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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 10:23:07 GMT
It makes sense to start Lee and Kachunga and give them at least an hour's play. Nothing gets you match fit than actually playing in the game. Training's fine, but just not the same. Let Dixon have his game time too.
Not too sure about 1-0 david. I think that it will be a high scoring game, played at a good pace. It's a derby and a cup game to boot. Just hope it doesn't go to penalties (unless of course we win)
I'm sure Wigan will be playing a strong team too.
Great following of 4500+ fans though.
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 24, 2021 13:50:57 GMT
Not sure he’ll actually start Kachunga wots, don’t think he’s fit enough yet so he’ll probably stick with Doyle but Lee for me is a definite as are Brocky in place of Jones and Gordon for John. In fact for me Gordon’s looked better than John all season so far. I think Sarce needs a rest and IE may move Sheehan into that role. Some think Rico will be rested but I don’t and think Baps will partner him. I may also give MJ a rest and use either George or even Tutty because IE must have re signed him for something? Whoever plays, it’ll be a really tough game and we’ll do well to win it. I think we might just squeeze it in a 2-3 thriller.
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Post by chip on Aug 24, 2021 18:45:50 GMT
8 changes from Saturday not sure what to make of that. Yes it gives bench warmer's a game but if you had paid for a ticket you might feel a bit miffed I will stick with 2-1 S,S,O,A.A.O,A,U COYWM
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Post by Pedro on Aug 24, 2021 19:15:01 GMT
Sounds like a real Derby game. COYFWM. "a bit more even now" only audio for me now on iFollow in South of France.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 19:36:47 GMT
Sounds like the clogs are on! 4 Wigan players booked and Kachunga for chucking the ball at someone/ lol
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Post by Pedro on Aug 24, 2021 20:32:37 GMT
iFollow buffering on laptop in second half but able to continue with commentary on the EFL app on mobile, sounds like it is going to penalties.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2021 20:49:40 GMT
I knew it! As soon as I saw it was Delfonso to take the penalty, I thought whites will be pulling his hair out... and he did, he missed, skied it!ycmiu
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Post by andyl on Aug 24, 2021 20:49:43 GMT
Delfouneso. Seriously?
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Post by Pedro on Aug 24, 2021 20:51:23 GMT
Guess who lost us the Cup?
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Post by one2many on Aug 24, 2021 21:01:30 GMT
Look on the bright side, Delf only plays in the cups so that is one less competition where we have to watch him.
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 24, 2021 21:27:27 GMT
Well for me he shouldn’t be playing period o2m. I just hope this is the last action he performs for Wanderers because he contributes absolutely nothing, as proved yet again tonight. Just seeing his name in a squad disgusts me because I can’t believe IE can continue to be fooled by him. Anyway, I hope even Evatt realises now that it’s time for his bye bye if we can fool anyone else to take him.
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Post by OohMac on Aug 24, 2021 21:39:36 GMT
I'm not too disheartened to be fair. League is bread and butter and even if this was a league game its an away point.
Weve seen some good pre season games from Darcy. Weve seen Delfouneso. Dont fob us off Ian, if you think Politic needs more games fair enough but no fans think Delf is better Darcy in any position, in any world.
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Post by davidm on Aug 25, 2021 7:41:49 GMT
A disappointing result and, in the end, quite a disappointing performance.
We set off OK and dominated the first half. Dominated to the extent of having most of the possession but we created very little.
Second half we faded and Wigan had most of the possession and created some half chances.
The first half consisted of nearly all our possession and of Wigan kicking Afolayan to bits. There must have been a dozen or so free kicks against Wigan in the first half. Unfortunately, it succeeded because we couldn’t get near the goal. Afolayan had probably our only chance and skied it. Wigan’s chances came mainly from us messing up trying to play the ball out of defence.
I expected more of the same in the second half but the ref seemed to try to even up the foul count and we just lost our way. Neat passing but 30 yards from the goal. Wigan had more attacks and actually got shots on target but it was a bit dire. We just had no spark upfront.
We just looked as though we were happy to go to penalties which is a bad approach.
So penalties and this time there was no Bakayoko or Isgrove to score. The usuals – Doyle, Sarcevic, Sheehan took theirs well but Lee’s was a bit soft and Delfouneso’s was awful. How do you sky a shot over the ball from the penalty spot. When he walked up to take the kick, my heart sunk.
So out of the cup but more worrying for me was that it was a lacklustre performance.
Back to the proper team for Saturday and more urgency please.
Marks:-
Gilks - 6 Little to do. Most shots seemed to be straight at him. One good diving save in the 2nd half.
Brockbank - 5 Disappointing. Caught out a couple of times and, like Jones often does, overhit too many promising centres.
Gordon - 7 Decent performance. Tired and was caught out a bit late on.
Johnston - 7 Steady
Baptiste - 7 Like Johnston he was fine, Solid central defence. Got caught once in 1st half when he tried to bring the ball out of defence.
Sheehan - 6 Not dominant. Neat and tidy but created little.
Thomason - 6 Hard working. A few good passes but faded 2nd half.
Lee - 6 As with all the midfield, neat and tide and passed the ball around but no incisive creative play.
Delfouneso - 5 Poor. He did OK in the first half but nothing much 2nd half. One of the worst penalties you could ever see.
Afolayan - 7 Kicked out of the game. First half, Wigan just took him out every time he ran with the ball. Second half though, they got the measure of him.
Kachunga - 5 Disappointing. He had a few nice touches but posed absolutely no danger to the Wigan defence.
Doyle - 5 Not much service to him for the 25 mins he was on.
Sarcevic - 6 Bright and opened up the Wigan left side for the final 20 minutes.
Jones - 6 Got down the right well but, as we always say, the final ball into the box was poor.
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 25, 2021 7:59:03 GMT
To be fair, I don’t think we could have expected much from a makeshift eleven who hadn’t played together before. I know most of these players (Fonz excluded) needed minutes in case called upon but I do think picking this side and making so many changes was disrespectful to both the fans and the competition. He knew the size of the following and the fervour of the fans for this game and whilst maybe a few of our players needed resting, the majority didn’t and there are other and less important games coming up to pick teams like this in. Whilst I accept the League is the priority, a cup run would have been great but to let the fans down with such a poor performance doesn’t in my opinion build confidence around the place. If there is one positive from last night, it is that Evatt must finally accept that his old pals act with Fonz needs to end and he moves him on to pastures new.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 11:17:10 GMT
To be fair, I don’t think we could have expected much from a makeshift eleven who hadn’t played together before. I know most of these players (Fonz excluded) needed minutes in case called upon but I do think picking this side and making so many changes was disrespectful to both the fans and the competition. He knew the size of the following and the fervour of the fans for this game and whilst maybe a few of our players needed resting, the majority didn’t and there are other and less important games coming up to pick teams like this in. Whilst I accept the League is the priority, a cup run would have been great but to let the fans down with such a poor performance doesn’t in my opinion build confidence around the place. If there is one positive from last night, it is that Evatt must finally accept that his old pals act with Fonz needs to end and he moves him on to pastures new. A very good post whites.
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