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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 13, 2021 16:25:55 GMT
Am I missing something here? Why Dapo off when he’s the only one creating chances and just did for the goal? What’s Delfouneso done YET AGAIN? How on earth does Evatt not see this?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 16:27:04 GMT
Yessssssssssssssssssss at long last Jones with a scrappy goal but it's in 1-0 onwards & upwards
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 13, 2021 16:43:19 GMT
Now I really am missing something. Doyle off for Elbouzedi? What’s that all about? I hope it comes off but that’s lost on me with both George and Miller on the bench. Maybe he’s been good in training?
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 13, 2021 17:00:05 GMT
Well they do say that if you can win when you play badly you must be a decent team and boy we’re we bad today. I know the conditions weren’t easy but we really did make hard work of that. Just as well we won today as well looking at the other scores, all the top 3 winning. Need another 3 points next week too but we’ll have to play better than this.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 17:01:27 GMT
What a very sloppy win but it's a win it keeps us in the mix at the top bring on Walsall next Saturday stay safe one and all onwards and upwards COYWM
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Post by davidm on Mar 13, 2021 17:03:36 GMT
A win when you play poorly - good stuff.
What a poor poor quality match that was. We just could not get going - poor passing, poor ball control.
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Post by andyl on Mar 13, 2021 17:05:48 GMT
Excellent game management and wasn't Elbouzedi just excellent. What a great change.
I was happy enough with the second half. One chance, a slightly lucky goal after a very good movement. We passed well late on. Our strength was Santos and Baptiste. They looked impenetrable throughout.
Gnahoua did indeed add a bit of control. Lee and Williams were dogged with Lee integral to game management. When he hit a poor pass at one point it stood out because of rarity.
There were the usual suspects of concern. Did Delfouneso do anything. Maybe he kept possession a bit. Isgrove ran about not always to greatest effect. But a good squad victory in tough conditions. Port Vale were ok but carried little threat. I thought we were consistent with no obvious poor performers
Gilks 7 Jones 7 Santos 9 Baptiste 8 John 7 Williams 7 Lee 8 Dapo 7 Doyle 5 Sarcevic 2 Delfouneso 4 All subs 7
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Post by kenglowhite on Mar 13, 2021 17:14:12 GMT
That Vale pitch has always been regarded as heavy, and today Vale also played it very physically, particularly on Afolayon, It was pleasing to see his bravery paying off as he made the goal for Jones. I think it was the only way for us to play the game , concentrating on our strong defence, and looking back, though they had twice as many shots as us, they never looked like scoring, and thankfully Gilks handled well, and didn't let them back in today.
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Post by davidm on Mar 13, 2021 17:27:35 GMT
What a terribly poor game.
I don’t know if it was the awful pitch or the wind but there was a complete inability to pass or control the ball today. So to get 3 points from such a poor showing is excellent –particularly as the top 4 all won.
I am used these days to us taking 10 to 15 minutes to get control at the start of the game but today it never happened.
I thought perhaps the half time break would shake us up but, again, No – just endless poor play. Port Vale were bad so we had no pressure at the back but midfield and upfront, there was just nothing.
Only one other comment – the manager’s “no sub keeper” philosophy nearly kicked him in the proverbials when Gilks was injured. Let’s hope he has learnt and Jensen appears next week.
A week off now so hope we are recharged for Walsall next Saturday.
Poor match but 3 points - good
Marks:-
Gilks - 7 So nearly showed the managers “no sub keeper” philosophy up when he got injured. Play steady throughout – no great pressure on him
Jones - 6 Goal and some decent running
John - 6 Not able to dominate going forward as much as usual
Santos - 7 Strong again but some wayward passing
Baptiste - 6 Good enough but pressured throughout
Williams - 5 Could not dominate the midfield
Lee - 5 I like Lee but he struggled badly today. Poor passing
Delfouneso - 5 Some decent touches but we couldn’t hold the ball
Afolayan - 6 Not as dynamic as usual but OK
Sarcevic - 5 Injured early on
Doyle - 5 No service and just nothing from him
Elbouzedi - 6 Odd sub but he did OK
Isgrove - 6 Worked hard
Gnahoua - 6 A couple of good needed runs with the ball
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Post by OohMac on Mar 13, 2021 17:31:04 GMT
Wrote a long pre match comment about Evatt wanting 15 wins. At that point we had 7 so from the remaining 12 we needed 7 wins, which seemed a tough ask. However i broke it down.
5 home - the way we played against Cambridge. That should be 5.
So need 2 away. We have Grimsby, Port Vale and some tougher games. FGR(sky) Salford, Morecambe, Newport. A win at PV would give us great breathing space.
And now:
Well thats huge. Means IF we win the home games as we should we have several free hits.
Is it likely we will win all home matches? Well yes if we play as well as we can. Champions tend to and our goal is to be just that.
