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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 26, 2019 15:20:00 GMT
Well🤔🤔🤔🤔
Will they Won’t they
Either way it’s a 3 point loss whatever they do and personally, for me, they owe the long suffering supporters a debt of gratitude and MUST play these last 2 games regardless of if they get paid or not
If they do play and given the way The Bees you’re a strip off Leeds, it’s a 0-3 defeat for me Thanks for nothing Ken
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 26, 2019 16:41:21 GMT
I think they will play but despite Brentford having nothing to play for, I still expect them to whop us so I agree with your 0-3 score line rftr.
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Post by andyl on Apr 26, 2019 17:51:54 GMT
Well🤔🤔🤔🤔 Will they Won’t they Either way it’s a 3 point loss whatever they do and personally, for me, they owe the long suffering supporters a debt of gratitude and MUST play these last 2 games regardless of if they get paid or not If they do play and given the way The Bees you’re a strip off Leeds, it’s a 0-3 defeat for me Thanks for nothing Ken Your 0-3 is conservative, Maupay is arguably the best striker in the division. If betting maybe go for him to get a hattrick? Better return? Re the throway thsnks, Ken: lots may emerge but did he not have a point citing the transfer budget and the underperformance and non-selection of players? Was he not right earlier when observing that they were losing before Christmas And what about the BN's quote from Steve Parkin that they could pinpoint the slump to relegation after the qpr game. Seriously? I've brought back my early 'build round Oztumer post from early season- predicting what would happen if he didn't and most of you here and nearly all on other fora saw the writing on the wall before the season began. If you are criticising Ken then perhaps do it for the failure to change management. I still believe that this could have been with these players a mid- table outfit and much more saleable?!
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Post by greydad on Apr 26, 2019 22:17:03 GMT
Latest report from the BN is that the game is not going ahead, this after a previous article anmouncing that Bassini would pay the wages....it really is a desperately sorry state of affairs.
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Post by Alptrotter on Apr 27, 2019 7:13:55 GMT
Well🤔🤔🤔🤔 Will they Won’t they Either way it’s a 3 point loss whatever they do and personally, for me, they owe the long suffering supporters a debt of gratitude and MUST play these last 2 games regardless of if they get paid or not If they do play and given the way The Bees you’re a strip off Leeds, it’s a 0-3 defeat for me Thanks for nothing Ken Your 0-3 is conservative, Maupay is arguably the best striker in the division. If betting maybe go for him to get a hattrick? Better return? Re the throway thsnks, Ken: lots may emerge but did he not have a point citing the transfer budget and the underperformance and non-selection of players? Was he not right earlier when observing that they were losing before Christmas And what about the BN's quote from Steve Parkin that they could pinpoint the slump to relegation after the qpr game. Seriously? I've brought back my early 'build round Oztumer post from early season- predicting what would happen if he didn't and most of you here and nearly all on other fora saw the writing on the wall before the season began. If you are criticising Ken then perhaps do it for the failure to change management. I still believe that this could have been with these players a mid- table outfit and much more saleable?! I don’t disagree with many of your observations, Andy. Parkin’s comment is self evidently idiotic, and Anderson’s calling out of poor recruitment and wooden deployment of the squad have some validity ( though I wonder who did actually direct purchases and sales). I also believe that, managed more astutely and courageously, the squad was eminently capable of keeping out of relegation trouble, especially given the poor quality of the league. In that sense, I agree that many of our problems can be placed at Parky’s and his coaching team’s door. However, you are surely too generous to Anderson, if only by omission. Has he not created the desperately poor culture in and around the club? Think of the cancelled pre season friendly, the dismal and embarrassing Doidge episode, the shaming appearances in court, the barrage of self serving ‘Notes from the Chairman,’ the unfulfilled promise to ‘do whatever is necessary’ to improve performance on the pitch, the total lack of any sort of presence or leadership and decisive direction from the top, since before Christmas, and the feeble attempt to blame rightly discontented fans for that. I’m sure others on here will list many more of Anderson’s failings. In short, I think you’re giving him too easy a time, Andy. In my view, no one in any position of authority at the club comes out of this whole wretched history with much, if any credit. It looks increasingly like the Bassini rescue is a non starter and so I really do fear for the very survival of our club - at least in anything like its current form. BTW, I notice that Olkowski has given notice he wants to quit. No disrespect, but I think that merely confirms what has been obvious on the pitch for a good few months now.
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Post by davidm on Apr 27, 2019 8:21:16 GMT
I need someone to tell me what the players have achieved by this strike!
They knew the situation with Anderson and Bassini, i.e. Bassini couldn’t pay the wages as he did not have control of the club and Anderson had no intention of paying out any money at all.
What we had was a bad situation whereby the players were not paid and not likely to be paid April’s wages next week so I accept that it was a really nasty situation
BUT
The players refusal to play has now scuppered us for next season also.
The players will eventually get their money albeit extremely late. The vast majority will then move on to other clubs next season. The club itself though will receive swingeing sanctions from the EFL – who themselves are far from blameless.
I expect a heavy heavy fine – no money to pay it mind – but more significantly a probable points deduction for next season and, god forbid, maybe an extra demotion.
If the players had somehow held fire, played (and probably lost) these 2 games, they would eventually be paid very late and the club would be starting afresh next season. We now face a bad punishment thanks to the players.
