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Post by chip on Apr 2, 2022 18:30:38 GMT
š63 we might meet up for a brew next season at the game stay safe one and all COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 2, 2022 18:55:31 GMT
Sounds good to me,take care.
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Post by owdonlad on Apr 2, 2022 19:48:07 GMT
Did nobody else see the push on Katchunga? all set to clear the ball when he was pushed by wiigins No39 finished up in the back of the net and nobody bothered , if you have it on tape play it slow you'll see.
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Post by thegrud1 on Apr 2, 2022 20:38:34 GMT
over the 90 mins we were second best all over the pitch.....for maybe 10 mins we played ok but never dominated,,,,,,overall dont think we deserved the point....but i.ll take it
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Post by davidm on Apr 3, 2022 10:59:17 GMT
over the 90 mins we were second best all over the pitch.....for maybe 10 mins we played ok but never dominated,,,,,,overall dont think we deserved the point....but i.ll take it Canāt agree with that Grud. Yes Wigan dominated the first 30 minutes and I was more than happy to get to half time at only 1-0 down but second half we were easily the best side and could have another couple of goals. So overall, I though a draw was a fair result. We didnāt particularly play well but I thought Wigan were pretty average. They press well and win tackles but after that a lot of their play relies on their opponents making mistakes. We made mistakes in the first half and conceded one but football wise they are not a great side despite the fact that they probably will be champions. You could apply the comment about style of play to Rotherham also. It is little wonder that they regularly struggle in the championship.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 3, 2022 12:12:30 GMT
Yes, those are pretty much my thoughts too davidm. Maybe itās just me though because I didnāt think the players looked at all up for it at any time in the game. We were slow, even lethargic, taking ages to move the ball forward, especially Aimson, then being closed down and forced into a hasty and mostly inaccurate pass. When we play well itās noticeable that the receiver of the ball immediately moves forward but yesterday almost every time we received the ball at the back we stood with it allowing Wigan to pressure us. We constantly allowed Wigan to get players back behind the ball and mark up because of it, especially in the first half. I personally think Evatt is largely to blame for the team he picked. Surely having missed Jones so clearly at RB thatās where he should have started and with Sadlier having proved himself on the right he should have taken the Marlon spot ahead of him. Why leave Aimson there and play Jones out of position. We know Sadlier canāt play the LWB role yet Evatt plays him there with the obvious result and Kachunga would never be starter for me when we have the likes of Bod and Baka to partner Charles. So Iām afraid Evatt, once again trying to be clever, cost us at least the first half with bad selections. I know we can all be armchair managers but some of these decisions are just unfathomable. No doubt he has favourites or plays players like Kachunga just because heās told us all how good he is. Well he might be somewhere but 3xactly where is it because wherever heās played so far heās been poor. So yesterday I was hugely disappointed that since it was our last chance to stay in the chase, we just looked flat and slow, not even rushing to get the game restarted after we scored. Just very disheartening for me and illustrates the big changes needed in the summer if we are to be better next year because this squad wonāt do it.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 3, 2022 15:38:41 GMT
W63
You mentioned Bod and Baka to partner Charles!!
After 7 games without a goal, maybe at the battling end of the season, we need brute force in the aforementioned players then perhaps bring Charles on as an impact sub! Just a thought I know he works do hard for the team and creates enough chances but theyāre not going in for whatever reason, maybe the opposition are prepared for him
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Post by realtrottersforever on Apr 3, 2022 17:15:43 GMT
W63 You mentioned Bod and Baka to partner Charles!! After 7 games without a goal, maybe at the battling end of the season, we need brute force in the aforementioned players then perhaps bring Charles on as an impact sub! Just a thought I know he works do hard for the team and creates enough chances but theyāre not going in for whatever reason, maybe the opposition are prepared for him Or could it be that Evatt has had his coaching hands on him.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 3, 2022 20:27:37 GMT
W63 You mentioned Bod and Baka to partner Charles!! After 7 games without a goal, maybe at the battling end of the season, we need brute force in the aforementioned players then perhaps bring Charles on as an impact sub! Just a thought I know he works do hard for the team and creates enough chances but theyāre not going in for whatever reason, maybe the opposition are prepared for him Or could it be that Evatt has had his coaching hands on him. Could well be that rftr, there are a good many players who have been over coached and suffered from it. Some players just have a natural ability and when theyāre forced to fit into a constrained system, suffer from it. Iām not saying thatās the case with Charles but it does seem strange that after starting so strongly, Dion has gone well backwards. To be fair though, he has had chances and missed them, which on another day could have been different and neither has he had a consistent attack or partner to settle into thanks to Mr Tinker Evatt who opts to change all the time in an effort to keep everyone happy.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Apr 3, 2022 20:27:43 GMT
