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Post by Alptrotter on Jan 22, 2019 7:32:09 GMT
Couldn’t be bothered writing anything last night after watching another dismal game. The atmosphere seemed flat, despite token protests, and that certainly communicated itself to me . It was a real effort not to switch off. God knows how you people who go can stand it.
I felt we were initially bullied out of the game by a far stronger and physically robust and committed Albion. We have too many players who are too easily bested in 50/50 situations: Taylor, Olkowski, Beevers, Hobbs, Murphy, Noone, Donaldson .. I could go on. Lowe is our only tackler and he is a stupid foul waiting to happen. The team, like the fans, look deflated and defeated. They are sliding towards the trap door and without some change, League One is inevitable. I thought the lad who came on near the end looked good. I really hope Parky bloods some youngsters in the Cup ( on tv here on Friday!) If we lose, thats expected. If they play well, it’s food for thought.
Albion, as everyone has said, were very poor, but we were dispirited, feeble and without any sort of fight. A bit like Parky.
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Post by thegrud1 on Jan 22, 2019 8:33:23 GMT
Some of you guys say you dont have a problem with Anderson....UNBELIEVABLE
So you wouldnt have a problem working for him...you happy with his PR
You like being blamed for the clubs lack of finannces
You happy we seem to have a winding up order every other week
You OK with him banning Marc Isles Mcginlay
GET REAL PLEASE!
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Post by bonaparte on Jan 22, 2019 8:53:09 GMT
Couldn't work myself up to comment on a frenetic error strewn schoolboyish match last night.
No outstanding player for me, except youngster, 4s all round.
Usual 2 for manager selection and tactics.
Only change was percentage up by running around more, but headless chickens came to mind.
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Post by one2many on Jan 22, 2019 9:10:15 GMT
Does anyone else share this feeling of "don't care any more?" I sadly now always expect to lose and could write the after match report before the match, it just never changes. Negative, overly defensive starting line up, skilful players ignored, one up top with no support again and inept and pointless like for like substitutions which never affect the game positively. I suppose he at least played Nooney on the left for once but give him two strikers to aim at for goodness sake. The protest tonight was against the wrong target for me, it should surely have been Parkinson who felt the brunt not Anderson. As long as this man stays here nothing will change and we're guaranteed to go down. You sum up my feelings. Can't decide if it is apathy or just being realistic. |
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Post by davidm on Jan 22, 2019 9:31:34 GMT
It’s hard to say much about the match.
We ran about a lot. West Brom played very poorly but were still distinctly better than us. Once we conceded, we all knew it was another defeat because that is what happens.
What a strange line-up. We had Donaldson up front on his own with O’Neill as the back up striker. Two goals between them all season. Two wingers who played so deep they were almost additional full backs and then a workmanlike midfield who have little or no skill or flair amongst them.
Where is Oztumer?
We competed reasonably early on. O’Neill had a header just wide but then we revert to midfielders/defenders just hoofing the ball forward to an isolated Donaldson who was hopeless.
I have reached the stage where I don’t care if the players work hard – I just want to see some skill and some positive approach to the game not just hoofing.
West Brom, strangely, were poor. Poor passing, lack of drive but still we couldn’t touch them.
Defensively, we stood off too much. Gayle had acres of room to get the ball and run at us. West Brom, by the way, played 3 strikers. Not 1, not 2 but 3.
We eventually succumbed when Lowe gave away a stupid free kick 25 yards out and our defence slept as Dawson, who we all know can head a ball, out jumped us to head across goal for an easy head in. Absolutely shocking defending.
We had one near miss when Ameobi made his one and only contribution to the game with a snap shot which their keeper tipped over easily.
Gayle hit the bar with a free kick and the half drifted to a close. The manager thinks we were the best team. I thought West Brom were happy enough to stroll around knowing they had us.
Second half, West Brom were happy enough knowing we wouldn’t score. Lowe managed an effort on target which, again, their keeper easily tipped over.
