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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 14:51:08 GMT
Again, no match thread before game day. Perhaps there's too much anticipation for takeover news. Based on our win on Saturday, I see another win ahead. It'll be tough going, but I think the players will be up for it. Paid, or not. 1-0 Wanderers...
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 12, 2019 15:08:10 GMT
I think you're right about the only interest being the T/O Wots, it's certainly my main concern. I continually log onto the BN website hoping to see it confirmed but so far only to be disappointed. I'm confident it will happen but there's many a slip twixt cup and lip!! As for the game tonight, I'm not sure. I think Millwall on Saturday were by all accounts very poor and so I don't think we can read too much into it. However, with O'Neil, Williams and Connelly starring in midfield, it could be the catalyst for something good to happen. That is of course if Parky leaves it alone and doesn't try to unsettle it with Lowe and Noone. It would be typical of him to do just that and waste another opportunity but I sincerely hope not. Wednesday certainly have improved under Bruce though and a win for them tonight puts them on the edge of the play offs, so we know they'll be going for it, they have nothing to lose. I hope your 1-0 score is right but sadly I'm going for a 1-2 defeat and pretty much relegation confirmed.
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Post by OohMac on Mar 12, 2019 15:34:10 GMT
Well theres wages, tax and loan repayments due at the end of the month so somethings got to happen and fast.
Have a worry that if we win it will only give Ken more of a hand in the power struggle and i wouldnt be surprised if talks of "two other" interested parties came out of the woodwork.
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 12, 2019 16:56:35 GMT
I'm not sure OM, with winding up orders stacking up, wages to pay and speculation that the ED family want the £5m loan paying back by Thursday, I really think Ken is backed into a corner this time and would not miss the chance to sell. Looked at the other way, a win tonight would increase our chances of survival for the new owners so they may want to get in quick to try and assist it. Who knows? Nothing would surprise us would it but let's hope at least the Whites can put on another performance tonight and at least keep the great escape dream alive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 18:44:01 GMT
Wages paid players should be up for this t/o almost done so I would love a 2-1 win and maybe the great escape to build momentum. I know it might mean that we have to put up with more Parky shxt hoofball but it's got to be a means to an end. I have said I will return when both Anderson and Parky have left the ReMac for good and I will stick with that. Saying that I have planed my trip to Pride Park with my Derby supporting work mate in the hope that Parky has left the building. 13th April fingers crossed. COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:48:53 GMT
Ouch! 1-0 to the Owls.
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Post by OohMac on Mar 12, 2019 21:12:21 GMT
Time is now Phil. Should have been at least a double substitution at half time. Lowe, noone off. Connell and Donaldson on. 3 up front.
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Post by OohMac on Mar 12, 2019 21:20:08 GMT
Blown it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 22:45:57 GMT
Sad but why change a winning team he will never learn we win on Saturday so he changes the team can't work it out. If this t/o happens this week it has to be a clean sweep a new management team so they can check the team out for themselves in our last nine competitive fixtures and see who we keep for next season. COYWM
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Post by andyl on Mar 12, 2019 22:47:17 GMT
A huge chasm of managerial knowledge, experience and effectiveness. Once Williams and Connelly were broken up and the negative Lowe returned everyone's game foundered.
Magennis and especially Ameobi offered nothing upfront.
There was nothing much in it until Bannen capitalised on an Olkowski/ Williams misunderstanding and broke clear to feed Fletcher.
Hobbes was back to his usual lapses of concentration. Matthews who has now gone native and begun kicking poorly made a good smart save late on but by that time had been beaten by a man clear through when he charged out.
There's nothing good to say. Connell came on and played three good passes but looked a boy among men. It's ludicrous that he is ahead of Oztumer and Murphy in the manager's thinking. Ahead of Wilson as a sub yes. Buckley came on and modelled jis black gloves but did little else.
Matthews 5 Olkowski 5 Hobbes 4 Beevers 6 Connelly 6 O'Neil 5 Lowe 4 Williams 5 Ameobi 2 Magennis 3 Noone 4 Buckley 0 Donaldson 5 ( a good shot late on) Connell 4 .
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Post by whitesince63 on Mar 12, 2019 23:41:02 GMT
A very disappointing but not surprising performance. As usual Parkinson can't help himself changing the team from one that wins to one that doesn't. Second half we were completely overrun with Bannon at the heart of everything Wednesday did. I fail to accept that Oz can't have the same effect for us, especially with a potential midfield ncluding Williams, Connell and Connolly. It seemed patently obvious that Ameobi was having one of his off nights and for me should have been withdrawn other than the fact there is nobody else on the bench worthy of replacing him. Here again, Oz could fulfil that role of working off Magennis, who I feel desperately sorry for as he gets zero service. Once again I put the performance right at the door of Parkinson. What these guys do all week in training I just done know because there is absolutely no coordination in the team at all, no movement off the ball and no momentum building. Please let the takeover be soon and let Parky leave with Ken. I don't see any way now we can survive so get someone new in straight away to assess the players for a promotion push next year.
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Post by Alptrotter on Mar 13, 2019 7:40:07 GMT
Nothing really to add to the observations of Andy and Whites. A poor game, played in difficult conditions, but as has been said, not helped by Parky bringing Lowe back into midfield. I did have the sense that, especially in the first half, we were trying to move the ball on the ground more than has been the case for most of the season. If this was the plan, why not play someone who can pass eg Oztumer or Connell ( sorry, Andy, I just don’t rate Murphy at all) rather than Lowe? Ameobi is not a playmaker in that sense, he’s more likely to create something for himself, not others.
