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Jan 5, 2019 15:54:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 15:54:56 GMT
Well how fxcking shxt are we I'm listening on tower fm and we are being totally outplayed by a footballing side yet again never mind we can start in the first round next season. Still always the second half to look forward sorry 63 I hope it gets better for you COYWM
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Jan 5, 2019 15:57:33 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 15:57:33 GMT
Ps 63 Hucknall are winning 2-0 in a top of the table clash and some great football being played from both teams hahaha COYWM
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 16:05:59 GMT
Ps 63 Hucknall are winning 2-0 in a top of the table clash and some great football being played from both teams hahaha COYWM Stop baiting him chip, it'll put him off his half time pie, if the game and hasn't done already!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 16:20:44 GMT
Bet whites fell off his chair when Donaldson scored. PP will regard this as a bit of tactical genius after he came on as a sub.
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Jan 5, 2019 16:47:44 GMT
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Post by OohMac on Jan 5, 2019 16:47:44 GMT
I knew what I was doing!
Bodes well for next season.
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Jan 5, 2019 17:00:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 17:00:47 GMT
5-2 hope you're happy clappers enjoy today but most of all 63 enjoy the day mate and Hucknall won 3-1 so good day all round COYWM Ps congratulations Parky and team but it doesn't make up for the 6-0 drubbing by Hull hahahaha
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Post by andyl on Jan 5, 2019 17:12:03 GMT
Let's start with the second half. Four assists for Noone playing on the left for three. A strong hat-trick for Magennis. A goal and a contribution for Donaldson even albeit after a hesitant opening. Buckley and Donaldson had not seen inspired the somnolent crowd but somehow we got on top
The key to it all was Murphy who had a near faultless game, tacking strongly, linking really well with No one, comfortable on both feet and above all driving forward at every opportunity. He it was who had our two first half efforts of note after Wildschutt had made a bright speedy start before injury.
in that first half Vela was awful. After squandering a chance he made three successive errors the last of which led to Walsall's lead but neither Beevers nor Alnwick impressed.
We were open in the second half. They threatened regularly hit a post and got one back with a double deflection.
But against the dreadful context of potential administration we got a good uplift. At this level our strikers can threaten and score!
Alnwick 6 Olkowski 6 Wheater 7 Beevers 5 Grounds 4 Vela 3 Lowe 5 Murphy 9 No one 8. Magennis 8 Wildschutt 5 Donaldson 6 Buckey 6
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Post by Alptrotter on Jan 5, 2019 17:16:29 GMT
No video stream on ifollow today, just the appalling Tower commentary. So, I won’t comment beyond the general observation that a team can only beat what is put in front of them and wanderers, after a scare, duly obliged. I hope the result helps to restore confidence to Magennis and Donaldson. It could be that we are without Doidge for some time after the shennanigans this week.
I look forward to the comments of those forum members among the heroic 4000 wanderers fans who, like my daughter, actually bothered to turn up!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Jan 5, 2019 17:43:03 GMT
Let's start with the second half. Four assists for Noone playing on the left for three. A strong hat-trick for Magennis. A goal and a contribution for Donaldson even albeit after a hesitant opening. Buckley and Donaldson had not seen inspired the somnolent crowd but somehow we got on top The key to it all was Murphy who had a near faultless game, tacking strongly, linking really well with No one, comfortable on both feet and above all driving forward at every opportunity. He it was who had our two first half efforts of note after Wildschutt had made a bright speedy start before injury. in that first half Vela was awful. After squandering a chance he made three successive errors the last of which led to Walsall's lead but neither Beevers nor Alnwick impressed. We were open in the second half. They threatened regularly hit a post and got one back with a double deflection. But against the dreadful context of potential administration we got a good uplift. At this level our strikers can threaten and score! Alnwick 6 Olkowski 6 Wheater 7 Beevers 5 Grounds 4 Vela 3 Lowe 5 Murphy 9 No one 8. Magennis 8 Wildschutt 5 Donaldson 6 Buckey 6 So what your really saying Andy is, we looked well geared up for our imminent arrival in League One🤔 if of course, we don’t drop into League Administration first!!