One comment on the game in general was that our dead balls, free kicks and corners, were appalling. Either hitting the first man or being easily headed clear. I think the only header we won was in the last minute when Magennis got a header from a corner. He should have scored.
Anyway the second half drifted along. West Brom allowed us to pressure them but there was little danger. Then we went to sleep. A simple looking ball into the area completely baffled Hobbs who missed it. I thought Alnwick was slow to respond and their guy just slipped it in.
Overall, another very average performance. Lots of running around but no skill. There is discernable match tactic other than to play one man up front, defend like mad and hope to grab something.
We are doomed to relegation.
The manager should have gone months ago.
I am so dispirited at each match. I wish I had the bottle not to attend but it’s in my blood and so I will be there for a decisive match next Tuesday.
Marks
Alnwick - 4 I haven’t seen any replays yet but looked terribly slow getting out and down for the 2nd goal. As usual, hopeless distribution.
Olkowski - 4 He is now too slow defensively and his crossing is terrible. Credit to him for getting forward but you can’t hit the first man with the ball on every centre.
Hobbs - 3 Looked hopelessly out of touch, Where was he on the first goal. So slow on the 2nd.
Beevers - 4 Looked uneasy without Wheater alongside him.
Taylor - 3 Much too slow for this league. Cannot get forward enough.
Lowe - 3 Praised a few weeks ago for playing full back. Immediately switched into midfield and just useless. Badly at fault for stupid foul leading up to first gaol.
O’Neill - 5 Played as the second striker role – amazing decision. Probably our best player on the night but never a striker.
Murphy - 4 Involved but couldn’t dominate West Brom’s midfield.
Noone - 4 Played in the correct position but couldn’t get the ball into the box enough.
Ameobi - 3 Where was he? One snap shot in first half and that was it. Played more as an additional full back.
Donaldson - 2 Just couldn’t hold the ball up. The ball bounced off him constantly. West Brom’s defence were too strong for him. Spent much too much time on the floor.
Pritchard - 5 A few minutes only but he controlled the ball, he ran with the ball and found white shirts with his passes.
Magennis - 2 Usual headless chicken performance. Should have scored with a point blank header from a corner late on.
Buckley - 2 One header late on but that was it.
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Post by kenglowhite on Jan 22, 2019 10:04:35 GMT
Some of you guys say you dont have a problem with Anderson....UNBELIEVABLE So you wouldnt have a problem working for him...you happy with his PR You like being blamed for the clubs lack of finannces You happy we seem to have a winding up order every other week You OK with him banning Marc Isles Mcginlay GET REAL PLEASE! |
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Post by kenglowhite on Jan 22, 2019 10:06:17 GMT
Shall we just settle for Parkinson is the greater problem at this point in time
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Post by davidm on Jan 22, 2019 10:46:16 GMT
Shall we just settle for Parkinson is the greater problem at this point in time
Yes, Anderson is a disgrace - dragging our name through the mud and, very probably, screwing us financially BUT what happens on the pitch is appalling.
We have a manager who sets out in every match not to lose. Never to win. A manager who plays one striker. Who ignores flair players.
He is the reason that the heart of the club is being drained away.
We have reached the stage where the fans are so worned down by his tactics that we cannot even comment during the game. The empty seats all around us are not due to Anderson's disgraceful behaviour but they are due to Parkinson's awful, awful tactics. He is killing us.
We all wish that Anderson would go but he cannot until we have a replacement investor. Be careful what we wish for here - the next one could be worse.
BUT
we can replace the manager.
If we cannot afford to sack him, put him on gardening leave along with his assitant and get some flair/skill into our side. |
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Post by greydad on Jan 22, 2019 11:27:15 GMT
No point in commenting on the overall performance other than 'same old same old'...Pritchard's 10 minutes were the one positive, I can only reiterate my frustration re:the lack of opportunities he and his devpt. squad teammates have had thus far. The management and utilising of overall playing resources is, and has been for too long, simplynot good enough.
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Post by OohMac on Jan 22, 2019 15:56:57 GMT
Interesting comment from co commentater. "Darren Moore told me he couldnt believe the talent available on free transfers this summer"
Yet Parky and the park apologist will say weve spent nothing so shouldnt expect anything.
