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Post by kenglowhite on Sept 4, 2022 11:42:57 GMT
Although usually a supporter of Santos, I was concerned on Saturday to see him pushing on the back of his opposing striker at every challenge. Surprisingly he wasn't penalised much, but from this it is possible to see how it often turns into arm wrestling and then holding on to an opponent, which has resulted in red cards for him.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 4, 2022 19:57:12 GMT
Lots of positives. Bradley, Thomason, Lee all looking pretty good. Trafford making some great stops. Santos was error free.
And we showed spirit to come back.
But there are some real negatives too. Defensive lapses giving a goal away and think better teams than Charlton would have had more goals.
But biggest concern was that these strikers do not lool in sync at all. Charles did better but he and Baka wouldnt be a combo i'd rush back too.
Actually think the quantity over quality will see us struggle and Dapo is no striker.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 4, 2022 22:04:55 GMT
I fully agree on the striker situation OM and your opinion of Baka. I’m afraid I’ve never rated him despite his scoring a few last year. His all round play is awful and he doesn’t look like forming any kind of relationship with Charles. As you say, Dapo is no striker and he’s no No10 either and needs to be moved back to his position on the left if he’s going to rediscover his form. An added problem is Evatt’s continued belief in Kachunga. Like Baka, he has no discernible qualities either and I really can’t see how he keeps getting a shout. The best forward partnership for me would be Dion and Bod when he’s fit but why not give Sadlier a chance up top with Charles? Surely he couldn’t be any worse, can head better and shoot with both feet. I think he could do a good job there but I don’t think Evatt sees it that way. Obviously we’d like the strikers to be scoring but on the positive side, for us to be doing so well without them must bode well for when they do find their shooting boots?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 5, 2022 14:27:28 GMT
I’d go as far as to say that we are desperate for a striker alongside Dion Charles
All these players that Evatt was offered before the end of TDD, can we still make loan signings or non contracted player signings?? Perhaps there’s an untapped gem waiting to be snapped up
Rioch, Allardyce and even Toddy would have made good use of those unconnected players back in the day.
What about the ‘sons of the Scandinavian market’ that we used to prosper so well from? I miss those Johannson’s, Frandsen’s Gudjohnnsson’s and Gunlaugsson’s
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Post by kenglowhite on Sept 5, 2022 21:34:17 GMT
RFTR - surely you must have noticed they're all with Thomas Frank at Brentford. Somehow we've lost the connection, but regarding our strike force you must feel the return of JDB from our Iceland connection will make a big difference.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 6, 2022 10:05:19 GMT
My thoughts on JDB Ken, he’s a grafter and defenders hate him, but if there’s a disconnect between him and Dion, a lack of unity, a chemistry (which there isn’t) he won’t score and Dion won’t benefit from him A Cole Stockton or an Alfie May alongside Dion, now we’re talking, that’s the type of front 2 I’d be wishing for, but I’ll give JDB all my support but not Kacha or Bak alongside DC, they just don’t work. Am I being over generous on DC here? I mean, he’s hardly lit the place up ‘that’ much
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 6, 2022 13:07:45 GMT
Naturally I agree on Baka and Kacha rioch and I have to say that the jury’s out for me on Bod because I haven’t really seen enough of him yet to be sure. Actually I’m still not convinced with Dion either and although he runs about a lot and upsets defences, he doesn’t look much of an actual scorer. Maybe it’s the system Evatt’s playing that’s not giving him the opportunity when he’s chasing defenders instead of being in the box. I do wonder if there’s a fundamental weakness with Evatt from an attacking point of view. I mean we’re hopeless at set pieces and never seem to cause the opposition problems and instead of getting players up the field quickly, like Charles, who could get into the box, we slow everything down with the slowly slowly sideways stuff allowing defences to get back and reform. I have to say that his lack of use of Sadlier, especially compared with Kachunga, really surprises me. The fact that he’s given him the No7 shirt sort of indicated that he would be a first team player but he’s been hardly used despite doing well when he has. Why not try him up front with Dion as he has with Kachunga, surely he’s worth a shot? You could blame it on his being a defender but then he can’t seem to get that right either. He seems to be good in the middle but that neither directly wins or loses us games does it?
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Post by riochforthereebok on Sept 7, 2022 8:43:23 GMT
I think you’re spot on there W63 Maybe it is staring us in the face and it is Evatt’s tactics, or lack of them. I’ve heard a few mention Sadlier as a foil for Dion and thinking back, maybe that’s obviously why Doyle struggled so much, he was on his own. Dion might as well be on his own when paired with Kach or Bak as they’re not out and out front men. There’s usually one ‘Worldy’ moment in a game where you think, wow, that was some pass Kacha and then…… nowt
And this just highlights Evatt’s stubbornness, because to his managers (SB/FV) he has played lip service to them by saving their cash and telling them and us fans that we didn’t need anyone else up top, we didn’t need anyone on TDD (poor Marc Illes wasting 12 hours bless him) we already have enough, you know, quality over quantity and in Kacha and Bak, we have 3rd rate, at best, strikers to help us get the goals. Not good enough So we are where we are and stuck, possibly until January, with what we have so let’s just get on with it, but I cannot help thinking Evatt’s missed a chance to get a goal scorer to lift us to promotion
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 7, 2022 9:35:56 GMT
I think you’re spot on there W63 Maybe it is staring us in the face and it is Evatt’s tactics, or lack of them. I’ve heard a few mention Sadlier as a foil for Dion and thinking back, maybe that’s obviously why Doyle struggled so much, he was on his own. Dion might as well be on his own when paired with Kach or Bak as they’re not out and out front men. There’s usually one ‘Worldy’ moment in a game where you think, wow, that was some pass Kacha and then…… nowt And this just highlights Evatt’s stubbornness, because to his managers (SB/FV) he has played lip service to them by saving their cash and telling them and us fans that we didn’t need anyone else up top, we didn’t need anyone on TDD (poor Marc Illes wasting 12 hours bless him) we already have enough, you know, quality over quantity and in Kacha and Bak, we have 3rd rate, at best, strikers to help us get the goals. Not good enough So we are where we are and stuck, possibly until January, with what we have so let’s just get on with it, but I cannot help thinking Evatt’s missed a chance to get a goal scorer to lift us to promotion Well I accept that Evatt is a pro, sees the players every day and knows better what he wants but I must admit to being completely perplexed by his continued loyalty to Baka and Kacha when there are other options available to him like Sadlier. We know that he’s constrained by finance and probably would have had problems farming either of them out anyway. Although we can’t sign or loan contracted players now we can still recruit those out of contract so there could yet be movement if someone decent comes up at the right wages but there’s not much point signing players who won’t really make a difference. Personally, as I stated in the last post, I think we have got the squad but we need a tweak to the system. We know Dapo is different class when he plays wide left so with Bradley doing the business down the right surely we can accommodate his lack of defensive capability by shuffling the others around a bit to cover for him when he’s forward? I’d also like us to break a little more quickly and more often. I accept playing from the back but we regularly fail to catch teams on the counter. Maybe I’m missing something but one way or the other we need to get 5he strikers scoring whatever that takes.
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