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Post by OohMac on Jun 20, 2024 18:23:14 GMT
So so poor. I gave them a bit of a pass on Sunday because first games are nervy but that was absolutely pathetic and I'd say our worst ever performance.
Denmark reminded me of an Oxford, they knew exactly what we'd do, they were do well prepped, they absolutely nullified all attacks.
There is so much wrong with that tonight.
Trippier- no left foot. He cannot play left back no matter how desperate we are.
Stones - seems to lack the belief of being the Senior centre half.
AA- doesn't work. Not a midfielder. It's an insult to international football to think he can just step in and play there. He looked lost.
Rice - last time I saw Rice that dodgy spent the rest of week in bed with a bucket.
Bellingham - trying too hard but didn't do basics at all.
Foden - much better but without a left wing back over lapping he has little option.
Saka - awful. I don't get why a left footer doesn't ever get moved from off the right plank. They knew he wanted to cut back everytime and just stopped it with ease. If they'd have swapped the defence might have had some question marks. What's happening now?
Kane- scored 1 but assisted theres. Do not want my striker dropping back there. Esepcially when he's more hindrance.
Subs. Watkins did some good runs but he's not got the quality really. Bowen and Eze. In fairness we all moan when the top 6 clubs keep getting picked but you can usually spot the players who come in from mid table.
Southgate. He's gone at the end of this tournament no doubt. His lucks run out. Got all the ingredients(well to he fair we have a poor defence this time) but we're letting a Wetherspoons chef cook with them. He's microwaving steaks.
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Post by boris on Jun 20, 2024 19:52:45 GMT
What a pile of crap that was. Favourites, favourites for what, we'll win nothing until they inject some pace into the game. These are supposedly world class players, paid a kings ransom each weak yet look like amateurs!
The script is just boring-England come out, look good, score and...Well, basically, they do nothing apart from sit back, play tappy, tappy, sideways, backways, anyways but forward. I don't know what Southgate tells them apart from defend, defend, defend!
Ah well, at least they'll be on their way home before I go away which gives me time to relax.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jun 20, 2024 20:34:39 GMT
What a pile of crap that was. Favourites, favourites for what, we'll win nothing until they inject some pace into the game. These are supposedly world class players, paid a kings ransom each weak yet look like amateurs!
The script is just boring-England come out, look good, score and...Well, basically, they do nothing apart from sit back, play tappy, tappy, sideways, backways, anyways but forward. I don't know what Southgate tells them apart from defend, defend, defend!
Ah well, at least they'll be on their way home before I go away which gives me time to relax.
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Post by OohMac on Jun 20, 2024 20:55:11 GMT
Denmark coach did a Des Buckingham on us. Everyone knew our weaknesses and they just exploited it. Too many square pegs, round holes.
At least Southgate made a triple sub unlike Evatt but for me a Boro manager given a big job and a Barrow manager given a big job and neither have the capabilites, knowledge or experience to do service
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Post by whitesince63 on Jun 21, 2024 8:40:23 GMT
It’s actually difficult to understand how such good players and they are good players, can be so woefully and collectively bad when playing for England and it has to be the system the manager implements. We see it every week with Evattball so we can identify it immediately. These players didn’t suddenly decide to play like that they’re trying to implement a system and like our lot none of them seem to have the bottle to say fook it and just go on instinct. I’ve never really rated Stones but last night even he plumed new depths for me doing the Santos act of just standing with the ball and passing sideways and back. He doesn’t do that in the PL he gets the ball and brings it forward and starts the attacks. The team last night was a joke even before the start with so many players out of position and Kane summed it up in his post match interview admitting the players didn’t know what they were doing but he should have included the manager in that too. There’s no question that these players can do better but only if they’re played in the right positions and allowed to express themselves which I frankly don’t expect to happen whilst Southgate’s in charge. Without being derogatory if we struggle to beat the likes of Denmark and Serbia we’ve zero chance against the better sides so since I’m not anticipating some damascene conversion from Southgate I think we’ll be out of our pain soon and then we can look forward to more of it from the Wanderers this season!! 🤨☹️
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jun 21, 2024 8:50:41 GMT
It’s actually difficult to understand how such good players and they are good players, can be so woefully and collectively bad when playing for England and it has to be the system the manager implements. We see it every week with Evattball so we can identify it immediately. These players didn’t suddenly decide to play like that they’re trying to implement a system and like our lot none of them seem to have the bottle to say fook it and just go on instinct. I’ve never really rated Stones but last night even he plumed new depths for me doing the Santos act of just standing with the ball and passing sideways and back. He doesn’t do that in the PL he gets the ball and brings it forward and starts the attacks. The team last night was a joke even before the start with so many players out of position and Kane summed it up in his post match interview admitting the players didn’t know what they were doing but he should have included the manager in that too. There’s no question that these players can do better but only if they’re played in the right positions and allowed to express themselves which I frankly don’t expect to happen whilst Southgate’s in charge. Without being derogatory if we struggle to beat the likes of Denmark and Serbia we’ve zero chance against the better sides so since I’m not anticipating some damascene conversion from Southgate I think we’ll be out of our pain soon and then we can look forward to more of it from the Wanderers this season!! 🤨☹️ Belting summary that W63 Left side?? I bet Grealish and Rashford are having a wry smile on the QT Folk calling for more Watkins, a bit of Palmer, Toney or Gordon!!! Why?? We have the players that can do the business, we just have such a negative system that these unplayed stars wouldn’t suit either. When you’ve just come off the park and a player who has only played a few times all season (Eriksen) becomes man of the match, you know you’ve got problems. Even Hojberg pushed Eriksen for MoM and that’s a real kick in the teeth when you have Premier League winners Stones Walker Foden And then Southgate states that we’re missing Kalvin Phillips😳😳😳😳 Heaven help us😞😞😞 |
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Post by OohMac on Jun 21, 2024 12:45:19 GMT
Its so Bolton its annoying.