I accept that Anderson and Bassini are mainly at fault but why oh why push us over the edge?
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 27, 2019 8:24:18 GMT
Not one person in our club has stood up and taken control of this situation, which is so sad. Our weak, spineless, excuse for a manager has proved by hiding through all this, his complete ineptitude and lack of backbone. The players likewise, what a sad, disfunctional group. Where's the fight, where's the respect for club and fans. Where's the determination to chase the perpetrator rather than take it out on the blameless. It's not right what's happening, contracts should be honoured, everybody accepts that and understands the players feelings but damaging the club and punishing the fans can not be the way to act. I had little respect for the management and players after their performances this year but now I feel only contempt for them all and hope they remain unpaid until they individually chase legally the blame where it lies.
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Post by davidm on Apr 27, 2019 10:04:04 GMT
So who is in charge of the club?
Statement on BWFC web site:-
Further to the statement made by Bolton Wanderers Football Club on Wednesday 17 April 2019, the club would like to further update supporters and stakeholders.
As previously stated, a formal Sale and Purchase Agreement between Laurence Bassini and Inner Circle Investments Limited had been agreed and, subject to acceptance by the English Football League (EFL), the sale would have been completed as envisaged between the parties. Part of this agreement required Mr Bassini to undertake certain actions to ensure the club could operate during the approval process.
The principal undertakings given by Mr Bassini confirmed he would supply the short term funding required to ensure the business can continue whilst the requirements of the EFL are undertaken.
Mr Bassini addressed the squad prior to the game against Aston Villa on Friday 19 April. At this meeting he gave a commitment to arrange payment to the players and coaching staff who are still due their outstanding salaries from March by no later than Wednesday 24 April.
Despite further promises made to both the team manager and senior representatives of the squad no funding has been made available to allow payment to the staff or players.
Mr Bassini also failed to make the funds available, which he confirmed would be placed in the club’s account prior to the Aston Villa game. These funds were required to ensure the attendance of the emergency services under the stadium’s safety certificate.
Mr Bassini gave assurance the monies required had been sent by Metro Bank on numerous occasions. Once it became clear that Mr Bassini had not transferred these funds Ken Anderson quickly sent the required amount to ensure the game could be played even though it was not his responsibility.
During the past ten days numerous further undertakings have been given by Mr Bassini but as of today no funds have ever been received.
Given the broken promise Mr Bassini gave to the players that their wages will be paid by no later than Wednesday 24 April the squad have informed the club that they will not make themselves available for selection for today’s game against Brentford. Given this decision the club had no alternative other than to postpone the fixture.
The club will discuss the matter with both the EFL and Brentford and a further statement will be made to supporters in respect of any arrangements for playing this game.
Ken Anderson wishes to make it absolutely clear to supporters, staff and all stakeholders that the agreement reached with Mr Bassini has not changed or has he in any way attempted to renegotiate the agreed terms of the signed agreement between the parties. Mr Bassini has not carried out, or made us aware, of any further due diligence on the business which would lead him to any change of mind and attempt to breach the agreement.
The agreement between Inner Circle Investments and Mr Bassini would have resulted in a personal loss to Mr Anderson but he felt the deal offered by Mr Bassini was the best option to allow a quick and a solvent solution for the club, something that has been at the foremost of his thoughts during the process.
Unfortunately Inner Circle Investments and Ken Anderson as the only director of the company cannot allow this process to continue and therefore he is now receiving independent advice from his professional advisors.
A further announcement will be made once a final decision has been made.
So Anderson is able to make statements on the BWFC website. To me, this implies that Ken Anderson is still in charge and that Bassini has already defaulted on his commitment to the club.
We are in desperate times.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 10:13:09 GMT
Why do the words frying pan and fire and assette stripper spring to mind .
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 27, 2019 11:03:33 GMT
WOW I’ve just seen the Jim Whyte interview with Bassini
He doesn’t have many nice things to say about Ken Anderson At one point I thought he was going to cry
We are truly on the brink now
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Post by thegrud1 on Apr 27, 2019 11:12:06 GMT
The players have my 100% support ....how many of you would work for 2 months without pay ??...I think you are being a little bit two faced !
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 27, 2019 12:00:16 GMT
The players have my 100% support ....how many of you would work for 2 months without pay ??...I think you are being a little bit two faced ! Who is that aimed at Grud???
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Post by davidm on Apr 27, 2019 12:17:02 GMT
The players have my 100% support ....how many of you would work for 2 months without pay ??...I think you are being a little bit two faced ! Grud, Just explain to me what the players have achieved by their action please.
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Post by thegrud1 on Apr 27, 2019 12:21:35 GMT
Some on here seem happy that the players/staff have not been paid....pretty sure if they were in the same place they would have a different attitude....in life sometimes you have to draw a line..make a stand,and its not for anyone else to say where that line is
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Post by davidm on Apr 27, 2019 12:39:29 GMT
Some on here seem happy that the players/staff have not been paid....pretty sure if they were in the same place they would have a different attitude....in life sometimes you have to draw a line..make a stand,and its not for anyone else to say where that line is You've still not answered the question. What have they achieved? They haven't been paid. They have dragged the name of Bolton Wanderers even farther into the mire. They will inflict EFL fines and probably points deduction on the club because of their actions AND ACHIEVED NOTHING other than more negative publicity. I am certainly not happy that players haven't been paid but their actions have just threatened the future of our club even more
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