t a clue where Williams was!!!!
Oh dear
And straight away it could have been 2-0
O Rodri!!! No problem
Wake up England ffs
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 14, 2024 20:33:04 GMT
COLE THE GOAL
COYE ⚽️🏴⚽️🏴⚽️🏴⚽️🏴
1-1
We CAN do this🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 14, 2024 21:01:03 GMT
It’s just Eurovision
We are NEVER destined to win, not in my lifetime
Well played Spain, we were beaten by the better side but who knows, if that header had gone in for extra time, who knows, but it’s fair to say, it had Southgate all over it, playing for 55 minutes with no goal threat and his insistence to stick with Kane on his own proved one step too far against the best side in the competition
World Cup 2026, we get the chance to watch Spain win again, so we’ve not that long to wait
Really really sad tonight
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 14, 2024 21:03:39 GMT
Too good for us in the end. Not necessarily because they had better players but because they just passed and moved brilliantly whilst we looked laboured and slow again. Back to the drawing board now probably with a new manager but with the squad we have there’s no reason we can’t win next time.
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Post by OohMac on Jul 14, 2024 22:46:01 GMT
Yeah, best team won. I don't think we're as good as we think Declan Rice isn't Rodri.
It's a little worrying that no one seems to be coming through to improve us. Harry Kane looked like he was running in gravy. John Stones isn't ready to be senior centre back and Declan Rice. Well Rice pudding as Rioch said. He's the most overrated player in the world?
Would hate to go for the European coach who doesn't understand the culture and fails like Capello, but we also deserve better than the English inferior coaches like Keegan, Hodgson, Mclaren and I suspect Potter, Lampard may be in that group.
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Post by westandlower on Jul 15, 2024 8:33:22 GMT
Southgate has had his chance. Time to put his feet up for a while. I think Eddie Howe is probably the best English manager at the moment, but it's a poisoned chalice and he would be crazy to take the job. We'll probably end up with Gerard, Lampard or God forbid, Rooney and more winless trophy years.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jul 15, 2024 9:06:58 GMT
It’s a shame really because we’ve probably got the most committed, decent, honest and patriotic manager we’ve ever had but he just hasn’t managed to get us over that final hurdle. When you look at his record though, you really can’t argue that he’s been successful to a point. I thought the Italy final last time was our best chance but his negative attitude cost it us for me against a pretty poor and eminently beatable Italy. This time Spain were head and shoulders the best team in the competition and they did it the old way with a strong midfield, two wingers and proper full backs. Let’s hope Evatt was watching because last night was a master class of how to play out from the back, quick,direct and always on the front foot. We can live in hope I suppose? 🙂
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 15, 2024 11:58:21 GMT
Southgate has had his chance. Time to put his feet up for a while. I think Eddie Howe is probably the best English manager at the moment, but it's a poisoned chalice and he would be crazy to take the job. We'll probably end up with Gerard, Lampard or God forbid, Rooney and more winless trophy years. Ancelotti would have got a better tune out of those players for sure If GS calls time, we’re going to hear names like Howe, McKenna, Thomas Frank, dare I even say Sean Dyche and then there’s the Rooney/Gerard/Terry names thrown around All this, be careful what you wish for’ (Evatt and Southgate) I’m not buying, time for change on both fronts. I’ll be glad to se the back of 2024 on footballing reasons only. Failure at Wembley and failure last night and now we are on the start of the upcoming season and I can’t help feeling so depressed and also underwhelmed, with incoming transfers from Crawley Town, Wycombe Wanderers, Cheltenham Town and an overaged player from America, it hardly gets the juices flowing
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Post by OohMac on Jul 15, 2024 12:32:20 GMT
I could just see the FA going to Lee Carsley and promoting up. Then we'd have the same issues as with Gareth.
Wonder how secure Howe feels his job is at Newcastle. Always assumed he was just there until they start the real spending and they get a big name. If he feels the same he may be tempted to give it a go.
Potter, Potch, Tuchel are probably the available managers.
Then there's the younger names like Edwards, Carrick, maybe even Schumacher or Ryan Lowe but will the media really have a small name. Maybe Carrick is a big enough name. But these are not best in class are they.
Can't get excited about anyone really.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jul 15, 2024 15:25:51 GMT
I could just see the FA going to Lee Carsley and promoting up. Then we'd have the same issues as with Gareth. Wonder how secure Howe feels his job is at Newcastle. Always assumed he was just there until they start the real spending and they get a big name. If he feels the same he may be tempted to give it a go. Potter, Potch, Tuchel are probably the available managers. Then there's the younger names like Edwards, Carrick, maybe even Schumacher or Ryan Lowe but will the media really have a small name. Maybe Carrick is a big enough name. But these are not best in class are they. Can't get excited about anyone really. Heard Talksport mention the Lee Carsley route which looks so plausible given that the FA would go for that kind of ‘sustainable’ promotion from within Might even look at Weigman too 😳(I know, but it could happen) I think Howe is not much of an uplift on Southgate. Another posh speaking safe bet that nods when he’s asked to. I’d imagine both of them buy The Watchtower and dare not swear or curse at anyone. I’m not saying we need a Mike Bassett type figure but we certainly need one that’s not scared to death of dropping a poor front man when all the world could see how lacklustre he was.
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