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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 10, 2023 15:57:05 GMT
Point deserved? Poor poor poor All Evatt’s fault that, needless changes No more Shitehire, Mbete please We could have lost that
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Apr 10, 2023 16:00:42 GMT
Got what we deserved. Took Evatt sixty minutes to put right HIS mistake. It didn't work from the start and should of been changed after 15 mins. Awful management.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 10, 2023 16:05:09 GMT
Point deserved? Poor poor poor All Evatt’s fault that, needless changes No more Shitehire, Mbete please We could have lost that Not entirely sure that’s fair because I’d have gone with Vic and Cam up top to start but where I think he made a mistake was completely changing midfield because we were just awful today and far too slow getting the ball moving. We were much better after the substitutions but to be fair Cambridge wanted it more than us at the end and I actually thought their late free kick should have been a pen anyway. We just have to stop this negative sideways stuff all the time, especially against teams that dig in like Cambridge do. Shame Dions and Dans shots didn’t finish the game off so we can’t say we didn’t have chances to win but all in all I don’t think we did enough and a point is all we deserved.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 10, 2023 16:06:11 GMT
On that showing I expect Oxford to leather us😡😡😡
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Post by one2many on Apr 10, 2023 16:07:47 GMT
Shoretire, Victor and Jerome look rubbish and sadly will not assist us much in the run in unlesss they improve dramatically. They certainly are not good enough to start. Nlundulu does well as a sort of headless chicken type of substitute but is another one who does not impress. Mbete is only playing as there are no other defenders fit. Not a great transfer window was it?! I understand the need to rest players, but that backfired big time today and resulted in two points dropped.
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Post by OohMac on Apr 10, 2023 16:10:05 GMT
If people want to know why I don't like Evatt this game will sum it up for you. Bumper crowd, fans should be well up for it and THAT. One of the dullest, worst performances I've seen. So slow, ponderous and laboured. No wonder they kept saying how well organised this really poor Cambridge team were. We let them be.
We are well back into Evatt territory of slow build up, walking football and the belief that we tire them out.
Actually thought Cambridge were an awful team but well worthy of a point. They should have nodded in an equaliser when Morley shit off and allowed thier striker to keep the ball in play.
Aimson or Mbete? Completely no brainer for me.
Possible season wrecking performance that. What excuses for that?
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Apr 10, 2023 16:11:43 GMT
Shoretire, Victor and Jerome look rubbish and sadly will not assist us much in the run in unlesss they improve dramatically. They certainly are not good enough to start. Nlundulu does well as a sort of headless chicken type of substitute but is another one who does not impress. Mbete is only playing as there are no other defenders fit. Not a great transfer window was it?! I understand the need to rest players, but that backfired big time today and resulted in two points dropped. I don't understand the need to rest players and you play your best 11. If these players can't play 2 games every other week....on thousands of pounds a week, get rid of them.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 10, 2023 16:20:43 GMT
Point deserved? Poor poor poor All Evatt’s fault that, needless changes No more Shitehire, Mbete please We could have lost that Not entirely sure that’s fair because I’d have gone with Vic and Cam up top to start but where I think he made a mistake was completely changing midfield because we were just awful today and far too slow getting the ball moving. We were much better after the substitutions but to be fair Cambridge wanted it more than us at the end and I actually thought their late free kick should have been a pen anyway. We just have to stop this negative sideways stuff all the time, especially against teams that dig in like Cambridge do. Shame Dions and Dans shots didn’t finish the game off so we can’t say we didn’t have chances to win but all in all I don’t think we did enough and a point is all we deserved. In my view it’s fair W63 Evatt does this far too often, changes a winning side That side picked today, instead of just going for it, get the goals, attack attack attack, he did Mark Bonners job for him by ‘carefully selecting’ a side to hustle and bustle the Cambridge defence (which didn’t work at all by the way) with muscle from Jerome and Vic, rather than go with your gut, go for speed, danger, use your top marksman and stick with the team that has been doing ok of late. Crikey, it’s even git me marvelling at Kachunga for crying out loud. Everyone on Planet Zog could expect that Cambridge rearguard today, so why not play to our strengths than theirs?? And please, no more Shitehire, Mbete Vic or Thomasson, he’s L2 level at best Massive 2 points dropped and a draw handed to Cambridge today, that’s why I’m saying it was poor W63 I also think Cambridge earned their away point the minute they saw the much reformed and sadly missed Santos holding up the Pizza Cup
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Post by OohMac on Apr 10, 2023 16:25:19 GMT
Does Ian want a lift to Blackpool by the way? You might say that's harsh after last week but Papa John's was not his objective. Good as it was.
I've just seen us play too many games against Harrogate, Barrow, Grimsby etc when we should be battering and we just always always give them a chance with such a lack lustre performance.
I'm sure a dinosaur manager would work so much better on upping the tempo, attacking from the get go and going direct. Evattball is frankly boring and anchoring this team.
