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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 7, 2022 10:58:12 GMT
That was some performance from Portugal Different level to us, albeit Switzerland we’re as bad as Korea Yet another shock… How poor were Spain?? listened to Spain game on Radio5live, surprisingly good punditry by Pat Nevin. he is a bit of Guardian-reading "progressive". i.e not some perceived dinosaur like BSA etc, and EVEN he, was frustrated by the Tiki taka Spanish style ( aka Evatt style) ...saying stuff like...." just get a centre forward on who's gonna make strikers runs. get a winger who will beat someone. etc. stop trying to walk into the net. it's all too slow and ponderous. Morocco can just sit and wait for them, all so predictable. later Spanish pundit Guillem Balague was also very very good. saying stuff like.... "we don't shoot from outside the box, rarely cross it. also said they're just obsessed with trying to recreate 2010, when they won. he said Football's moved on, tactics evolve as they always do. and good generations come & go. Spain had 1 shot on target in 120 mins+ ( scroll well down for the match stats ). www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63789751this stat is a belter. just 3 wins at 3 diff world cups since 2010 and all against crap sides. that's the sound of Evatt slumped to the ground. he's spent 10 years following & blindly copying a bandwagon that's going the wrong way !!! Craig Burley sums it up well from about 4.48 in the vid. the frustration of refusing to take shots.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 7, 2022 12:06:37 GMT
re my post above, more of that detail from Guillem B. first 5 mins mainly...but especially from about 2.40 for next min or 2. so much could apply to BWFC !!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 7, 2022 12:22:40 GMT
I thought Gab Marcotti was describing Evatt’s football for a minute😂😂
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 7, 2022 14:34:29 GMT
Qatar World Cup Quarter Finals England v France Thats how it’s billed
So is the psychological pressure on England as the ‘home’ team, or on France as the ‘away’ team??
My penneth, for what it’s worth, i really do hope we don’t pin too much conversation on ‘can Kyle Walker cope with Mbappe’
This is a game where we have absolutely nothing to fear and nothing to lose, they are World Champions, that should be all the motivation we need, oh, and they’re French, which gives added motivation 😂😂😂
Having said that, I don’t want 35 minutes of caution before we realise that actually, we’re not a bad side, we can play, so why don’t we just go and can kick it up em
Let them worry about us
We have an array of talent and 70% of our first team have scored a goal, they only have the ever dangerous Giroud and the pacey Mbappe, but we will have to shoot more as I have zero confidence in Hugo Lloris, so why not try our luck from distance more than once
We can do this We can get to the semi’s We can
We can
COYE ⚽️🏴⚽️🏴⚽️🏴⚽️🏴⚽️🏴⚽️🏴⚽️🏴
Edit: just realised, should we produce the ‘immaculate’ performance and beat France, I would heavily fancy us against either of the other teams vying for a semi spot in Portugal and Morocco COYE 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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Post by OohMac on Dec 8, 2022 8:41:08 GMT
Hmm. I always thought Southgate would play 433 up until we got a big hitter and then go 5 at the back. Can definitelt see the advantage of having walker in the back 3 and trippier still rb. I dont think that works as well on the left with shaw & maguire.
Is it naive to think were scoring goals, conceding just one from open play and have never trailed in the comp. Why change that? Well one word mbappe.
Think rice is a doubt which is a blow and i assume sterling is out too which i dont mind. I think wilson isnt fit either, bad mistake to pick him in truth. Madison i doubt well see.
Know some fans would prefer 3 points for bolton and could care less for England. Im the opposite England priority for the big stage. Through with evatt.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 8, 2022 9:56:36 GMT
Sterling is back, which could be a distraction and his head might not be fully into it (which we can understand given the situation at his home)
I’m hoping for a Super Saturday and we have a win for both Wanderers and England
COYWM COYE 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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Post by OohMac on Dec 9, 2022 8:33:37 GMT
England vs France: match subthread
Was going to create the shrewsbury Bolton one but then, as said before, care very little at the moment. Got such a disconnect with the team. Crazy to think that given league position. So its all about le coupe de monde as i learnt in 98...maybe learnt it with spelling issues.
So team.
Well i would stick with formation and shape. We have only conceded ond legitimate goal, when we were 4 up, im discounting the farce 2nd iran goal. Never a pen. And we're, when we get going free scoring.
A lot of talk about the improvement by African teams, well we dumped the African champions out at ease in 2nd gear.
