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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 19, 2019 19:59:42 GMT
Sam will never come back here and personally I don't want him to. Sam's the past. It was great but it's gone and it's unlikely to come again. We need a completely new start with a new Sam who has everything in front of him. Everybody knows that in life it's the getting there that's great. Sam got there, manager of England. Why on Earth would he want to go back to division one? I'd rather have David Lee who has the "getting there" ambition still in front of him. He's done a first class job with the development squad so why not a chance in division one?
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Post by OohMac on Apr 20, 2019 7:57:34 GMT
Couple of Quotes from Larry Bass from BBC Manchester interview.
The good
"Im not going to be on the board. We need the right footballing men on the board. I'm going to be overlooking finances"
Obviously recognises his limitations and had Ken have had more people to assist he may not have fallen down the manholes he did.
He also said, (the bad)
"Hes(PP) worked very very hard in the circumstances and is a good manager. The only game i went to was QPR where they won"
That was before yesterday so i hope he went and saw the norm. I dont think it was the worst crowd of the season, but with relegation on the line, well supported opponents with playoffs on the line, and it being a bank holiday, and weather to boot, good chance of getting close to a full house.
I would hope he would mix with the supporters and ask why its not full and thier honest thoughts on PP and for me that means a new manager HAS to be in charge.
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Post by kenglowhite on Apr 20, 2019 8:31:06 GMT
The sale of Madine left PP bereft in the only style of play he knows, and his replacement, McGennis, hasn't come up to scratch. Selling Madine was another case of robbing Peter to pay Paul(actually kept us im business), and for that PP has suffered, but has been unable to come up with the better type of football now played in the modern world. One thing any style of football demands is the ability to tackle and to press opponents in possession. That way they can give away possession, which is something we have been doing all season - clearing the ball indiscriminately and kicking or heading it back to opponents in acres of midfield space. We were happy, with Madine, to get promoted first time from League One, while often being outplayed by lesser teams using midfield spaces to trouble us, but our defence was a bit younger then. I don't think I could stand Phil's lack of tactical nous in that league again.It's a great pity we missed out on Chris Wilder back then.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 20, 2019 9:10:38 GMT
As well as Madine Kenglo, he also still had the remains of a largely PL squad in Div1. That he still struggled to get us up speaks volumes as does his extremely fortunate escape last year with the lowest ever survival points total. He really should have gone then and certainly by Christmas but of course Anderson had given up by then, knew he was going and didn't want to be concerned about our future. Parky's had it tough, no question about that and he's conducted himself impeccably but despite all that you really would have to be extremely forgiving to consider he deserves to stay. Best to bite the bullet, look at his past and the awful, negative systems he espouses and let him move elsewhere. I genuinely believe, despite his tactics, he will soon be appointed elsewhere, maybe even back at Bradford, but wherever that is I just hope it's somewhere away from here.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 23, 2019 8:12:38 GMT
Surely after yesterday's abject performance and same old failing team and system, LB if passed fit this week, must realise he has to part company with Parkinson and his mates. He has broken almost all negative records in the history of our club, the travelling fans at Blackburn, made their feelings clear and if he does his due diligence on finances, then he must see that Parky would cost him there as well by fans staying away. When even long term and current season ticket holders abandon the club it must send a signal to a prospective owner. I can't believe that he will fall for the excuses Parky constantly trips out about lack of resources in the transfer market if Andersons claim of players signed on £10k a week not playing is true. He signs the players, 58 of them, picks the players and trains the players. As always in management the buck stops with you. LB has to start firmly by accepting Parky is the problem, no giving him another chance because nothing will change. Fresh start, clean sheet, big clear out and let's get everybody on side for a new start next season.
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Post by kenglowhite on Apr 23, 2019 8:37:37 GMT
Apart from the Armstrong and Lefondre examples, Whites, I would once again refer to the McGoldrick business. WE could have had him for £500,000 or less towards the end of his Ipswich contract. Instead we let him sign for free for Sheffield United , where he has provided a shedload of goals. Instead we allowed Wilder to off load Donaldson to us so that he could accommodate McGoldrick. That is how our club has been run.....very badly.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 23, 2019 9:05:11 GMT
Sort of confirms how useless Parky's chief scout pal from Bradford is then. We're probably better off if he can't afford petrol to get around and find more Donaldson's? The whole crew he's brought in with him are low level and have been proved so. Everybody accepts Parkinson's demeanour but let's face it, he's only still here because of the owners lack of real interest in the future of our club. Any other owner would have parted company much earlier. As you prove with McGoldrick, there are good players out there and we could have signed them. Chungy is another we could have had and personally I'd still have kept Zach who is still better than what we have. Sadly though, like Oz, neither would probably have suited his system and been subs at best. I just can't see any reason to keep him but of course it all depends on how LB sees it and what his priorities are. If he sought the views of the Supporters Club at the match yesterday, they hopefully outlined the growing dissatisfaction with Parkinson's tenure. Promising at least that he is seeking views and let's hope when he does sit down with Parky he thanks him for his time but tells him he's no longer needed.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Apr 23, 2019 13:14:00 GMT
