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Post by OohMac on Jan 14, 2020 17:58:14 GMT
Tempted to stick this on to the parking thread but surely deserves a pre and post match discussion in its own right. Plus im sure people will want to share thier parking stories too.
Genuinely love L1 for these Tuesday game and they have been too uncommon for obvious and some not so obvious reasons.
Great chance to put the train back on tracks, but a third defeat would completely derail the season.
After all my moaning about bypassing a midfield, playing direct football under PP thats exactly what i think we need tonight. Missing Crawford, Lowe, Verlinden and Bridcutt we just dont have personnel. I would revert to O'grady partnering Murphy as the two most physical strikers.
Defence wise no idea, midfield wise no idea either. Wonder if Parky has left his bingo selection machine to use.
Prediction, 2-1 defeat.
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 14, 2020 20:05:32 GMT
Busy on here tonight OM!! Anyway there’s one of your 2 goals already. 🙁
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Post by OohMac on Jan 14, 2020 20:16:20 GMT
Wright, Chicksen and Earl out is just kamikaze thinking. Any replacements should have been doing a Peter Odemwingie and waiting in a car to sign as soon as the squad number is free.
Too many games, too many points in January to write off. I dont take the attitude that every player needs to be thought of for the future. Yes, build a nucleus, get a foundation but when youve no bloody left backs keep a bloody left back even if its until May.
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Post by davidm on Jan 14, 2020 20:38:35 GMT
What a poor poor goal to concede.
Emmanuel outpaced down the wing.
Good cross but Edwards fast asleep at left back and let's their man get in front of him for an easy header but the header goes straight at Matthews who dives over it. If he had stuck his foot out, he would have saved it.
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Post by OohMac on Jan 14, 2020 21:17:57 GMT
Got back on terms, they get a goal ruled out and less than a minute later make it 2-1.
Such a soft core to this midfield and defence thats letting down a lot of promise.
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Post by davidm on Jan 14, 2020 21:31:23 GMT
We have just collapsed.
I know it is simple to criticise when we concede but such sloppy defending.
Just no-one bothers to mark.
I said we were poor on the first goal but how weak where Darcy and Luke Murphy initially and then the whole back 4 just backed off to allow Walker to shoot. Why back-off?
3rd and 4th goals just lack of marking by the defence,
Terrible
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Post by davidm on Jan 14, 2020 21:32:22 GMT
Have we given up? ? PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 21:32:23 GMT
4-1. Looks like the wheels have fallen off!
Parky out, er I mean Hill out! Where's whites when you need him. lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 21:37:31 GMT
Wow... another one in 5-1. Yes david, I think that they have given up.
They'll call for his head now!!!
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Post by OohMac on Jan 14, 2020 21:37:40 GMT
3-1 done and dusted, for the season. Last bit of hope gone now.
Said before Bolton 2019 and theres not a squad player who wasnt capable of L1 football.
2020 released our defenders. 3 defeats on the trot. Suicide. Diluting the quality.
Of course were missing Lowe(his fault) bridcutt and Crawford but in all areas getting worse and worse.
Serious questions need to be asked about the recruitment and the cutting of squad plauers with no one better to bring in. If thats FVs choice let us have it, if that Fool on Keith Hill then stand by it and be accountable.
Someone has massively thrown this season away in the last few weeks. Who is it?!
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Post by OohMac on Jan 14, 2020 21:47:16 GMT
Wow. Says it all. Im mid rant about it being done and dusted only for us to embarrass ourselves yet again.
After an ugly win at southend, a gritty draw at Stadium of light and vs shrewsbury. Since Jan we have thrown it away completely. Football suicide. And no one is owning up to it.
Never thought id say this but Hill needs to seriously question if hes actually making progress or just stopping someone else from having this oppurtunity.
Answers needed.
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Post by kenglowhite on Jan 14, 2020 22:34:04 GMT
I think Keith hardly knows what day it is. I have been happily confident that he had reinforcements at the ready as soon as the loan window opened, but he has succeeded in the total opposite. We've all been congratulating him on his fast assembly in August, but does it now seem that many of the signings, Bridcutt particularly, had been lined up by PP, who now is likely to at least take Bridcutt. I think the owners should have seen this coming and looked to make changes while we were still at the races. Some supporters are talking about building a team for next season in League 2, but I wouldn't trust Hill and Co with the task, and some are even touting Nolan again, but having seen his kick and rush when managing Notts County I woudn't let him near the place either. I despair.
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Post by davidm on Jan 14, 2020 22:50:14 GMT
some are even touting Nolan again, but having seen his kick and rush when managing Notts County I wouldn't let him near the place Agreed - from what I saw, NottsC just lumped the ball forward to John Stead - a tactic which collapsed the following season. I don't know how we get out of this mess but please no more hoofball. We have suffered that for the last 3 seasons so no more please
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 14, 2020 23:12:33 GMT
Wow, lots of unhappy campers on here tonight, not that I’m surprised though after yet another woeful performance. I think the initial warmth felt for two of our own coming in and immediately changing the atmosphere, even if not the results, is now wearing off. It’s been obvious for weeks to me that we were going nowhere, in fact backwards if anything, from where KH started. There is no pattern to our play, no feeling that when we have the ball we all attack and when we lose it we all defend and attempt to get the hall back. We seem to be weak in the tackle, slow to move around yet that’s what we did early in KH’s tenure. That 2-0 win at Bristol really looked like a turning point and it was, just backwards. I’m on the fence with Chicksen, yes he did give it all but for me lacked something and I can understand KH wanting someone better. Surely then he must have considered who would replace him but it appears not after tonight. I think the players are giving up, losing confidence and I’m not sure if KH is the man to restore them. Despite tonight it’s maybe too early to write KH off but surely even FV must be questioning if they made the right choice. Surely by now we should be seeing some progress but we just aren’t. Frankly, I just don’t see where our next point is coming from and if the season continues like this what confidence can we have of even staying in L2 next year? I still think David Lee and Tony Kelly are our best bet as I said in the first place and surely couldn’t do worse than this?
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Post by OohMac on Jan 15, 2020 0:27:45 GMT
Would be unfair to schoolboys to compare the goals to that level.
I'll be the first to admit im fickle as i wanted anything but the drab rubbish Parky served up(Give me Hill still over him) but doesnt look like any defenders know how to do the very basic stuff and there doesnt seem to be any shape/help from midfield.
If we sack Hill without having a guy in mind ready then we're as bad as him. If i were FV id be seriously keeping my ear to the ground sounding out the right man.
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