If rice isnt fit then do we do like for like with phillips. Or drop Henderson back and give mount and Bellingham the roles to advance. Could argue that we have players like Foden, grealish, madison who can go into that middle but think mount is the more balanced option. Plus i dont take Foden our of his wide left role. Then you've got saka rashford debate and i guess grealish falls into that debate but not really this tournament. Hes like the lib dems 3rd choice, some support but it aint happening.
Guess its a pretty settled side that almost picks itself. And im going England 2 France 0.
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 9, 2022 8:59:37 GMT
Yes I’ll go 2-0 to England as well OM, I think we’ll be too good for France, including Mbappe. I don’t think the starting team will be much different than against Senegal and to be fair it shouldn’t be. As for the Africans, I can’t see any getting to the semis, they’ve done well so far but against poor opposition it seems to me. As for Wanderers, I don’t think we’ll miss a thread this week because given the weather I can’t see any way it will be on, whatever covers they’ve put over the pitch. Hope it is though because it would be nice to make it a double win alongside the 3 loins. 😉
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Post by kenglowhite on Dec 9, 2022 9:41:20 GMT
I, too, would go for the same team. I find myself having to retract my earlier criticism of Southgate. After the USA he has at last struck the right blend, and begun making substitutions at the right time. He has realised the right position for Foden and kept out the nondescript Mount, though I woold still prefer a genuine right-footed player on the right wing. much as I like Saka. I used to dislike the short-passing game of Henderson, but his more physical and long-passing style now makes him ideal for a general in midfield. All the talk about France is of Mbappe, but the one I really fear is Griezmann, my player of the tournament so far. He is the one who pulls the strings. For years I have thought him overrated, but now he is fulfilling all the good things said about him, which he never seemed to achieve in top football. I think we should win, but it will be a great game.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 9, 2022 11:04:11 GMT
It surely has to be one of those games!! It can’t be 2-0 0r 1-0 for either team
When the likes of Stones and Maguire are facing an attacking front six of Rabiot, Tchoumeni,Dembele, Griezman, Mbappe and Giroud, it’s got to be the cavalier approach and just pummel their defence, because if we don’t and we play the ‘Southgate Safeway’ we’ll get hammered 3-0
I have said that we should be letting them worry about us rather than the other war around, but you cannot help being a little frightened of them 6 going at you for 90+ minutes
We have to be on the front foot from the dressing rooms to the end of the game and even penalties (hope we’ve been practicing because Pickford isn’t all that when it comes to saving pens)
Come on you ENGLAND
We can do this
We can
We can🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 9, 2022 20:24:08 GMT
Anyone else see Croatia come from nowhere to a semi final spot at the expense of the favourites Brazil??
I’ve just got the lasting images of them dancing for joy after every goal v Korea and that’s why football can be a great leveller at times.
This is turning out to be some World Cup
I’d love to meet the Argy’s in the final 40 years after the Falkland's invasion, would be nice to finish em off on the world football stage
COYE 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
I nip to the shops and the Dutch come back from 2-0 down to equalise with the most sublime of free kicks - 99minutes and 50 seconds out of 100 minutes and you’d have to be a complete fruitcake to attempt that. So audacious Funniest but was seeing the player lying down behind the wall to prevent the pea roller and all he could do was watch from the best angle😂😂😂😂 Last 15 of ET, who’s going through🤔🤔🤔
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 10, 2022 18:46:46 GMT
Surely this is the year of the underdog!! And I claim England to be the underdog versus the World champions
Belgium Portugal Germany Brazil Netherlands Spain
Big big names all bitten the dust Come on England, it’s our turn to be the underdogs and show the French who’s the best We all need a tonic after that disaster at Gay Meadow or whatever it’s new name is
Bit worried about our front 6 compared to theirs, but let’s see Can’t understand why Rashfords not starting🤔
COYE 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴 We can do this
We can
We can 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 10, 2022 19:15:38 GMT
14 mins in and France are precise and meaningful with their forward movement. It’s frightening seeing them attack
We look a bit dis interested, slouchy and slow to the ball Luke Shaw caught in no man’s land when Giroud had a dangerous moment to head straight at Pickford It’s only a matter of time before the Frogs go one up if we don’t get with it Come on England🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 10, 2022 19:17:09 GMT
Shit
What did I just say😡😡😡😡😡
1-0 to the Frogs
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 10, 2022 19:24:05 GMT
Be good if Foden and Bellingham were playing🤔🤔🤔
Oh no, wait a minute, they are🤔🤔🤔
Come On England 🏴 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
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