So we are now seeking 6 wins in 11. And our previous 11 we havent lost winning 9.
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 13, 2021 17:54:51 GMT
Excellent game management and wasn't Elbouzedi just excellent. What a great change. I was happy enough with the second half. One chance, a slightly lucky goal after a very good movement. We passed well late on. Our strength was Santos and Baptiste. They looked impenetrable throughout. Gnahoua did indeed add a bit of control. Lee and Williams were dogged with Lee integral to game management. When he hit a poor pass at one point it stood out because of rarity. There were the usual suspects of concern. Did Delfouneso do anything. Maybe he kept possession a bit. Isgrove ran about not always to greatest effect. But a good squad victory in tough conditions. Port Vale were ok but carried little threat. I thought we were consistent with no obvious poor performers Gilks 7 Jones 7 Santos 9 Baptiste 8 John 7 Williams 7 Lee 8 Dapo 7 Doyle 5 Sarcevic 2 Delfouneso 4 All subs 7 You’re right about Elbouzedi Andy, he was terrific when he came on and I have to eat my earlier words Andy are my hat off to him. He’s obviously worked hard behind the scenes to get his chance, so full marks to him, he seems to have settled in and fitted in really well out wide and probably troubled the Vale defence more than anyone. I still though think Dapo should have stayed on and Fonz taken off. He just contributes nothing for me, unlike Isgrove who at least gets involved. Anyway, a good 3 points and much needed, so on to Walsall next week where we must get another 3 points.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Mar 13, 2021 19:40:25 GMT
Don’t want to dampen everyone’s spirits as a win is a win and it carries the momentum, but It begs the question, are these ugly 1-0 wins and this unbeaten run going to come to an end with a thumping defeat against a FGR, Newport or a Cheltenham🤔
Onwards and upwards with another ground out win v Walsall and we might be in a good league positin to even grind out a draw against any of the top 3 and who knows, maybe even get the valuable win against them
COYWM ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️
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Post by OohMac on Mar 13, 2021 20:22:33 GMT
Don’t want to dampen everyone’s spirits as a win is a win and it carries the momentum, but It begs the question, are these ugly 1-0 wins and this unbeaten run going to come to an end with a thumping defeat against a FGR, Newport or a Cheltenham🤔 Onwards and upwards with another ground out win v Walsall and we might be in a good league positin to even grind out a draw against any of the top 3 and who knows, maybe even get the valuable win against them COYWM ⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️⚽️ Nope. Because we're so much adaptable now so if the better team fancy it we will outplay them. If the scrappers want to nullify then we will take then we will find a way too. 29 from 33 and those missed points where due to a wrongful sending off. (93rd minute equaliser too but cant bemoan that)
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 13, 2021 22:12:26 GMT
I could bemoan the 93rd minute equaliser OM because we should have had that game won well before that and it might yet still cost us promotion but once again we failed to take our chances. We got the win today and poor as the game was we deserved it but once again the poor final ball and wasteful crosses made things much more difficult than it should have been. I accept the conditions were poor today but they can’t have been any worse than Cambridge, Cheltenham or FGR faced and it didn’t stop them winning comfortably. Glossing over our striking failures by blaming the pitch or the weather is ignoring the fact that we are just toothless up top. Taking our leading scorer off should illustrate it even more. We’re scraping through games which is fine as long as our luck holds but if we are to continue the run, IE needs to try to find a way to improve our final quarter actions because once again apart from the goal there wasn’t an effort on target and their keeper was totally untroubled. The only one who looked likely to do anything today was once again Dapo and for me was just starting to make inroads when he was replaced. I still can’t see the logic in that, surely he can’t be tired after 60 minutes and why leave Delfouneso on yet again who contributes little or nothing and certainly didn’t after Dapo was replaced. I know that we got the result and people will say Evatt got it right but I’m not so sure myself.
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Post by bonaparte on Mar 14, 2021 8:28:25 GMT
As I have said previously, the front four must now be IEs priority. Sarcevic has played one good game so far, but offered nothing yesterday before going off early. Is that all we are going to get from him? Dapo huffed and puffed, but only one good end result all match, no surprise to me he came off early. Delfounso (Andy's and now Whites whipping boy) improved when shifted to mid field, seems better suited there. Doyle had no service and came hunting, not effective when not in the box. Isgrove huffs and puffs, IE says he works hard so is one of his picks, but working hard to no result is not a good idea. Why Gnahoua does not start, or even come on before Isgrove, baffles me and Elbouzedi does offer more pace. Again as I have said previously the wingers are set up to run infield and into trouble every time, or pass backwards in a most sterile fashion. There are at least two so called defenders, Tutte and Thomasson, who I am sure could sit at the base of a diamond and make space for the wingers to feed Doyle in the box. With a good substitution plan, we should be able to refresh the side with like for like players, and get home at a canter. No evidence so far.
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