Thankfully we didn’t lose ground on a bad night at the office. But we have to start picking them up, beginning at the weekend against what must be a dispirited Wigan.
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Post by greydad on Mar 13, 2019 8:51:15 GMT
Last night had a definite air of predictability, particularly around 7.00pm...the government would lose the meaningf!al vote and Parky would change the team that won it's previous match. Cue an almost complete lack of cohesion and dynamism in midfield, the very qualities evident in Saturday's 2nd half that enabled the team to achieve their deserved victory . A win last night would have really set things up for this comong Saturday. Millwall are otherwise engaged and a win at Wigan would see them reeled in to within a point of the Whites. Rotherham have to negotiate QPR away tonight and Norwich at home at the weekend, so what a difference 3 points would have made last night...had the same 11 struggled v Wednesday fair enough, but why not give them the opportunity, sometimes there is great virtue in knowing when to leave well alone.
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Post by OohMac on Mar 13, 2019 8:56:11 GMT
Nothing really to add to the observations of Andy and Whites. A poor game, played in difficult conditions, but as has been said, not helped by Parky bringing Lowe back into midfield. I did have the sense that, especially in the first half, we were trying to move the ball on the ground more than has been the case for most of the season. If this was the plan, why not play someone who can pass eg Oztumer or Connell ( sorry, Andy, I just don’t rate Murphy at all) rather than Lowe? Ameobi is not a playmaker in that sense, he’s more likely to create something for himself, not others. Thankfully we didn’t lose ground on a bad night at the office. But we have to start picking them up, beginning at the weekend against what must be a dispirited Wigan. Thats PP way of thinking. Didnt lose ground, will take that. A win and we could have been playing Wigan at the weekend knowing a win could take us out of the drop. What motivation especially with back to back wins. But Phil once again plays a negative team with a stay in the game mentality, set up not to score again. Half time we should have come out all guns blazing, differnt look and feel in truth we never even came out. Cannot accept at this stage not trying to win every game. Cannot accept changing the team to acccomodate Lowe - ha, captain! (Sunday league manager's son syndrome) And for all the talk of this squad not being strong enough how then can Oztumber, Pritchard, Earing or Hall not get a place. Even on the bench. The money were wasting on these past it players could have gone on one or two quality loan signings.
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Post by davidm on Mar 13, 2019 9:41:14 GMT
Another must-win game in our predicament but what an uninspiring performance (and approach to the game).
I have believed for ages that we were doomed to relegation but after Saturday I thought a win tonight and a win at Wigan would see us back in the pack and in with a chance. What a spiritless performance that was to dash all hopes.
We put on a decent performance on Saturday, everyone agreed that Williams and Connolly ran the midfield so what does our manager do? Breaks up the midfield and brings in Lowe whose only idea is to turn and pass backwards.
Ridiculous management!
We actually had a decent first 20 minutes when we passed through midfield reasonably accurately BUT created nothing. One half shot/centre from Noone was it. Wednesday at this stage did nothing.
We faded though as usual and Wednesday just did the basics – i.e. passed the ball to colleagues and slowly but surely got on top.
The fact that we don’t create chances – no shots at all in the first half – always comes back to bite us as we cannot defend. Just before half time Bannon split our defence wide open for Wednesday to score. Just slow fast asleep defending.
What happens at half time I don’t know but we came out for the second half fast asleep.
Wednesday kicked off and had the ball totally for the next 5 minutes. They just passed it around us and got the ball in our box 3 times dangerously.
We couldn’t react and the pattern for the second half was set. Wednesday just passed the ball around us and we were just never in it.
The inevitable happened when we were wide open down their left for the winger to score. What happened to our defensive shape there, I don’t now.
And that was it – 30 minutes to go, hardly any possession, never got into their box at all until Noone had one good chance which was blocked. The Wednesday keeper made his first save in the 93rd minute when Donaldson got clear on the left.
It was a weak gutless performance that confirms that we have little chance of escaping.
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Matthews - 6 One excellent save to prevent 3-0. Wayward kicking but may be down to the wind. Olkowski - 5 Where was he for the second goal? Some runs but the ball seemed to stick under his feet and no decent crosses at all. Beevers - 4 Some of the poorest defensive headers out of our box straight to opponents. Had a really difficult night. Hobbs - 3 Awful performance. Outfought and out played by the Wednesday strikers. Connolly - 5 Out of position at left back. Please never take another free-kick. Lowe - 2 Wholly negative. 90% of his passes go back to the centre halves. Williams - 5 Tried hard but slowly sunk as the game went on. O’Neil - 4 MOM on Saturday – invisible tonight. Ameobi - 3 From minute 1, his ball control was terrible. The ball bounced everywhere off him. Really poor. Noone - 3 Wasted most opportunities to get the ball in the box and like his mate Buckley was more or less anonymous. Magennis - 3 Isolated but he really is a poor footballer. He cannot hold the ball up at all which is his role in this team. Buckley - 2 Yet again, just nothing. Donaldson - 4 Forced the only save out of the Wednesday keeper in the 93rd minute. Connell - 6 Only on a while but made more positive passes than the whole team in the previous 75 mins.
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