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Post by kenglowhite on Dec 9, 2019 12:19:30 GMT
I think the owners of Sunderland must have gone along with the national view of Parky as being the innocent victim of Anderson's lack of largesse, Given that the EFL under Harvey allowed Anderson a lot of scope for loans, even signings, Parkinson failed to make the most of the favours received by making poor signings, and adopting in most games a "park the bus" a la Mourinho style of play with hoofball his chosen policy. I hold him completely responsible for our relegation and perhaps the total collapse of our finances with diminishing support. In this world of national media deciding who's right and who's wrong in football, it isn't surprising that the Sunderland people got the wrpng idea on Phil, who is now playing out his football uselessness for all to see before the large Sunderland support who deserve better. What really was wrong with Jack Ross ?
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 9, 2019 20:14:08 GMT
I think a lot of the Sunderland fans are also asking what was wrong with Jack Ross Kenglo. From what I read many were prepared to stick with him but the directors decided otherwise. What is beyond doubt is that Parkinson was never wanted by the fans and I think they were as surprised as us that he was appointed. I’m still trying to get my head round the two and a half year contract he was given. They were either desperate or Parky conned them. Remember he was out of work so no compensation was required but on the other hand I didn’t notice a host of other clubs after his services so there was little or no competition for them. They still seem to be preparing to give him the window so maybe they’re going to allow him some time and opportunity but as we know to our cost, it will achieve nothing because his Neanderthal systems and ideas won’t change whoever he signs. He’s already reverted to type with 5 changes last week and an essentially defensive and boring game plan. I fear he won’t last long though and even a defeat or poor performance against Blackpool next weekend might just be enough, then where will he and his motley bunch be?
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Post by OohMac on Dec 15, 2019 13:19:07 GMT
On Parky watch. Hes already ordered his number 2 to do his press conferences.
Fall out in the squad and more unrest from the fans.
Ainsworth making that decision look even worse.
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 15, 2019 19:33:31 GMT
They’re sticking with him so far OM but I have to admit that not appearing for the press conference is a rather strange one. It somewhat confirms my comments last year about him being a coward who hides when things get tough. All through the player strikes where was he? Hiding and even before that was sending Parkin out for a spell to do media work. I really cannot understand why they chose him but I bet they’re regretting it now. How ironic would it be for us to be the team that get him sacked by beating them up there, because I’m sure that’s what would happen if we did. It will also be interesting to see what kind of a reception Parky gets from our fans and if we join in with the sacked in the morning chants which would be sure to resound round the stadium? I have mixed feelings on Parky but I have to admit I’d feel a sense of cruel satisfaction if it did happen.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2019 19:40:04 GMT
They’re sticking with him so far OM but I have to admit that not appearing for the press conference is a rather strange one. It somewhat confirms my comments last year about him being a coward who hides when things get tough. All through the player strikes where was he? Hiding and even before that was sending Parkin out for a spell to do media work. I really cannot understand why they chose him but I bet they’re regretting it now. How ironic would it be for us to be the team that get him sacked by beating them up there, because I’m sure that’s what would happen if we did. It will also be interesting to see what kind of a reception Parky gets from our fans and if we join in with the sacked in the morning chants which would be sure to resound round the stadium? I have mixed feelings on Parky but I have to admit I’d feel a sense of cruel satisfaction if it did happen. I cant belive you've said that 63  tis the season of good will is it not ? bet your mother don't know if she finds out expect a clip round the ear for your unsportsman like behaveuor  |
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Post by OohMac on Dec 16, 2019 9:30:32 GMT
PP set to make a lot of money if he gets sacked. Problem with your scenario whites is that it may backfire. Our form pretty poor so Sunderland even with PP will be big favourites. Bumper crowd there and if we have an AccyDay it could be very bad and even give PP a pardon.
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Post by Pedro on Dec 16, 2019 18:40:04 GMT
From The Echo - "So no wins in eight games now for Sunderland, but at least Phil Parkinson would come out and face the music after the game, and share his thoughts on the situation.
Oh no, wrong.
He sent the assistant manager to do so, another incredible decision taken by the former Colchester manager."
"When asked by the Echo why Parkinson was not facing questions post-match, as fans would expect, Parkin explained: “He just wanted a change from it, I think he has had a busy week. “We have had plenty to say this week on the training ground and probably just wanted a break from it.”"
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 16, 2019 21:46:58 GMT
They’re sticking with him so far OM but I have to admit that not appearing for the press conference is a rather strange one. It somewhat confirms my comments last year about him being a coward who hides when things get tough. All through the player strikes where was he? Hiding and even before that was sending Parkin out for a spell to do media work. I really cannot understand why they chose him but I bet they’re regretting it now. How ironic would it be for us to be the team that get him sacked by beating them up there, because I’m sure that’s what would happen if we did. It will also be interesting to see what kind of a reception Parky gets from our fans and if we join in with the sacked in the morning chants which would be sure to resound round the stadium? I have mixed feelings on Parky but I have to admit I’d feel a sense of cruel satisfaction if it did happen. I cant belive you've said that 63 tis the season of good will is it not ? bet your mother don't know if she finds out expect a clip round the ear for your unsportsman like behaveuor I think since it’s Parky we’re talking about here owdon, I think my mum would forgive me!! |
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 16, 2019 21:55:48 GMT
PP set to make a lot of money if he gets sacked. Problem with your scenario whites is that it may backfire. Our form pretty poor so Sunderland even with PP will be big favourites. Bumper crowd there and if we have an AccyDay it could be very bad and even give PP a pardon. it could well backfire OM but I’m just hoping given Parkys penchant for getting things wrong it won’t. Let’s face it, even against teams you’d expect to batter, he always still started and set up not to lose, then panicked at the end with pointless substitutions. Actually, the more I think about it, the more confident I’m am that even we can get a result up there, especially with all the pressure on him of a big, expectant crowd. Frankly though, we have nothing to lose because even a result against us won’t lift the pressure he’s under I admit I do blame Parkinson as much as Anderson for our demise. I’d love to have been a fly on the wall when the players decided not to turn out and what, if anything Parky did to stop it. For me a good manager of the club would have stood tall but he disappeared, just like he did for the after match at Sunderland last Saturday. Number one coward for me and I hope we do get him binned for justice, however much he makes out of it financially. |
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Post by OohMac on Dec 17, 2019 8:53:53 GMT
Got to say i agree. Fans will thank Phil and talk about his professionalism. All i see was a guy waiting round for a payoff.