We looked so good in January again when players didn't know the Evatt way.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 10, 2023 17:07:19 GMT
Come on guys, yes today was a disappointment but whichever team Evatt puts out should be able to do better than we did today as they’re all training with each other all week and all following the same planning. I could see why Evatt started with Vic and Cameron up top but I agree it backfired and he changed it early in the second half and we started to look a lot better, got in front and we’re unlucky not to go further up. Had we done so and won I don’t think there would have been as much criticism as there is. Obviously when they went behind they were in the position that they needed to throw everything at us and I’ve no doubts that had we had Toal and Rico we’d have won today comfortably. You just can’t ignore the size of that loss and the effect it’s having. Neither Jones nor Johnson are out and out centre halves, they’re not big enough and Mbete is just a kid still learning. The problem is that we don’t have any alternatives so we’re stuck with it. I wasn’t surprised with todays game because I always considered this could be an accident waiting to happen. Would I have made so many changes, especially to midfield? No I certainly wouldn’t it completely disrupted us and I think was unnecessary so yes on that I thought IE got it wrong but it’s unfair to lay all the blame on him when the players he brought in let him down. I personally don’t want to see Shortire again, have little confidence Adeboyejo will be what we hoped and can only hope that Mbete improves as he learns. A bad day at the office today and little credit to anyone but on the bright side others slipped up and we’re still in the top six with a game in hand. I feel sorry for the 25k who went today expecting a thumping performance, they were short changed but we go again now at Oxford and another game we should be capable of winning.
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Post by andyl on Apr 10, 2023 17:08:32 GMT
If IE was feted at Wembley it was quite the reverse today.
We saw a complete mismatch of styles with two left footed defenders neither of whom can pass ponderously playing side to side whilst two immobile forwards waited in vain for any kind of service short or preferably long.
Mbeite and Shoretire are quite obviously not good enough to start or as Mbeite proved to finish. Kids won't cut it in this division unless they have the talent of Trafford or Bradley. Even Bradley struggles a lot of the time attacking as he doesn't have it to go take on a defender on the outside.
Half time suggested a reset in defence perhaps with Jones or MJ to centre right and Mbeite off or alternatively Bradley to the back
But no we continued as we were. Sheehan had huffed and puffed and was our only hope but even he missed a pass to attract the Evatt hook.
Things did improve a bit. Lee and Morley moved us forward a bit and we also looked for John more. We had a few good chances. Johm rammed one in. Charles hit a post unluckily and Blundulerubuss put in a good shift.
However we were very vulnerable aerially throughout so when Cambridge rehearsed an equaliser nodding wide it was no great surprise that they equalised after Mbeite's biggest error- must have been close to a penalty anyway. What else? Nothing much. Saw Santos and Bodvarsson outside after the game. We won't see either this season- Santos could barely walk.
Trafford 7 should have kicked more long balls, Jones 6 Johnston 5 Mbeite 0 John 6 Bradley 6 Sheehan 7 Thomasson 5 Jerome 3 Odebayejo 3 Shoretire 0..
Subs all made a difference 6 the group but too late , all at once, and it felt panicky- also didn't address the real problem Mbeite in general and the distortion of two non- passing left footers in harness.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 10, 2023 17:19:24 GMT
A very harsh summary that Andy. I’m not disagreeing that we’re weak at the back but to be honest I just don’t see your replacements for Mbete improving anything. I actually didn’t think he was much worse than many others and in fact only Declan John seemed to have the bottle to try to make forward runs, everybody else just received the ball turning backwards which I hate to see. It’s also a little unfair to blame the defenders for going sideways when there is no movement in front of them. We were just static today and allowed Cambridge to set two banks of four which we never attempted to move around until Morley and Lee came on after the break. I think we’re going to have to accept that Jones, Johnson and Mbete are going to be it whether we like it or not as we have zero alternatives. I’m not though as depressed as some seem to be, it was a bad day today and I don’t think IE will start that team again so I expect to see a return to the Exeter set up against Oxford where I think we’ll move the ball much better and more quickly and return to winning ways.
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Post by andyl on Apr 10, 2023 18:08:05 GMT
Hmm. Oxford. They played us off the park in our home game. Defence can be adjusted and should have been. I like that we play from the back but Johnston and especially Mbeite can't do it so Trafford must play longer if he can't get a midfielder or flanker away.
Time and time today we passed to Mbeite and almost all the time he passed straight back. Hopeless.Should be a fine for anyone passing to him.
Defensively he only made the one big error. So if ,and for me it's a big if , he has to play then we must play longer balls.In truth though he's not as good as Liam Gordon or Beck. Also this time last year we had Aimson.
Why don't we recall Adam Senior? He could surely be back up if he can be registered.
Anyway MJ could help. Might have seen us home today?
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Post by kenglowhite on Apr 10, 2023 18:27:22 GMT
Can't understand with so much at stake, why Evatt didn't start with as near as possible to the Wembley eleven. So far I have not seem any explanation for the absence of Dempsey, but he was missed. I am certain that starting the game with Morley and Charles, even if taking them off later, was necessary against a team basing their game on defence as Cambridge need to do. I think Santos's absence is going to be crucial, because Johnston particularly slowed the game up and like Mbete could only muster passes sideways as neither has a trusty right foot. Against a team defending as deep as Cambridge did you have to use longer and wider balls, and allow them to make s few mistakes. Because of our slow build-up they rarely did. It is easy to complain about the first half strikers, but they received no service at all. Even when playing our best football after the substitutions we missed a couple of pretty good chances. But really Evatt's first half team is the reason we have dropped down the table, sending our play-off hopes badly askew.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 10, 2023 19:16:19 GMT
As mentioned elsewhere, the second half at Exeter and the first half today, worst we’ve played for some time
I’ve had time to calm down now… and I’m still fkn angry 😡😡
With Ipswich and Barnsley out of site I’ve just done a quick prediction for the mini league we now find ourselves in
Peterborough P46 80 points (they just can’t stop scoring)
Bolton P46 80 points
Derby P46 80 points
Wycombe P46 79 points (these cannot stop scoring either)
It’s going to be down to goal difference if my predictions were to come to fruition
And to think, we thumped the Posh 5-0 in their own garden😞, so it’s a battle between Bolton and Derby for 6th (I’m crap at predicting but I’d still take that in a heartbeat)
Sort it Evatt
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