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Post by OohMac on Feb 2, 2019 16:37:26 GMT
Was going to say 80, maybe 90% of goals conceded seem to come from Hobbs.
Thought he was a huge improvement on Dervite. Looks carbon copy.
Is that Parkys style chipping away or just getting exposed.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 16:55:19 GMT
Lost 2-0 not scored in 15 of our last 23 games very poor and Conner Hall not on the bench. To be fair until jack Hobbs feel asleep we just about did enough for a point but his name is first on the team sheet God knows why ? COYWM
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Post by Alptrotter on Feb 2, 2019 17:21:47 GMT
The best thing about today’s game was that Sky had a commentator, so I could watch without having to listen to the dreadful Tower man. This was a very poor game. Whether Sheffield are so bad, or we just dragged them down to our level, both teams were rubbish.
Parky set us up in his usual ultradefensive formation, but, until Sharp pushed Hobbs off the ball ( a free kick in my opinion, but Hobbs was far too weak) and fed Mcgoldrick, they hadn’t really threatened. Donaldson looks like he could play til next Christmas and not score. Today he had a chance very close in, but at a tight angle. His headed effort was like a back pass to the keeper. Between their goals, Taylor had acres of space and loads of time in the box but was on his right foot and wouldn’t even try a shot. Pathetic! Then Hobbs simply let Sharp run onto a routine free kick and head home. . Two shocking pieces of defending and two goals. Hobbs for me is just too soft and prone to lapses in concentration. Play him only when absolutely unavoidable.
Connolly looked no better than Pritchard, Ameobi continues to look wholly uninterested, Connell had some nice touches, but he surely should take a better corner. In fact our crossing was again of a very low order. We had promising positions, but a combination of poor passing and no forward presence meant we created no real threat. Vela was dreadful. He looks like he needs a new start away from Parky.
Sheffield are no worldbeaters, but Wilder has them constantly on the front foot, even when they are not playing well. He’s a coach who clearly understands that attack is the best form of defence. Oh for a little of that attitude from our very own Parky.
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Post by boris on Feb 2, 2019 17:24:36 GMT
Hi Guys, I very rarely comment on here but always read your post and pre match analysis as it usually has some interesting and funny points on. Been a Wanderers fan all my life (in my sixties now) and hark back to the 'good old days' just like all you supporters. Not been to the match for two or three years now but still catch the results in the forlorn hope we might turn things around.
I truly sympathise with all of you in keeping faith with the 'white men' but can't help feeling this is the worse period in the clubs history that I can remember. We've endured some pretty dire managers, results and off field shenanigans but, we are looking more likely to be relegated with every match, yet we seem to have a rather clueless manager with a slightly more clueless owner. I despair at the depths this club has been dragged down to and can only hope for some divine intervention.
Keep the faith guys, I'm sure our fortunes will change.
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Post by OohMac on Feb 2, 2019 17:50:00 GMT
Genuinely dont see the point in trying to scrape through for another season of this.
We need to think of league one and what type of squad we will have next year.
Out of interest how much money would these be on thinking of where theyve come from? Murphy(Leeds) Wilson(Stoke) O'Neil(B City) Wildshut(Norwich) Noone (Cardiff) and Buckley(Brighton)
Admittedly some will have run out of thier contracts but the majority would have been on Premiership wages still. I think they will be on decent money still and all are obershadowed by a 17 year old. Whats worse is that majority of fans could have told Ken/Phil.
Not to vilify Marc Wilson but when Ken sees his spreadsheet he must wonder about some of the signings. If its Phil he needs to go.
Stop buying 5 journeymen when 1 player and a young player to suppliment the squad will do.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 18:08:22 GMT
I know it's old ground and we all know that waxkerson will not sack Parky so why would he keep telling the fans to turn up and back the management team. I was thinking about going against Preston at home just to shout abuse at the players and management team/owner BUT sadly there is still fans who want to fight me because I've had enough and want to let the whole set up at Bolton know. By abuse I mean singing what a load of rubbish and your not fit to wear or manage or own Bolton that kind of thing. So until we are back in division one I'll just stay away and comment on here or the BEN. Ps not a bad try today at killing football for 56 minutes. COYWM
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Post by Pedro on Feb 2, 2019 19:45:50 GMT
Didn't go - just couldn't face it and I nearly always go away to Sheffield. Listened on Radio Manc for a change - anything rather than hearing that bloody awful commentator on Tower FM. First half sounded okay but two mistakes by Hobbs and it was all over. 6 shots and only one on target while Billy Sharp gets his twentieth goal for the season. How long is it now that we have been missing a proper striker? Rocket science? . At least Nadine didn't score. Ken we have nothing to lose now. Bring in David Lee and as many of the youngsters as we are allowed and send Parky and his mob of incompetent cronies on Gardening leave.
Home TeamSheff UtdAway TeamBolton
Possession Home56% Away44%
Shots Home12 Away6
Shots on Target Home2 Away1
Corners Home13 Away3
Fouls Home8 Away14
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Post by riochforthereebok on Feb 2, 2019 19:58:58 GMT
Hi Guys, I very rarely comment on here but always read your post and pre match analysis as it usually has some interesting and funny points on. Been a Wanderers fan all my life (in my sixties now) and hark back to the 'good old days' just like all you supporters. Not been to the match for two or three years now but still catch the results in the forlorn hope we might turn things around. I truly sympathise with all of you in keeping faith with the 'white men' but can't help feeling this is the worse period in the clubs history that I can remember. We've endured some pretty dire managers, results and off field shenanigans but, we are looking more likely to be relegated with every match, yet we seem to have a rather clueless manager with a slightly more clueless owner. I despair at the depths this club has been dragged down to and can only hope for some divine intervention. Keep the faith guys, I'm sure our fortunes will change. Great post Boris and good to hear from you. Please participate as often as you can and whilst we’re still solvent. It’s much different than the Bolton News on here as weee all like minded, only want the best for our club and have our say without the need to offend anyone Welcome aboard the bumpy ride and like you, let’s hope for a favour from him upstairs (and I don’t mean Ken either)
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Post by OohMac on Feb 2, 2019 20:01:05 GMT
If the BN ever did a poll i imagine 10% of the fans would be behind Parky. Majority blaming Ken.
