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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 29, 2022 15:06:34 GMT
44th minute before we get our 1st shot again ( & it was even on target ) , then suddenly 2 more come along ( off target the latter 2 ) . Oxford have had 7, with 2 on target .
a lot of other results going the big teams way. Sheff wed, Derby, Peterboro, Barnsley, Wycombe, Ipswich.
Oxford haven't kept a clean sheet away, so i'd imagine we'll get 1 back, and possibly another late late show, but we can't keep doing that.
these late winners are supposed to give the lads a boost, how do we start so flat time and time again. after Accrington, you think , the lads 'll be skipping. then you get 4 shots in 80mins with zero on target !.
same again today.
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Post by OohMac on Oct 29, 2022 15:06:51 GMT
Evatt really would prefer to lose on his terms than succeed by changing it.
Cant lose face by listening to fans.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 29, 2022 15:17:16 GMT
And there you have it
2-0 to Oxford
Fkn pathetic
Evatt GO
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Post by OohMac on Oct 29, 2022 15:25:03 GMT
I'm not even saying Evatt Out!
But Evatt. Change your busted flush system that teams have figured out. 433, 424. Dapo wide left. Bradley wide right and we become a much better team.
If youre not willing to change and improve then yeah, I lose confidence in you and would be looking to bring someone else in.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 29, 2022 15:38:15 GMT
I'm not even saying Evatt Out! But Evatt. Change your busted flush system that teams have figured out. 433, 424. Dapo wide left. Bradley wide right and we become a much better team. If youre not willing to change and improve then yeah, I lose confidence in you and would be looking to bring someone else in. I am OooM In fact, if FV don’t want to get rid of him then they should bugger off too Please, don’t anyone blame the ref (he is poor but it’s not his fault we are shit) They can’t score They can’t win away Bottom end of the league Few of their best players are out Managers in the stands And still, they are bullying their way to a win COYWM sort this crap out NOW |
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Post by kenglowhite on Oct 29, 2022 16:20:26 GMT
Evatt seems to have lost it. Played like strangers today. Defence awful, passing and first touch awful, corner conversion rubbish. Oxford scored from two corners and could have had a few more from goalmouth scrambles after corners. What has Evatt done to Dapo - never a bleat from him after coming on as sub? Where is John, a key element previously in attacking down the left? These lot were more physical than Burton and we let them get away with it.
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Post by andyl on Oct 29, 2022 16:23:23 GMT
No appetite for detailed analysis. Outplayed in every position and deserved defeat.
Can anyone remember another big centre half at Bolton or elsewhere who hasn't taken a man at set pieces? Ours isn't good enough. Goal 2 was definitely down to Santos dozily backing off . Goal three he was absent. Couldn't tell on one but it had the signs of him. Jones was even worse, directly to blame for goals 1 and 3. Neither of them made a good pass throughout. Bradley made good runs but with no end product.
Glad Charles got a goal and Saddlier and Bodvarsson spiced up our occasional forays but all told we weren't in it from the moment we presumably lost the toss and kicked the wrong way.
Trafford 5 Jones0. Santos 1 Johnston 4 Iredale 4 Williams 6 Lee 5 Sheehan 6 Bradley 5 Charles5 Kachunga 4 Subs 4 plus one for Saddlier and Bodvarsson
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Post by andyl on Oct 29, 2022 17:05:50 GMT
Incidentally why start with Kachunga and Charles and then hit continuous long high balls - which is what we did.? They played all the football
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Post by realtrottersforever on Oct 29, 2022 17:33:18 GMT
www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/8/Seasons/9142/Stages/21051/TeamStatistics/England-League-One-2022-2023just a reminder what the benchmarks for a good attacking performance should look like. average shots per game. Peterboro top with 19.6 we are in 16th with 12.7 below the likes of bristol rovers, exeter & port vale who are all promoted sides !! MK Dons sit bottom with 8.5 per game . the rankings can sometimes give a false impression if there's a lot of teams bunched in the middle, but our number of 12.7 per game is obviously closer to the bottom than the top too. 4 from bottom , yet 7 from the top. !! for (average ) shots on target, similar story. best are P'boro with 6 per game. we're ranked 15th with 4. ( home games only these are) worst are Lincoln with 2.8 per game.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Oct 29, 2022 17:55:55 GMT
AndyL
That’s the most bang on statement I’ve seen or heard today
They played all the football
Evatt, hang your head in shame😞
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Post by davidm on Oct 29, 2022 18:26:53 GMT
I said this would be a difficult match and I was right unfortunately.
A truly bad performance and for all you “Evatt-Out” guys and girls on here, I point the finger towards the manager!
Last Saturday Afolayan destroyed Accrington and won us the game. Last Tuesday Bodvarsson changed the game against Burton and eventually won us the game. Last Tuesday, Bakayoko got us back into the game against Burton.
What happened today? Afolayan & Bodvarsson were dropped to the bench and Bakayoko was nowhere.
We set off as usual with some nice passing but no shooting. After 25 mins of nice passing, we were done and everything became aimless and still no shots.
Oxford had been OK but had obviously watched the Accrington and Burton games and saw how bad we are at defending high balls/throw ins into the box. They launched 2 or 3 throws and pandemonium occurred. We just could not defend them and it was mass panic in our box.
Somehow, we escaped but then Jones blundered badly defending and was skinned down the left. Their man got into the area, pulled the ball back and after a scramble the ball finished up in the net. Poor from Jones and just no authority in our central defence.