The similarities between Evatt and Southgate are there. Southatt for the rest of the tournament.
"He's got us through to the world Cup semis, first time since 1990"
"He's got us up from League 2"
"He's got us to our first major final"
"He's won us the Papa Johns and makes year on year improvements"
All mitigating.
Semis. We dodged any team until the semis. Losing to Belgium. Colombia without thier best player and took it to penalties.
L2 - we had an embarrassment of riches for that level and finished behind Cambridge.
Euros. Home tournament where we again had a clear path to final.
Papa Johns. We played Accrrington in the semis so that must tell you about the credentials.
The year improvement down to a much much poorer league. You swap Ipswich, Plymouth, Sheff Weds for Reading, Wigan(negative points) and Blackpool and we're not finishing 3rd. So we moved forward by standing still.
So we can have the neg heads vs happy clappers debate on a national scale now. Truth is I don't think either manager is up to the task, they've both had thier time, it's not been all bad by any means but for me it's time for fresh eyes, new ideas and more astute tactician
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Post by kenglowhite on Jun 21, 2024 13:01:53 GMT
With due respect to any socialists on here, I dub Gareth Southgate the Keir Smarmer of football.... and make of that what you will.
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Post by OohMac on Jun 21, 2024 13:33:18 GMT
With due respect to any socialists on here, I dub Gareth Southgate the Keir Smarmer of football.... and make of that what you will. After his post match interview I thought he was more like Rishi enjoying the last few weeks of his job and can look forward to having an extended holiday in July. Don't think either earned the role. RS not elected by vote. Southgate almost similarly snuck in the back door after the Sam debacle. In a sliding doors moment how do you think Big Sam's England would have done? I'm sure Bolton fans probably think he would have got the results and won the media round with a Britsh Bulldog mentality. I'm sure others would say he may have bored the nation, fans would have got on thier back and the FA trigger happy would not have hesitated to bring in thier yes man. |
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Post by westandlower on Jun 21, 2024 13:54:11 GMT
No one has seen Evatt for a month. I can reveal that one track mind Mr Predictable is out in Germany wearing a Southgate mask and in charge of England.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jun 21, 2024 17:21:59 GMT
No one has seen Evatt for a month. I can reveal that one track mind Mr Predictable is out in Germany wearing a Southgate mask and in charge of England. 😂😂😂😂 Made me chuckle did that WSL |
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Post by OohMac on Jun 24, 2024 21:32:00 GMT
Rumours are, and they are genuinely pretty much spot on, that there's only going to open change tomorrow. And I don't think it's the manager. Or changing not good to good.
Gallagher for Trent.
Isn't that just the most groundbreaking innovative decision ever by bold Southgate. The Bud Light of managers.
Looking forward to Autumn this year. Evatt sacked. Southgate gone.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jun 24, 2024 22:04:34 GMT
Rumours are, and they are genuinely pretty much spot on, that there's only going to open change tomorrow. And I don't think it's the manager. Or changing not good to good. Gallagher for Trent. Isn't that just the most groundbreaking innovative decision ever by bold Southgate. The Bud Light of managers. Looking forward to Autumn this year. Evatt sacked. Southgate gone. I thought that too OooooooooooooM Bloody ridiculous … Gallagher is not good enough at England level, his best moments were on loan at Palace a season ago. We have the best player in Germany, the best player in Spain and apparently the best player in England BUT We also have the most ‘safest’ manager in the world It reminds me very much of the old bastard FA Chairman that made sure Ron Greenwood got the nod ahead of Clough against popular choice and opinion, probably because Ron was a quiet, shy, retreating yes man, just like Southgate (The Oxford College Principal) Hoof this boring sod out as quick as you can as he’s not getting the fans onside with his Evatt style football I read that we’ve actually just qualified for the next 16 stage based on Spain’s 100% win record and of course them beating Albania, which apparently helps our cause My call.. Spain - be very surprised if they don’t win the damn trophy and I’d say that whoever beats them will be lifting it Germany- don’t rate them at all and they’ve hardly played a decent side Italy - very average France - very average and not really got going Holland - average but could be a surprise Portugal - haven’t really played anyone of note Belgium - plenty of talent but no end product England- very poor |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jun 25, 2024 19:17:11 GMT
Anyone else watching England and realising after 4 minutes and 50 seconds that we are actually very crap
What is the draw with this Bellingham??
Ok, he headed a goal, against the mighty Serbia, so what, but week in week out, he’s playing in the Spanish version of the SPL, Barça (Celtic) Real Madrid (Rangers) Athletico Madrid (Aberdeen) and the rest are EFL League One at best
So far he’s given the ball away that a better side would have capitalised
Now 16 minutes on and I’m not even sure if their keeper has even touched the ball let alone had a goal kick!!!
Southgate has so far done it again and put the reins on any positive forward movement, yes, in fact, o could be forgiven for thinking I’m watching the Serbia game, with Slovenia having the best chances so far
Fkn awful, really awful
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jun 25, 2024 19:53:16 GMT
Strewth
That was a horrid watch
Double strewth!!!!!
He got the Trent Alexander Arnold call wrong, so he makes his one and only change by replacing him with the very poor Gallagher and low and behold, he replaces Gallagher at half time by hooking him off in favour of Mainoo
Does Southgate only believe we have a problem in that position
Jeez this is even worse than Evatt and that’s saying summat
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