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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 18:34:29 GMT
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Post by kenglowhite on Aug 27, 2019 18:40:18 GMT
Just researched Shaun Harvey, former CEO of the EFL, in view of allegations about his relationship with KA. It is amazing how close the two run. For instance Harvey is a former CEO of Bradford, from where Anderson hired our erstwhile manager Parkinson, and several players. As boss of the EFL Harvey was instrumental in making concessions to Anderson at BWFC, to which other chairmen objected unsuccessfully. And he was the guy who assured everyone last season that BWFC had enough money in hand to complete their programme. He was also said to be proposing to hold his leaving party on retirement from the EFL at a London restaurant owned by Anderson, but cancelled this presumably when news of it leaked out. This seems to indicate both the EFL under Harvey and BWFC under Ken Anderson have not been fit for purpose. Can we accept any judgment of the EFL under these questionable circumstances?
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Post by OohMac on Aug 27, 2019 19:46:31 GMT
Just researched Shaun Harvey, former CEO of the EFL, in view of allegations about his relationship with KA. It is amazing how close the two run. For instance Harvey is a former CEO of Bradford, from where Anderson hired our erstwhile manager Parkinson, and several players. As boss of the EFL Harvey was instrumental in making concessions to Anderson at BWFC, to which other chairmen objected unsuccessfully. And he was the guy who assured everyone last season that BWFC had enough money in hand to complete their programme. He was also said to be proposing to hold his leaving party on retirement from the EFL at a London restaurant owned by Anderson, but cancelled this presumably when news of it leaked out. This seems to indicate both the EFL under Harvey and BWFC under Ken Anderson have not been fit for purpose. Can we accept any judgment of the EFL under these questionable circumstances? Doesnt look right but nothing to suggest any laws broken. Just poor practise. One thing i would say is why dont we try and hit Anderson where it hurts. These protests at UniBol are water off a ducks back, he will turn TV off. Whenever Bolton play in and around the capital we could peacefully protest outside his restaurant. Cause a fuss. Make it an eatery you wouldnt want to spend an evening in. Next away game Gillingham. TBC.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 20:23:51 GMT
Okay, five o clock has been and gone. Not a word from Iles either. I doubt very much whether fans are still waiting outside the Reebok. Are they still deliberating, or have they gone out for a swift pint and will resume tomorrow?
All these threats from the EFL aren't holding water either. Perhaps someone is regretting making these statements.
I'm getting fed up with the whole charade. If we're expelled will the forum peter out? Quite a few posters conspicuous by their absence already.
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 27, 2019 20:32:57 GMT
In fairness wots, I don’t think Marc will get any word until a full statement is made so just reporting for the sake of it is pointless anyway, we’ve had enough waffling so we just have to wait like everybody else for the outcome. I would imagine most media and newspaper reporters are outside the Unibol now anyway, so we should all hear at the same time. Anyway, let’s hope OM keeps his habit of changing his moniker because it means we still have a team!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:57:47 GMT
Best comment I've read so far in the BN about waiting any news: "It's like being on death row".
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 27, 2019 22:20:55 GMT
Well the hangman’s just been confirmed for Bury as they are being expelled. How sad is that and although I was confident earlier the delay in news regarding Wanderers was a positive sign, the length of that delay is now giving me growing concern. That both Bury and ourselves could be expelled on the same day would surely have been unthinkable not so long ago but if it does happen I think the knock on effect for the EFL would surely be catastrophic. Two old established traditional teams destroyed by corrupt owners passed as fit by Harvey and his mates, irrespective of their past histories. Let’s hope we survive because the consequences of not doing are too dreadful to think about.
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Post by OohMac on Aug 27, 2019 22:28:00 GMT
A real blow to common sense. Bury expelled and Bolton given notice.
And still in both cases people/parties willing to take over the clubs but cant because of some cowboys that have stuck a quid in and think theyre owed millions.
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Post by whitesince63 on Aug 28, 2019 6:56:58 GMT
Just says everything about the EFL OM, too quick to fire the bullets and too slow to accept any blame. Something needs to be done about this organisation which can not prove it is fit for purpose whilst sanctioning the like of Dale and Anderson to own clubs like ours and Bury. In our case it makes it worse knowing that this is a man who they banned for eight years for similar transgressions in the past. Leopards don’t change spots yet apparently, even Bassini was considered by Harvey to be acceptable, though we only have Lorro’s word, or should I say text, for that. Very sad day to be a Bury fan and my heart goes out to them.
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Post by OohMac on Aug 28, 2019 9:35:41 GMT
I just dont understand the thinking behind throwing away 130+ years of history.
Bury in any shape or form will not be in a competitive match now until season 2020/21. So why do EFL have to say you have until 5pm on a Tuesday in August. With so much time before a ball is next kicked.
I would agree with them withdrawing from the league and cups. I do not understand though why thats not a warning shot to Steve Dale and ourselves to say you wont play but if you want to play next season in L2 a deal needs to be done by 31 December. If not then you have 6 months to find a new league. Could anyone argue with that.
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Post by OohMac on Aug 28, 2019 14:30:53 GMT
Latest from Bury. Dale asking to EFL to go back on thier decision as he does have a buyer and wants a secret ballot for remaining football league to vote on them and US. Not sure why hes dragging us into it.
My first thought was no, missed the deadline. If there was a serious bidder deal would have been done. Then thought that makes me go against my own argument of why punish a club for 1 man.
So now my thinking is that I would open the door but on the condition that Dale relinquishes all his shares and walks away.
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Post by kenglowhite on Aug 28, 2019 15:53:58 GMT
I'd be in favour of anything to save Bury.Many years ago, like wots, I watched them alternate weeks with the Wanderers and saw the emergence of Colin Bell, Alex Lindsay, Jimmy Karr, and, I think, Danny Wilson. I was amazed that we never tried to get Bell, because he had been quite outstanding for the Shakers for a few seasons before City snapped him up for a bargain £80,000. While on Bury, I notice the crocodile tears dropping from the face of Phil Neville, a Bolton family orginally, but moved out to live at Holcombe Brook. Their father, Nev. became a Bury director, and I understand their mother recently left her post as secretary at the club. Wouldn't it have been nice if Phil and brother Gary had moved to help their local club at this time to put something back into the town that is said to have nurtured them. I also have a friend of many years from Bury, whom I met during national service. However he has never supported Bury, but Manu, whom he has only been to watch a couple of times. His two sons are now fervent United fans, though living in London, and they only ever see their team on SKy. As teenagers I did manage to get tickets to a Manu game for them for their very first visit. The point I wish to make is how many potential paying fans have been lost to their local clubs by the slanting of media coverage towards successful clubs, through many reporters and sports editors pushing the teams they themslves grew up supporting ( Bascombe in The Telegraph is a good example). The consequence of people being encouraged to follow success is clearly shown today with the proposed loss of an outstanding homely nursery club.
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Post by kenglowhite on Aug 29, 2019 21:53:20 GMT
Sadly Bury is noe a completely lost cause unless their MP's proposed court case materialises and succeeds
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