Agree with his non role in the strike. I know its hard but heard other similar stories but squad continued to play. Think he should have asked his players to play, if they refused it should have been time to offer resignation.
A guy with such an awful record in the championship but so hell bent on changing as little as possible. Again how much better could we have looked in L1 this year if Hall, Edwards, Zouma, Connell, Earing, Brockbank, politic, Pritchard got a dozen games in championship. Even the last game at Forest was filled with the Donaldsons and were still getting thrashed.
So yeah, on the pitch, off the pitch, on the training ground and in the board room Phil comes across to me as spineless. Putting number 1 first so long as hes not going to get sacked keep head down.
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 17, 2019 16:28:14 GMT
I hope we’re not soon saying the same thing about KH OM. He’s pretty quick to send Flicker out when it suits him. Although he wasn’t my particular choice I was pleased with how he handled his entry and the positivity was so refreshing after the boredom and monotony of Parkinson’s time here but latterly he seems to have abandoned the enterprise and is looking to limit defeats. Of course he knows his players capabilities better than I do but his apparent wish to play all 3 of his strikers in Murphy, Dodoo and O’Neil every week and leaving out the likes of Politic and Verlinden to do it seems odd to me. I realise he’s still searching for a pattern and maybe I’m being a bit harsh but the gloss has gone off it for me and I think making so many changes in both personnel and system seems not to be working. I think the main thing we are missing is a quality midfield player but without the resources to recruit one I think we’re going to have to hope that one of our young players can step up into that role. Still, you never know, KH may pull a rabbit out of the hat in January, so let’s hope so.
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Post by kenglowhite on Dec 17, 2019 17:02:58 GMT
Oh dear! the first hint of criticism from 63, echoing something I have felt and expressed a little in recent posts. Over the course of the last five managers I have noted 63's justified criticisms rise in an irresistible crescendo and feel once again he is justified. Injuries apart, I increasingly feel KH is mixed up and tries to alleviate his confusion with mock philosophical outpourings of little value to the hopes and fears of us supporters, admittedly now looking to achieve more than our club intact.Although he has allowed himself to moan about certain players, eg Zouma and Verlinden, and lavish praise on some of the as yet undeserving, he has not actually spotted well enough for me the out of form players, eg Emmanuel and O'Grady, the latter probably playing out of position, and the former often out of position (eg the Peterborough goal), and the reversion of Lowe to his old retrogressive style of play. Instead of making useless comments about how thrilled hie is to be in the job, I would hope him to be speaking of tactical solutions before and after every game. That is surely the way forward, and I hope he adopts that format quite soon or we will surely be bidding him a fond farewell After all his CV is not full of great success.
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Post by OohMac on Dec 17, 2019 19:44:52 GMT
Still, you never know, KH may pull a rabbit out of the hat in January, so let’s hope so. Rabbit out of a hat. Or maybe a Bunney. Whos injury sort of sums up how bad its been for Keith. Ive been critical of Hill because i think he talks some nonsense, most in the heat of a post match interview and his quotes just dont stand up. But i do think that he is the right man at this time and still think we can only judge him in 12 months time at the earliest. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2019 20:49:51 GMT
As I have said before I’m not going to start calling the management team or the players because as far as I’m concerned they all get a free pass this season because of all the shxt we and they have had to put up with. I go to games now with a not to bothered attitude because it can only get better maybe not this season but maybe next season, all things point to next season zero points and maybe a half decent team. I just hope we don’t get a good beating on Boxing Day onwards and upwards COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 17, 2019 23:58:12 GMT
I suppose at the end of the day we have to be realistic in our expectations. We’re probably at the lowest ebb as a club that we’ve been at since the Lifeline days and it will take time to rebuild back up again.as it did back then. My criticism of KH is not a call for him to be replaced, far from it. I’m just saying it how I personally see it. My view on things is that we have bargain bucket players managed by a bargain bucket manager and I mean that as a simple fact not a criticism. I do though believe that no matter how poor quality the players you have a club should always attempt to recruit the best quality manager you can because a good manager can get the maximum out of what players he has. Once again I’d site Chris Wilder at Sheffield Utd. They now sit 5th in the PL and many of the players are those he had when he joined the club, including the likes of Chris Basham. That’s what a good manager can do for you but sadly I don’t see KH in that class. We do though need to at least give him a chance given the difficulties he’s having to face. I don’t expect miracles but I do expect a plan, a vision of what he’s trying to achieve. That’s what’s missing now for me. I thought we had it at the start but recent events lead me to doubt it. I’m confused what KH is doing and even more by what he says. I must confess his pre and post match interviews leave me no wiser as to what his objective is. I suppose that’s where we are as a club and as supporters we just have to go through it and hope we come out the other end in tact.
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tis the season of good will is it not ? bet your mother don't know if she finds out expect a clip round the ear for your unsportsman like behaveuor 
