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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 13, 2020 14:25:08 GMT
I think KH has far too much footballing authority here at BWFC.
The FV board, probably excellent business folk but have useless footballing nous are accepting of this seasons fall to League 2 and will more than likely allow KH a good month or so in L2 to see where we are (similar to the fear KA had with ridding PP-another non footballing chairman, he also had no balls to sack him especially following his October dogs of war speech)
So here (would) have been my theory as it’s far too late to do anything to rescue L1.
Get rid of Keith Hill and his all important self certified ramblings and put Dave Flitcroft in charge and let him pick his number 2 (poss David Lee) as I think he’d have done much better job than KH is doing. I just feel that KH doesn’t allow DF to have too much of a say or influence on the team for fear of that very change of manager role happening??
Just my two penneth for what it’s worth
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Post by kenglowhite on Feb 13, 2020 14:45:27 GMT
Hence, I think the recruitment of Peter Kenyon to contain KH. I am not sure about Flitcroft alone ( he has had managerial posts himself withut much success). As for Hill, any recruitment he has done has mostly had an ex-Rochdale tinge, and Rocjdale have rarely, if ever, produced top talent. Maybe such contacts were of interest at first to FV, but they are not paying off overall. I think with proper management we should have been able to overcome the 12 point deficit, and thus increased the attendances and cash flow for FV. Too many people are having it that FV are short of funds. I do not believe that. Their inexperience is in not knowing when enough is enough.
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 13, 2020 15:11:55 GMT
I,ve thoght for a while that emmanuel is a suspect RB...but he s quick has skill and can cross a ball,,,Right Wing?  ? exactly Grud, he’s great going forward but I’m afraid less good at the back. I’m not sure about left wing but definitely a contender for right midfield. I’d certainly play Brockbank at RB with Emanuel in front of him which would reduce the need for Dodoo playing right wing and allow strikers to play up the centre where they can actually concentrate on scoring goals. Let’s face it, our midfield currently is atrocious so he could hardly do worse in there? |
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 13, 2020 15:27:34 GMT
Hence, I think the recruitment of Peter Kenyon to contain KH. I am not sure about Flitcroft alone ( he has had managerial posts himself withut much success). As for Hill, any recruitment he has done has mostly had an ex-Rochdale tinge, and Rocjdale have rarely, if ever, produced top talent. Maybe such contacts were of interest at first to FV, but they are not paying off overall. I think with proper management we should have been able to overcome the 12 point deficit, and thus increased the attendances and cash flow for FV. Too many people are having it that FV are short of funds. I do not believe that. Their inexperience is in not knowing when enough is enough. completely agree ken, I don’t think Flicker is the man either and I actually don’t think he’d take the job if KH was sacked anyway. My choice right from the start would have been David Lee. Given this season to build for next, I’m certain he could have built around his Development Squad to create both a squad with more cohesion this year, as well as better prepared next. I can see why FV didn’t do that, probably thinking they needed an experienced head but I disagree. I also feel he would have done a better job of recovering the 12 point deficit and keeping us up but of course that’s only my opinion. As we are now I’d give KH until the end of the season but if he hasn’t improved both results and performances by then, no way would I let him start next season. If FV don’t fancy a young coach like DL, there will always be good, competent experienced managers who’d jump at the chance of coming here. Blackpool have just sacked Grayson who I’d list higher than KH and they could always make more adventurous approaches to people like Warnock if finances allow? |
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 13, 2020 18:27:06 GMT
W63 Keith is akin to a Saturday grass roots manager of an under 15’s side. I can imagine his team talks being of the same structure, “effin an jeffin” and no one questioning him or having their say for fear of being dropped. I played 5 a side last night at the Etihad Campus with a lad who follows Rochdale up hill and down dale (scuse the puns there🤣) has done for decades and he thinks that KH is a dinosaur too and his methods are of a Sunday league stature. I too would have shouted for David Lee, I’m actually thinking of calling the cops as he seems to have vanished into thin air, where is he? Where’s Tony Kelly, Jimmy Phillips, Nicky Spooner, Ju Darby, Warren Joyce and where oh where is OUR £35 million pound Jude Bellingham? ?? Birmingham’s imminent sale of this lad could set them up financially for the next 5 years, is Darcy not at that level?? He’s only 16 for crying out loud and that’s where David Lee’s progressive U23’s could have discovered our very own future £50m man. I think it’s tome the FV lot actually got down to Lostock and watched KH in action, they might have a different view of him |
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Post by kenglowhite on Feb 13, 2020 20:39:41 GMT
Exactly, RFTR. I expect after FV pluck up the courage to fire him, he will emerge as the next manager of No-Name AFC.Blackpool have shown no suzh patience with Simon Grayson, and nor should we with KH. I am not complaining about the players he has managed to garner, rather the way he has them playing consistently badly. I say again that we should have been able to nullify the 12 points deduction and stay in this league. It is strange tha we have not had reports of Under23 games and Youth matches and few quotes if any from the coaches mentioned by RTFR. Since David Lee's interview in the close season about his wish to be manager one day nothing more has been heard of him, and there is no evidence in the BN that he is still around. Maybe he gave that interview after he had had an interview for the job with FV and he felt it had gone well.
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 13, 2020 22:31:49 GMT
I think David is still in situ with the Development Squad, I have heard his name mentioned a couple of times very recently but I think all the emphasis has been on the first team and I suspect that’s how KH wants it to stay? He seems to me to be a bit think skinned and sensitive. He also strikes me as one of those who wants to take all the glory for anything good that happens but is ready to blame others when it’s not going well. Even Flicker hardly ever gets mentioned let along the Youth coaches. I don’t know a Keith, have never met him so my presumptions are solely on what I’ve seen. I think there was an element of surprise when he was offered the job and it’s clearly a position that he would never have got had our circumstances been different and I think in some ways he is rather overawed by it. I don’t know about his relationship with players, it’s hard to tell but neither Verlinden or Bridcutt seemed to be in a rush to come back and having missed out on a number of his targets, maybe he didn’t impress them either. As I say, I think we have to give him this season but if he hasn’t improved things markedly by then I’d certainly be looking for a change for next season.
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Post by kenglowhite on Feb 13, 2020 22:42:08 GMT
I think we need the new man now in order to have things in shape for next season and to inspire supporters' optimism. Remember, 63, that FV need to sell at least 10,000 season tickets. Can they afford to wait?
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Post by OohMac on Feb 14, 2020 16:14:07 GMT
Like you after Lees interview i was crying out for him to be given a chance. The way he spoke, his ethos and attitude was what was needed.
Im honest enough to say though that if Lee struggled I would be questioning whether we have gone all heart and no head and like Sammy Lee i doubt he would have been given the luxury of a bad start.
For me its either Warnock right now or keeping Keith and giving him another window with a wider range of player availability.
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