Speaking of Darren Moore. Wheres his years of experience? Wheres his medals and why are fans so certain that David Lee couldnt step up?
I worry now that Ken cannot take action as it would just be seen as diverting the blame, would make a martyr of PP and Marc Iles could wrote his opinion pieces on how Parky performed "miracles".
Get your thinking Grud but if we aimed some of that anger at Parkys door it might make him question himself and Ken knows that a decision would be backed by majority.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jan 22, 2019 15:57:13 GMT
The problem should lie fairly and squarely at the door of this first class cockney reject wideboy parasite Kenneth Anderson for continuing with this delusional one dimentional, ignorant, clueless, hoofball ejit Phillip Parkinson
Had the wideboy welk not backed his comments all them weeks ago whereby he said he would do everything in his power to turn our fortunes around blah blah blah, so yes, it’s your fault Kenneth.
As for Phillip Parkhoofson, any non Bolton fans would have been given the greatest insight to his lack of managerial nous by simply watching THAT awful pile of shit last night
Truly fkn dreadful😞😡😞😡😞😡
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Post by kenglowhite on Jan 22, 2019 16:05:41 GMT
They are juat as "same old" as the comments about Anderson, who nevertheless is performing a miracle, by hook or by crook keeping the club in business, albeit with many downsides for its image.
When we were getting out of League One at the first attempt no-one murmured many of these these things about Anderson, though there were the same underlying problems. We all feel shame about financial difficulties.These are not personal but many rightly feel them as it's "our" club. It ia definitely Parkinson who is emptying the stadium with last night's selections a prime example.
The number of signings that Parkinson has been allowed to make during KA's tenure are evidence of Anderson's goodwill for the club and its fans. The trouble is Parkinson keeps signing the wrong people or, at least, deploying them excruciatingly badly.
As an example we nearly signed the out-of-contract McGoldrick from Ipswich, who eventually signed for Sheffield United. To make way for him United offloaded Donaldson. now well past his best, to us, and while Donaldson works hard but struggles when played up front (remember PP has played him on the wing !) McGoldrick is scoring for the Bramhall Lane club.
No wonder season ticket holders like myself are staying at home out of the cold and watching games on the Red Button, if available, and will continue to do until a more dynamic manager is installed.
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Post by thegrud1 on Jan 22, 2019 17:52:59 GMT
Something to think about
If we get rid of Anderson whoever comes in will certainly get rid of Parkinson.
If we get rid of Parkinson...WE STILL GOT ANDERSON !
The club is rotting from the top....thats where to start
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Post by kenglowhite on Jan 22, 2019 19:14:47 GMT
There is nobody coming in, so meantime we must rid ourselves of Parkinson in the interest of true football supporters.
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Post by OohMac on Jan 22, 2019 22:04:53 GMT
I think most of the heat on Ken is self inflicted by this constant defensive everythings rosie attitude.
Im amazed Ken hasnt said to Parky "youre done, theres your months wage and if you want anymore i suggest you go to the LMA and maybe in 8 months time you can have a day in court" seems to be his way with anyone else.
Im comvinced had David Lee or Julian Darby been in the dugout for Walsall it would be 8000 and not 4000 home fans.
If we could keep those 4000 fans thats an extra income that could more than settle Parkys money.
Said before we need to cap over 30 playerd to 3 in a team, 5 in a squad. At least 2 home grown players in the team. We also need to stop the journeyman signings. Dyer, Grounds, Wilson, Oneil, Murphy, Lowe, Donaldson, Buckley. Could do without all these. Im guessing thats 40k a week minimum. When you add win bonuses thats 40k a week!
Whole philosophy needs to change but ken has no long term plans and Parky is clearly only thinking about Parky. Happy to lose 1-0 as it looks close. Happy to resign 35 year olds even though they will be gone in May. Happy for the next guy to walk in with 15 youth players with 10 mins playing time between them. Probably starting next season with a 12 point deduction too.
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