agree with Whites about the loss of interest, hence my late post. poor start. game of 2 halves. 1st half hardly had a shot never mind 1 on target. just the 1 shot in total. Wigan only had the one on target but several others off target. while DavidM mentions the lack of quality football shown by Wigan, and i'd agree, what they did have, and we matched them on the day for, was at least being hard to break down / hard to beat. gritty. they don't beat themselves .. like the bottom half can do, or us on a bad day . like I said in my preview, they average just 2.5 shots on target conceded per game. and just stayed below that on the day with 2. us even less with just the 1 ( shot on target conceded ). the expected goals was 0.91 Wigan. 0.43 for us. as a matter of record, if anyone is into that type of thing. the line graphs often make more sense than the raw figures. especially the flat-lining in the 1st half by us . ( top left in the above set of images if you don't click the link for more. we're the black line with the obvious flat line first half ) . only listened on radio, so can't comment too much on specifics. Santos sounded like he had one of his better games. on the radio he seemed to be getting the better of Magennis, although I notice JM did win 8 duels, compared to RS's 6. surprising as don't recall hearing 1 that JM won. i've been going on about lack of headed goals. nice to see one from an open play cross. I need to have a check back to see how many that is for the season. a rare goal type by us. 5 headed goals previously. now 6. Bod does seem to have that type of goal in his locker. don't know what this slow start/ strong finish with us. seemed to spend the entire first half losing 50/50 balls / tackles. don't know what's happened to Dion. not 1 shot. goal drought gets even longer. anyone is entitled to a bad run, but considering how bright he shone early on, this is a bit baffling. I thought not having played much in first half ( of the season), he might have been fresher than most & finish strongly, but maybe it's working the other way...fitness not fully there. some players seem to do better playing more... like diesel engines, not sure if that is the case or what . edit- bit more info on those headed goals. 6 so far this season in the lge. 2 for Bod. his prev one was vs Wimbledon at home. from corner by Morley 1. Baka. open play cross by Fossey vs Wimb -home 1 Aimson . freekick charlton -home Morley assist. 1 Doyle- vs Oxford.home. corner by sheehan. 1 Johnston. corner possibly by Morley. flicked on by Gethin. vs Lincoln -h so this latest headed goal by Bod, seems to be just our 2nd from by an open play cross. and seems to be the 1st headed goal away from home ( open play or set piece ). most headed goals in the Div..as a bit of context. 9 for Will Keane. 8 for Michael Smith ( rotherham) 7 Ross Stewart- sunderland 5 for Harry Darling- the mk centre back 5 for Vokes- Wycombe. source : www.whoscored.com/Regions/252/Tournaments/8/Seasons/8620/Stages/19795/PlayerStatistics/England-League-One-2021-2022to browse yourself..click detailed. click goals. select body parts in the drop down . select total. then hit search.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Apr 3, 2022 21:47:45 GMT
forgot to add, I did get my pre-match prediction right 1-1. thankfully you can check i didn't edit it and cheat . didn't bet it on the nose. did have a few pennies on the draw, but it really was that low as couldn't really trust us. tough one to call as could see it going a number of different ways. the 1-1 seemed the most average/middling option of the possibles.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 4, 2022 9:22:06 GMT
Hope you can keep the Higgo thread going RTF
Itās been a right trip down memory Lane, even the non Higgo vids
2 tough home games coming up, Pompey and Wednesday, then a Good Friday trip to Donny I predict 3 points from them 3 gamesš
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Post by realtrottersforever on Apr 4, 2022 10:44:04 GMT
Hope you can keep the Higgo thread going RTF Itās been a right trip down memory Lane, even the non Higgo vids 2 tough home games coming up, Pompey and Wednesday, then a Good Friday trip to Donny I predict 3 points from them 3 gamesš running low on the Higson ones, but will try to put the odd Non-Higson ones on now and again. I think even IE must be watching them now, seeing as we got a very rare headed goal from a cross. doesn't need to be a great crosser or flashy winger..cross from centre back Aimson . MOTD even had a bit of focus on headed goals. Jota ( not the tallest ) has more than anyone. Liverpool have also scored 7 more goals than City, have better goal diff, and lost fewer games, despite spending probably half what Pep has . I'm NO Liverpool fan by any stretch, but prefer Klopp over Pep, and prefer the way they mix up their game more, and get maximum bang for their buck, with their resources. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/table
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 4, 2022 12:53:29 GMT
And heās not that tall either (Jota)
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 4, 2022 13:01:00 GMT
Hope you can keep the Higgo thread going RTF Itās been a right trip down memory Lane, even the non Higgo vids 2 tough home games coming up, Pompey and Wednesday, then a Good Friday trip to Donny I predict 3 points from them 3 gamesš Im a shit fan now, not interested in any more games and even Donny which is local for me Iām not bothering. All about next season now and who Evatt signs and discards. Thereād certainly be a good few going for me because theyāre just not good enough. Time to be cruel!! š
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