I just dont understand why anyone cannot be fooled by Parky after 3 years nearly.
Primative football. Plays for 0-0 and had kept 1 clean sheet in 21 i think.
Last season we admittedly could tell wje a team where having a rank bad game and took advantage. Thibk of that snowy Villa game or the Sky game against Bristol City.
This year its been the case where the opposition have been awful and still grabbed a win.
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Post by kenglowhite on Feb 2, 2019 20:13:42 GMT
Ched Evans and Leon Clarke but grabbing goals today too. 2-0 No doubt Parky will point out thier premiership credentials. League one rivals at one point. Knocked them out of the cup. Them and Millwall improving. Parky will still be happy only 3 goals or worse does he see as a defeat. Quite right. Why does he continue to pick defensive teams.Surely he must now realise that the early season results were down to good luck as much as through his methods, Obviously a narrow defeat doesn't look too bad UNTIL it's happening every game and all due to Parkinson's picks. He should have been well out of the place by now, and hopefully Anderson will move soon, please !
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Post by whitesince63 on Feb 3, 2019 11:10:16 GMT
If you listen to him Kenglo, Parky doesn't think he is fielding a defensive team. It's no good thinking he'll suddenly realise he's got it wrong because he has played this way through his whole managerial career. He will point to promotion in his first season here and survival last year as proof his system works but the fact he did it with shed loads of luck and against ultra weak opposition will go ignored. Sadly as long as he's here the future is black and there doesn't seem any indication to me that Anderson is about to remove him. Our only hope therefore is the rumoured takeover so let's hope it's more than speculation for once.
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Post by andyl on Feb 4, 2019 17:26:33 GMT
It crossed my mind that if Billy Sharp were a Bolton player I don't think he would have been consistently selected for our team?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 17:54:47 GMT
It crossed my mind that if Billy Sharp were a Bolton player I don't think he would have been consistently selected for our team? Based on what Andy?The way he brushed off Hobbs and his goals tally should get him first on the team sheet. Is whites bringing you round to his point of view on Parky's changing team selection and defensive minded setup?
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Post by andyl on Feb 4, 2019 22:16:13 GMT
I've always been of that view. I said at the start of the season that if Phil built an attack on the service of the obviously talented, Otzumer it could shape our way forward but that also if he didn't we'd struggle.
Every selection is weighed on defensive criteria. Murphy vanished after a defensive flop early on. Oztumer has carried the can for the Hull capitulation.
Magennis is good and threatening facing goal and in receipt of service a threat. Donaldson is ok back to goal but offers no threat. Who is preferred? Buckley carries a threat moving forward especially from inside forward so he's stuck out wide on his wrong foot and forced to backtrack.
I could go on. If we had Billy Sharp much as Le Fondre, Clough and Armstrong he would have been a bench player and only have the odd goal because we just don't prioritise that sort of forward and seldom two up.
Overall if individuals in our squad have strengths as often as not they lie in forward movement. Phil puts his faith in backward movement as practised by Lowe. So the pace of Wildschut was not deployed centrally, Noone was wasted on the right and latterly with Ameobi has really operated on the edges of a five man defensively oriented midfield five.
I could go on . I do think Phil has shown strengths of defensive organisation but his attacking acumen seems modest and a much more obvious cause of our league position than anything Ken has done. Ken and the criticism of him has distracted attention from the more obviius cause of our on field malaise ie the under prioritisation of attack by our manager.
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Post by OohMac on Feb 5, 2019 15:00:50 GMT
I've always been of that view. I said at the start of the season that if Phil built an attack on the service of the obviously talented, Otzumer it could shape our way forward but that also if he didn't we'd struggle. Every selection is weighed on defensive criteria. Murphy vanished after a defensive flop early on. Oztumer has carried the can for the Hull capitulation. Magennis is good and threatening facing goal and in receipt of service a threat. Donaldson is ok back to goal but offers no threat. Who is preferred? Buckley carries a threat moving forward especially from inside forward so he's stuck out wide on his wrong foot and forced to backtrack. I could go on. If we had Billy Sharp much as Le Fondre, Clough and Armstrong he would have been a bench player and only have the odd goal because we just don't prioritise that sort of forward and seldom two up. Overall if individuals in our squad have strengths as often as not they lie in forward movement. Phil puts his faith in backward movement as practised by Lowe. So the pace of Wildschut was not deployed centrally, Noone was wasted on the right and latterly with Ameobi has really operated on the edges of a five man defensively oriented midfield five. I could go on . I do think Phil has shown strengths of defensive organisation but his attacking acumen seems modest and a much more obvious cause of our league position than anything Ken has done. Ken and the criticism of him has distracted attention from the more obviius cause of our on field malaise ie the under prioritisation of attack by our manager. After the Hull game, or maybe during it, i said thats Oz the scapegoat wont see him again. How transparent is Parky that this is true and he doesnt get on the bench when were the least creative club in the country. What does that do to a player to know youve been scapegoated that way. And what message to our "flair" players. If you try something new and it fails youre exiled.
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