Minutes later a similar scramble occurred and Trafford, I think, managed to block a goal bound shot. It could easily have been 0-2.
In the 43rd minute, we had our first shot on target. Bradley and Lee combined down to right for a ball across that Sheehan should have scored with. The keeper made a good block but it should have been a goal.
So half time, 0-1 down and just 1 shot in the entire half.
Afolayan came on at half time for the aimless Iredale whose passing, along with many others, had been abysmal but we played him too deep at left wing back.
Nothing really changed. We pressed but never got a shot in (I am not counting Afolayan’s weak trickle shot that the keeper could have blown away).
Bradley then lost the ball in midfield. There was an enormous gap in midfield. Their guy ran forwards, we backed off so he let rip a good shot just inside the post for 0-2.
So the game looked over. The manager made all his subs and we pushed a bit. Then Sadlier and Bradley combined to put Charles through on the right for a good finish. So 1-2 and all to play for.
But No – we just gave in again. Oxford easily won a couple of corners and from the 2nd, the ball was lobbed in. Nobody challenged for the ball and their guy headed in. Trafford claimed a foul but no way. I so desperately want our central defenders to learn to defend high balls. There was just no challenge for the ball from the corner.
That then finished us A bit of huffing and puffing. Oxford used all the dark arts to win the game – as we would if we were 2-0 up and 3-1 up away from home so no complaints there.
A truly dreadful performance. Lacklustre, no urgency when we were losing, Just 3 shots on target.
A really strange choice for the starting team following the last 2 matches and a deserved defeat.
Marks:-
Trafford - 5 Some usual good work but not strong enough on the 3rd goal. He may claim he was fouled but he was weak
Bradley - 5 Some runs. Assist on the goal but too many misplaced passes
Jones - 2 Dreadful defending. Totally caught out on the 1st goal and some dreadful passes
Santos - 2 As I said last week, first and foremost I want my central defenders to dominate our penalty box. Clear the ball with good strong headers. There was none of that. He might like to heave people off the ball but his defensive capability is poor. Could easily have conceded a penalty at 0-2.
Johnston - 3 Like Santos, he cannot head the ball clear when it is thrown into our box
Iredale - 3 Some of the poorest passes you could see
Williams - 3 Booked early and a passenger. No midfield control at all
Sheehan - 5 Busy. Should have scored with our only shot on target in the 1st half.
Lee - 5 Some neat work but the final pass wasn’t there
Kachunga - 3 Dreadful yet again. How many times was he offside? How many times did he finish on the floor? Did he have any shots?
Charles - 5 Took his goal well. Could easily have been booked for diving in the 1st half
Afolayan - 4 Wasted at left wing back. Much too deep.
Bodvarsson - 4 Miskicked a good chance
Dempsey - 5 Started busily enough then faded
Sadlier - 5 Assist for the goal. At least looked interested.
Morley - 4 Some decent passing late on but it was all too late by then
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Post by OohMac on Oct 29, 2022 18:42:06 GMT
Simply put the managers decision today was simply stubborness and ego based.
Its not an easy league, we know that, and our position is still strong in it. But take the last 6 games and use those to project where we will end up. It aint play offs. Is it even top half.
And yet we have the strongest most balanced squad in recent memory.
Lose the handbrake. Either with fresh ideas or fresh manager.
Is there anyone at all apart from Evatt wants to see us START with a 352?
But also is this the "softest" side we have ever had?
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Post by chip on Oct 29, 2022 21:14:29 GMT
I've just got home and I'm fuming as that was rubbish to get beat 3-1 at home as easy as that is no laughing matter and to have arguments with your own fans because I won't be a happy clapper and think everything is find and we have nothing to moan about makes my blood boil. Half off me thinks stuff it as I can't be doing being told to stop moaning and encourage them when we play as crap as that rant over good night. Onwards and upwards COYWM
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Post by andyl on Oct 30, 2022 1:35:04 GMT
I have watched the goals back. Santos is at fault for all three taking by my reckoning his personal gola against column to 8, not as high as last year which pre Xmas had been boosted by 4 v Wigan and 5 at Stockport.
Yesterday goal one- Jones is bested and Santos leaves man to favour his Giant Lummox role, using half turned body to block shot a couple of yards away having dropped back also blocking Trafford.. He does block shot but cannot react. Johnston also slow.
Goal 2 Bradley is caught by a break. Santos backs off with a man who he is not watching. Too late he sees danger but gets nowhere near. Either man could score but unopposed attacker takes on. By this point we have only Dapo at left of centre but he has not covered.
Goal 3 worst of all. Santos backs away and cowers as any one of three Oxford attackers launch at the ball unopposed. - we should look at that as a model of what we should do at attacking set pieces.
If we throw in an obvious penalty and a couple of grotesque barges and add to his dissent yellow he could have been sent off. Had he been although Aimson was not on the bench we might not have lost.
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Post by davidm on Oct 30, 2022 8:41:56 GMT
I have blatantly copied this from someone called Ani on wanderersways but it matches my thoughts perfectly, particularly on Santos:-
Today highlights that Evatt needs to decide his best XI and stick to it.
The switching round leaves you totally changing midfield and a 3 that was never going to work.
We can all have an opinion of what the best XI is and injuries and form mean it will change at times but it is time to stop tinkering.
Our captain is also a school ground bully who loves using his strength to batter players as balls are running out of play but is nowhere when there is a physical battle in either area.
We are not 'shit' but today was and IMO the manager who I usually like has to take a lot of the responsibility.
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