Excellent summary W63 Although like I’ve mentioned elsewhere about the Whites results, had August been as bad as all of the rest of the months, Parkhoofson would still be here. I just don’t believe Anderson ever wanted to dirty his hands in offloading PP as he was clearly only here to make a quick buck. Had he have handled the Chairmanship of our wonderful club with tact and proper footballing interest, he’d have seen a long time ago that PP was not the man for the job.. LB should not consult the Supporters Trust for the SP on Parkhoofson as with the greatest of respect, some of them are happy clappers, happy with PP, most notably Eric Elliott, SmithillsSmoothie and Bennythedope to name built a few. What we need now is a brand new set up in a manager not afraid to go to Bassini and say, right gaffer, I need X amount of pounds and I want to sign X Y and Z to kick off next season, if not we really are doomed. The owner of Ipswich has plenty cash to buy his way back up to the Championship and there’s also other teams, should they fail, like Portsmouth and Sunderland that are now more than ever, well equipped to take the 2 promotion spots in L1 for next season. Also, teams coming up into L1 will be better equipped than us (if we stick with this tit any longer) PP is not the man to bring us back up, he HAS to go and if supporters are not buying next seasons tickets, it could be too late for LB to act, he MUST act now New broom sweeps clean
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Post by kenglowhite on Apr 23, 2019 13:39:30 GMT
I have just received an Email from a very old friend and Bolton supporter who lives in the Watford area once again stressing the background of Bassini, and in particular his lack of football knowledge. Many of us seem to be pinning our hopes on him doing something helpful, but I wonder what next if the EFL bars him as could happen,possibly for the best. My friend lists the number of assets he might be able to sell off in his asset-stripping guise, but I feel reassured that the hotel and car parks still seem to be charged to Michael James, and the ground has been secured for sole use of football.His arrival has given many renewed hope for the future, although I feel action is still needed from the stakeholders, MrMichael James, Brett Warburton and the Davies family. Why are they so quiet?Tthe Bassini bid could still fall through at the EFL, and he doesn't seem to fit the bill in any case. Time may be short and something needs to be done very quickly.
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Post by OohMac on Apr 23, 2019 18:24:32 GMT
Exactly. He cannot get the stadium, car parks. Im not sure about hotel. My biggest concern with Ken is that he would sell players, invest nothing back.
Really were effectively a team with no contracted players as they could all give thier notice. So im not sure what there is left.
As a club were not even a fixer upper. Were a knock it down and start again.
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Post by whitesince63 on Apr 23, 2019 23:21:29 GMT
Yes, it's all very confusing. I'm still intrigued to know where LBs money is coming from if he's going to pay off all bills and leave the club debt free. To do that he'd also have to pay the loans to Michael James, ED and Warby, so maybe the assets aren't so safe after all. Add to that the possibility of mortgaging rather than selling assets, he could still land the club in deep trouble. I thought we would have heard from the EFL before now so they're obviously looking seriously into Bassini, which is at least positive. Should they reject him, I assume Administration awaits, which may turn out to be the best long term bet if a genuine new owner/consortium take over. Whatever happens and however it turns out I just can't see anyone realistically thinking Parkinson is the right man for us. Surely anybody wanting to take the club over will need the fans on side and must see the sense of feeling against him, or at least one would hope they do!!
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Post by OohMac on Apr 24, 2019 6:44:59 GMT
I thought we would have heard from the EFL before now so they're obviously looking seriously into Bassini, which is at least positive. Should they reject him, I assume Administration awaits When he announced the deal was done he hadnt even submitted the forms. Unsure if thats been done now or not but given that today is only 2nd working day until he toured the stadium im not surprised we havent heard anything and dont think it means the EFL will delve any deeper than they did when they let Ken and other crooks into the football league. If LB is a patsy for money men then why choose a patsy witb such a chequered past, you would ensure the EFL sign off with no qualms. If you cared about Bolton you would get a local frontman surely. So that leaves possibility that LB is the main moneyman. Again from his Watford days, Bazini days its hard to see that this is the case. If he had nothing and was effectively mortgaging like Dean Holdsworth then surely only loan sharks and Wonga would go near him. Bankrupcy, assume a fair amount of CCJs, doesnt he still owe Watford £3M. I cant put it together and I know a few others have alluded to it but i wonder if Ken has effectively given his shares away to hault the Davies' family taking control. I know they dont personally want them but if they had a Kenyon type in thier ear saying "we wont deal with Ken. But you take his shares, as you can do, we will buy them and see you right" maybe Kens thinking quick way of stopping that. Give them away, a backhanded payment or clause that he gets something back or maybe he too can claim the shares back if first payment is defaulted...." Ive no idea to be honest. Whats for sure is there needs to be more clarity and transparency in football.
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Post by kenglowhite on Apr 24, 2019 8:39:32 GMT
Some excellent points, Jung, and I am geatly surprised that the BN is not raising many of them. The fact is nobody is saying anything to assuage our concerns about the future of BWFC. The rather nebulous stuff in the BN is unworthy of investigative journalism, and there are key players locally who should be commenting. Soon season tickets should be on offer (they were offered a month ago last year), the managerial situation needs sorting,retained lsists announced, and there are debts to be settled, but no-one is asking the questions, and nobody is putting supporters' minds at ease. Like with Brexit, Bwexit needs a strong man at the helm. Would that one would arise from the ashes.
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Post by cadders on Apr 25, 2019 21:40:54 GMT
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Post by kenglowhite on Apr 26, 2019 12:13:01 GMT
Yes, agree with that, but more concerned about the stalemate at the club. More investigative journalism needs to be done by the local paper in the interest of thousands of Boltonian supporters, or are they in fact in the know but afraid to reveal what they know.
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