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 5, 2019 17:47:28 GMT
Hi all, well I’m currently sat recovering in M&S after the real proverbial game of two halves. The first half was as bad as I’ve seen, totally outplayed by a willing, passing third division team. I was absolutely furious to see the same old faces with no attempt to shake it up. At half time I agreed with those sat next to me was a complete waste of a fiver.
Boiling already, when the second half substitutions were made with the same old weary faces I genuinely thought about walking out. How glad I didn’t because I would have missed one of the best centre forward displays for many a year from Magennis assisted entirely by a brilliant example of wing play from Nooney, on his proper left side were almost indefensible. Why oh why have we not seen him in this position? Aided by a genuinely impressive support role from Donaldson for once it has to be said to prove the two up front does work if the service is right. Talking about service, the midfield contribution from Murphy was exemplary, cool in possession, intelligent forward passes and genuine quality on the ball. If he had a more expansive partner than Lowe, who was slow and cumbersome, we really would have the makings of a good side. Apart from those mention also for Olkiovski and Wheater who contributed well.
I accept this was only Walsall but I saw enough today to finally lay any assertions that this squad isn’t good enough to keep us up. It’s down to Parky now to make it work.
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Post by greydad on Jan 5, 2019 18:03:17 GMT
Totally forgettable first half, totally surprising second....Magennis and Noone will rightly get plaudits but it was Murphy who really made the difference, without his contribution I'm not sure Noone would have received the balls necessary to send in those excellent crosses. Where has Murphy been, why has Noone not been played on the left, and why not start with 2 up front against opposition from a lower division? That said, Parky made the changes at half time and the team responded positively, so credit where it's due...let's hope for something positive off the field and that some impetus might develop in the league. Felt good to walk back to my car smiling and looking forward to the 4th round draw!
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Post by andyl on Jan 5, 2019 19:09:10 GMT
I'd just add as one often critical of Phil that in making two subs at halftime and then quickly switching Noone and Buckley he made all the difference enabling us to target their visibly weak right back whom Yanik had been getting past at will
That's why I find Phil so frustrating. A professional football manager should be tactically superior to any of us and sometimes, as today in the second half, he really was . I still think there was scope to bring Otztumer on. But if Murphy can be consistent- and we easily forget that he was good at WBA- we may at last have a path to some creativity.
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Post by davidm on Jan 5, 2019 19:22:06 GMT
The proverbial “game of 2 halves”.
Absolutely appalling for the first 45 mins and then real aggressive 4-2-4 attacking in the second half.
The major plus which I hope has sunk in to the manager is that we played so much better with 2 men upfront and also playing the wingers on the correct side. Noone on the left contributed incredibly in the 2nd half.
The manager reverted to his preferred 1 upfront and 2 wingers (as usual on the wrong side) and 3 “solid” slow midfielders. Oztumer only on the bench!
We were dreadful for the first 45 minutes. Just endless hoofball to Magennis who could not hold the ball up.
John McGinlay made a comment on the radio in that we always start off afraid of the opposition and give them possession. This applied today against a League 1 side.
Walsall took control of the game easily and just collected our hoofs and dominated.
We had no control whatsoever of the ball and when Vela lost the ball for the 3rd time in 2 minutes, Walsall broke down the left, put a centre in and Beevers was beaten in the air by the centre forward. A really poor goal.
Walsall should have had another when 2 players broke the offside trap only to take too long and we cleared.
Overall an awful first half performance. I wanted to go home.
Marks – 1st Half
Alnwick - 5
Olkowski - 4
Wheater - 4
Beevers - 4
Grounds - 3
Lowe - 4
Vela - 2
Murphy - 4
Noone - 3
Wildschut - 3
Magennis - 3
Second half we made 2 changes. Vela unsurprisingly as he was dreadful and Wildschut who was apparently injured.
Donaldson and Buckley came on which made it 2 up front and Noone went over to the left.
This shape together with some ingenuity and speed of thought worked well and eventually won us the match.
