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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 12, 2020 17:02:10 GMT
Absolutely awful stuff. Crawford abysmal, Kioso abysmal, send him back to Luton, he produces nothing. Santos and Baptiste patchy again today, Sarcevic anonymous, was Delfouneso actually on the field second half? No confidence in this bunch after today I’m afraid. Well in control until that stupidity on half time and the still in the dressing room for the second. We have absolutely no composure around the box, just so wasteful. Yet again their keeper never had to make a save yet we’re panic stricken every time the ball comes into our box. Hard to single out who was worst for us today they were all that bad. No wonder Phoenix was binned if he brought this lot in.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 12, 2020 17:03:42 GMT
2-1 loss. 2 straight defeats. only a week or so ago, these last 2 games were looking very winnable. now 2 defeats. 1 shot on target today..though it seems we had a few chances off target. 5 on target for Walsall. these are just an average mid-table side. no great shakes.
unchanged team. that worked really well . unchanged again next week then ?? waits til 78th minute to make a sub ?? . his judgement is just not up to it for me. never has been. the players are good enough for me to make the play offs. play a better system..not back 3 for a supposedly attacking side which makes little sense. name another attacking side that play with a back 3 & wing backs ?? and get team selection better. picking off form players (crawford) sends out the wrong signals... when options are there... Gnahoua, Darcy .
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Post by Alptrotter on Dec 12, 2020 17:07:10 GMT
Another disappointing performance after we took control of the game and looked comfortable at 1-0.Naive defending out wide for the first goal and poor positioning from Gilks, for the second. He seemed more concerned to defend the side of his goal that was the wall's responsibility and left his side open. We desperately need a decent keeper in the window. Crawford was again poor and I really agree with Eyre on commentary that neither Jones nor Kioso can cross the ball. Jones is on the wrong side and Kioso simply hits and hopes. Really Evatt has a totally lopsided squad. Too many central defenders, no decent wide players right or left. Hence we get bogged down in a central battle and the likes of Thomasson, Darcy, delfonouso and Crawford get pushed around and roughed up. I thought Thomasson did well, but we need a strong, reliable def mid player, decent goalie, two wide players and at least one more striker. Play offs are still possible, but Evatt has to up his game. We have the best striker in the league, but he rarely gets a ball to attack in the box. When he does like today, he scores.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 12, 2020 17:09:30 GMT
This is not working Ian Evatt’s man management is not working 7 or 8 of those players selected today are not working Can we actually even fall any further behind than we have done??
Clearly, the answer is yes
Evatt had a half time team talk and it was at that moment that he should have been dishing out a few rollockings, he’s too lightweight and for me, doesn’t look like he’s a commander and I also don’t believe the players are getting him. The supporters aren’t getting him? Well I’m not😬😬
We will go nowhere with him Sad times indeed😢😞
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Post by davidm on Dec 12, 2020 17:20:09 GMT
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Post by davidm on Dec 12, 2020 17:20:24 GMT
How do you lose a match that we were in total control for 35 minutes?
Mistakes cost us and then we faded terribly. For the 2nd week running we were bullied out of a match. The 2nd half performance was rank bad.
I blame Delfouneso, Crawford and Delaney for really poor play that swung the match and cost us terribly.
Delfouneso should not have been offside and we should have been 2-0 up. Crawford was just so weak and fell over allowing a cross from which Delaney was outjumped and then he gave away a stupid foul that gave them the 2nd goal.
Yet again, the midfield were weak and Walsall ran all over us in the 2nd half.
One comment on corners. When Walsall had a corner, it was panic stations in our defence but when we had one, we did not win one header – just an easy clearance for Walsall every time.
Very disappointing
Marks:-
Gilks - 6 A couple of good saves saved us from a worse score
Kioso - 5 Probably would have scored but for Delfouneso but, apart from that, too many poor crosses
Jones -5 Hardly noticed him
Baptiste - 5 Too many mishit passes
Santos - 4 Sloppy – could easily have cost us a couple of goals
Delaney - 4 Sleepy
Thomason -5 OK – Blamed by the commentator but I thought he was reasonable
Sarcevic - 5 Faded badly
Crawford - 4 So weak. I could blow him over.
Delfouneso - 5 Why oh why can’t he stay onside. We would have won if he had done
Doyle - 6 Typical goal but no service to him
Gnahoua
White
Darcy
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Post by andyl on Dec 12, 2020 17:21:54 GMT
The question that game leaves is whether or not Evatt should follow Phoenix out of the door. It was an awful performance after the first half hour. We were soft, uncompetitive and blunt on the flanks. Jones on the left prevents a left wing attack better than any opposition defenders could do and Kioso has very limited skill from the right. Delfouneso possesses a threat and fashioned a really good goal but my goodness he's lazy and moody to th extent that but for a handful of minutes in each game he is never seen.
Walsall as so many teams in this league were unimpressive, little going forward and little at the back but they got stuck in and player after player of ours was bested, often requiring treatment and giving the game to them by default.
Tactically we are an absolute mess. We have three at the back which encourages wide play, we have Crawford hiding in plain sight blocking the middle. We have players who live to go backwards and just about everything is a case of playing the right notes but in the wrong order and that's down to Evatt.
Did we do anything well. Yes, our goal started with Sarcevic, a pass to Crawford a pass to Delfouneso and a delightful show of opportunism by Doyle. But alas when mirrored with a chance to go to -2-0 Delfouneos lazily took two stridfes and put himself offside denying the easiest of tap ins. Straightaway they break. Thomasson goes down lightly, Crawford makes a feeble challenge, Delaney is half asleep 1-1 i.
