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Post by Pedro on Aug 31, 2021 18:02:49 GMT
I cannot get the game on my laptop but it is on the EFL app on my phone. Thrashed last time we met in 2020 and PV have started well - unbeaten. Could be a good game?
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Post by chip on Aug 31, 2021 18:07:45 GMT
Not to bothered but would still like a win 8 changes from Saturday I'll go 2-1 Bolton
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Post by Pedro on Aug 31, 2021 18:37:18 GMT
Nothing on Firefox but okay on Chrome. 1.1 "wicked deflection"
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Post by Pedro on Aug 31, 2021 19:04:43 GMT
Oh dear, we are slipping back to how we were when we were poor to average with little fire power. Great goal for us, cross to unmarked Doyle but that was it. Outplayed by Vale.
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Post by chip on Aug 31, 2021 19:09:47 GMT
This is a very poor game from a Bolton side we are being brushed aside by Port Vale second team. The Fonz has has just scored 2-2 great cross from Isgrove with The Fonz getting on the end of it game on .
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Post by Pedro on Aug 31, 2021 19:15:06 GMT
Naaaaaaaaaathaaaaann!
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Post by Pedro on Aug 31, 2021 19:15:45 GMT
2.2
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Post by chip on Aug 31, 2021 19:32:08 GMT
We seem to be getting better the last 10 minutes now let's go and finish it we don't want pens again
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Post by chip on Aug 31, 2021 19:37:45 GMT
Brilliant goal from Dapo 3-2 COYWM
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Post by Pedro on Aug 31, 2021 19:37:56 GMT
3.2 good goal Dapo
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Post by chip on Aug 31, 2021 19:57:35 GMT
We made very hard work of that 3-2 it finished but the less said about the game the better. Some very sloppy defending but 3 very good goals from us and a win is a win. Stay safe one and all onwards and upwards COYWM
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Post by davidm on Sept 1, 2021 7:47:06 GMT
A strange game. End to end but littered with poor passing.
Port Vale pressed us a lot and we struggled with passing the ball about at the back. The back 4 passed it around but couldn’t find an outlet as the midfield was awful. They found no space for the defenders to pass into and it developed into a mad panic at times in central defence.
The start was pretty even but we scored when Isgrove caught their defender and broke with 2 onto 1. He expertly picked out Doyle, when he could easily have panicked, and Doyle tapped in easily.
The lead did not last long as horrendous possession football in our own area led to a deflected shot getting past Gilks. We had numerous chances to hoof the ball away but insisted on short passes within our area and eventually got caught. Possession football is all very well but we must defend first and foremost.
It got worst when the ball was lost in midfield – yet again – and their striker was left one on one with Santos. He got a shot in which Gilks awfully let go through his hands for a dreadful mistake.
So 1-2 a half time.
Second half we stepped it up a bit and pressed further forward. First half most of our possession had been in our own half.
Tutte managed to drive forward and gain space before finding Isgrove on the right and his centre was headed home by Delfouneso.
Things improved when Afolayan came on as he ran at the Port Vale defence and got the winner with a good shot from the edge of the box.
We still had time to panic as Gilks dropped a centre in the 90th minute and Brockbank blocked the resulting shot on the line.
Quite an entertaining game with 5 goals but loads of poor passing and even more back passing. We even had a free kick 30 yards from their goal which 4 passes later was with Gilks.
A definite need for improvement. The midfield needs to look to receive the ball from the defence and the defence need to learn the art of defending.
Marks:-
Gilks - 3 Badly at fault for the second goal. Dropped a centre in the last minute that could have led to equaliser
Brockbank - 4 Passing was poor
Gordon - 5 Very little support but stretched
Santos - 5 Looked quite casual and given problems. Occasionally needs to learn to welly the ball clear from our 6-yard box.
Baptiste - 5 Outpaced badly a couple of times
Tutte - 5 Steady but not really a ball winner
Delfouneso - 5 Lost the 3 or 4 times in first half. Did well to score.
Thomason - 4 Passing was way off
Kachunga - 4 One rocket shot in second half but it seemed a struggle.
Isgrove - 6 Two assists and hit the post.
Doyle - 5 Nice tap in for first goal. Little service to him.
Afolayan - 6 Good shot for winner. Scared the opposition when he ran with the ball.
Sarcevic - 5 Like at Wigan, hardly noticed him when he came on.
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Post by whitesince63 on Sept 1, 2021 8:06:20 GMT
From those marks David it looks like it was pretty awful? I know we need to make changes and give fringe players a game but I really don’t understand the need to make wholesale changes, especially in key areas like midfield which just totally disrupts the flow of the team. I accept this competition may be relatively unimportant but I’m still annoyed with last weeks capitulation to Wigan and the imbalance it seemed to cause to the team for Saturday against Cambridge. Make one or two adjustments I accept but not the whole fabric of the team. Players get used to relying on others and when you remove that balance it affects the whole side. Anyway, since we didn’t bring anybody in yesterday let’s just hope we’ve got enough to keep us going until January but with key players like Santos looking out of form, Sheehan and Lee missing for a while we need the fringe players to step up so let’s hope they can.
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Post by davidm on Sept 1, 2021 9:29:25 GMT
Well it wasn't awful.
As I said it was quite an entertaining game - a neutral would have enjoyed it.
But, I am not neutral and some of the passing was poor, the inability to pass the ball out from the back was scary.
Midfield worried me terribly.
There is a definite need for improvement before the next match but, presumably, we will have our full side apart from Sheehan.
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Post by OohMac on Sept 1, 2021 10:42:16 GMT
This trophy is a reminder that your third tier and when you throw U21s in you dilute it so much that I have no interest. Still think its a good shout to play(most of) these games in July as pre-season games.
So ive no issue with 11 changes and putting our own kids out.
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