We had obviously had a rollicking at half time as we were much more aggressive. Murphy, in particular, changed the flow of the game with 2 early crunching tackles.
We won a corner on the right. Buckley went to take it but Noone also went over and, instead of waiting for our defenders to get up, took a very short corner which caught Walsall’s defence asleep for Noone to wriggle into the box and send a ball across which, after a few rebounds, came to Donaldson to flick into the corner. Credit Buckley and Noone for the speed of the corner.
We attacked again immediately and Noone, now on the left, whipped a centre in quickly (no messing about getting the ball onto his left foot) for Donaldson to head on. The goalie got a hand to it but Magennis was quickest to the loose ball and put us ahead.
Could we continue? Yes we could. Yet again, Noone put another great cross in from the left. Donaldson and their defenders went for it. I think it was an own goal but Donaldson celebrated.
We were well ahead but still very average defensively and Walsall got a goal back when an unmarked player (a la Hull) was given all the space to shoot. It was wickedly deflected to put them back into the game.
Buckley, who still weak, managed to hit the post with a trickler which beat the goalie.
Our defence was all over the show and you could us conceding again but again a bit of quick thinking got us another. We won a free kick on the left and Grounds quickly fed Noone who put a beautiful centre in for Magennis to head in. Again – quick thinking and a winger on his correct side.
Walsall were still capable of scoring and then hit the bar but we eventually broke for Magennis to shoot left foot and hit the post but was alive enough to slot the rebound home.
An amazing score and applause at the end.
Marks – 2nd Half
Alnwick - 6 No fault for the goals but, as always very slow, very wayward distribution. One excellent throw out in the first half but the rest was just anywhere kicking.
Olkowski - 4 Wide open in the second half. He has lost all his early season promise.
Wheater - 5 A real struggle. Some terrible headers and mis-kicks.
Beevers - 5 How was he beaten in the air for the first goal?
Grounds - 5 Tended to hit the ball into the nearest opponent but improved in the second half.
Lowe - 6 Still much too much backwards passing.
Vela - Subbed at half-time and it was deserved! Some really poor passing/ball control. Rank bad control started the move for Walsall’s first goal.
Murphy - 8 He made 2 awesome crunching tackles at the start of the second half which changed the whole momentum of the game.
Noone - 9 Incredible 2nd half – when played on the left. First half was useless endlessly trying to cut in onto his left.
Wildschut - Very average. Apparently injured.
Donaldson - 8 Very busy and aware of half chances.
Magennis - 8 3 goals helped by having a partner. Well taken goals.
Buckley - 6 Still powder puff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2019 19:41:18 GMT
Ah your all easily pleased one win against the mighty Walsall and now where the dog's bollocks hahaha I'm only joking I will be having a few beers tonight enjoy one and all COYWM
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Post by whitesince63 on Jan 5, 2019 21:08:38 GMT
Ah your all easily pleased one win against the mighty Walsall and now where the dog's bollocks hahaha I'm only joking I will be having a few beers tonight enjoy one and all COYWM Well worth the beers tonight Chip and for the first time since Parky came here I actually left the ground satisfied, our second half really was that good. However, I don't want to appear churlish when I say that this second half turnaround was little to do with any master stroke by Parky as eluded to by others, just another lucky break that had a positive outturn. If Wildschut had not been injured then the substitution, other than probably Vela, would not have been made with the probability that the second half would have continued as the first. I see it as pretty much the same as our performance at Bramhall Lane last year with forced changes, which he immediately switched back from. After half time Donaldson went to the right wing and for ten minutes was as awful as usual. He then moved inside and Buckley went wide. Nooney moved to the left and immediately, prompted by Murphy, the thing clicked and the rest is as reported by all. It will be interesting now to see how Parky reacts. I'd like to think he learned something today but history tells me he won't and will just return to normal mode with one up top and wingers on the wrong side. i hope not because Mags and Donaldson really looked a partnership if they get the right service and Nooney looked different class on the left. In fact I believe if Wildschut was played on the right he too could be just as effective. Today convinced me yet again that with the right formation this team could easily compete at this level but unfortunately I just don't think our manager can. We'll see won't we?
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