Yes Gilks made a fabulous save after a catalogue of clumsiness with Santos as ever losing orientation
Yes Delfouneso broke through but hit a hopeless shot form a great position.
Yes, Thomasson played a significant number of good passes, one a superb one which but for Delfouneso'#s blunder would have led to a goal.
But 2-0 killed off our appetite. It was another shambles starting from Sarcevic and ending with Delaney fouling clumsily. Good goal. Noone closed down the shot. I would need to see that again to determine if they could have.
The game fragmented with one and another substitution, injury, clumsy free kick concession and lack of skill. We only had one attacking free kick second half and of course Crawford went over to take it. Yet again commentators cooed. Great chance for Crawford. But we knew didn't we that the man born to disappoint would and in this alone he did not disappoint with a tame kick into the wall.
I know we won four on the trot. I know Evatt was manager of the month but why can't he see that our stultifying flank bluntness plays into oppositions hands. I like Doyle and Sarcevic but with no left hand flank play and minimal and erratic right Doyle gets no service and Sarcevic cannot steal in and these attributes are our prize issues. Maybe Kioso could play upfront, I don't know. Most certainly Jones can do right back. Most certainly Darcy and Thomasson have something about them even if both somewhat sallow. Both would be consistently better taking corners and free kicks than Crawford thus far has shown himself to be,as would Sarcevic who should surely take the central ones
All will gather that to my mind today's defeat was a tactical shambles. I was surprised that the same team started. I didn't mind Thomasson retaining his place but surely in place of Crawford. Isgrove was presumably unfit. Pity becaue he was another candidate to take over from Crawford, although personally I'd want him on a wing. Even with limited resources I'm convinced that pairing Kioso with Doyle and playng Isgrove wide with Darcy and Thomasson in the team would make us stronger. I also think that four at the back would suit us much better and be much more conventionally measured and safe. We are not fit enough or strong enough for the division currently but we have the talent to win games if Evatt could but harness it. I'm coming to think he cannot and answering my starting question. Now if only Big Sam fancied a little challenge
Gilks 7 Baptiste 5 Santos 5 Delaney 2 Kioso 5 Crawford 1 Sarcevic 5 Jones 3 Delfouneso 4 Doyle 6 Thomasson 6 Gnaouha (!) Darcy ( nothing today) White ( one horrendous turn and passback in extra time which lost two minutes)
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Post by davidm on Dec 12, 2020 17:27:24 GMT
I have to say that davidm is forever the optimist, so it must be really depressing in his house when we get whacked 6-3. And depressing when we lose 2-1 in a match that we had control of! I am optimistic because the standard of this league is poor and our squad should be better than most but, of course, they are failing badly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2020 17:32:56 GMT
I don't want to get angry anymore about our team but it seems to me that Ian Evatt has his favourite players who he will not drop i.e.Crawford yes I did say Crawford it's about time he was dropped plus a few other,s that I think we know who they are. I don't believe we have nobody else who can play in his or anyone elses position, it just shows that the five wins we had was against poor teams.Maybe we should just wait and see where we are in May.For what it's worth I had us finishing in the top seven.Stay safe one and all COYWM
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Post by OohMac on Dec 12, 2020 18:40:53 GMT
That was supposed to be them playing to atone for the shambles that is last week.
I still dont think we create enough, we cannot the basics, we switch off and we over rely on Doyle these days.
If Evatt was on loan, i wouldnt be extending it in January. Just havent seen enough that I like. Maybe we were fortunate that November paired us to the worst teams in the league(and Salford came with TV crew).
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Post by kenglowhite on Dec 12, 2020 19:55:16 GMT
And yet in the end we were outmuscled by a team whom we had so-called controlled throughout the first half in the view of our talkative co-commentator ( he's actually auditioning for a manager's job). Yet the reason we lost was again defensive. An alleged left wing back, strongly right-footed, a right wing back with little or no defensive ability played right into the hands of Walsall's strength down the flanks and led to no end of panic clearances from our central defence. I know people criticise Delaney, but week after week he is left manfully doing the job of two men down the left flank. Baptiste is similarly placed on the right . If Ian Evatt can't see that then he is never going to be up to the job. And everyone is now cottoning on to the poor performances of Crawford, who I have yet to see make a tackle in anger, let alone put in a decent corner or free kick. There was talk today of Crawford blocking Sarcevic's performance. I certainly see the need for our best footballer to be employed in a more attacking mode and being fed by a strong defensive midfielder. What a waste of Doyle all this is.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 13, 2020 12:33:33 GMT
well I don't agree with his 1st line...but it highlights the 2nd point more when even an Evatt supporter thinks this too, which agree with. even Greenidge..the guy you" couldn't wait to let the fans see him" .
it just smacks of grand-standing to Shazza and the board... the squad are all useless...it's not my fault. give me more money. some of these were fit to come on vs Port Vale just 7 days ago, and they didn't embarass themselves.
this a guy who couldn't drop Crellin for ages remember . in that context, it's appalling. week in week out, he's a liability. Evatts response. keep playing him.
plenty of these did decent jobs vs Newcastle u21s Hickman scored. Mascoll took his goal well. Greenidge showed something. though Mascoll & Gordon haven't done that great as left wing backs...they might do better just as left backs ,as others have said.
we have a 5 sub rule brought in especially to help out with the physical demands....lack of full pre-seasons / intense period of games.. purely on freshness grounds you could use more subs against tired legs.
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Post by realtrottersforever on Dec 14, 2020 15:03:06 GMT
i'll just leave this one here as it relates to this game. pass of the match ..per Steve Eyre
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