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Post by thegrud1 on Dec 30, 2018 11:36:14 GMT
Any keeper who makes an outstanding save which gets us a point + a clean sheet surely is worth at least a 5
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Post by andyl on Dec 31, 2018 11:57:07 GMT
Re goalkeepers a good start point in assessing performance is arguably that they are there to make saves. I'm not sure which good save Alnwick was credited with( Maclean's header) maybe, but I saw nothing remarkable.
A second element is the confidence they inspire. In that first half there were several examples of 'is he coming or is he not' and also just staying back on catchable crosses. This was less true in the second half and he did get one good punch in at a vital time but I wonder how many of us felt relief ratger than expectation.
I have little to add re distribution. Yes Parky may be asking him to play it carefully early on and yes everyone turned their backs every time he got the ball and yes he rolled a couple out in the second half. But what sort of keeper is he. Has he no confidence in defenders. Can he not speak to them? Time and time when we get a goalkick or the ball runs to him the action stops wbikst he kicks with the deliberation of one attempting a conversion or penalty at Rugby. Outfield players trot into possession and 90% of the time possession is lost and counter movement starts. This was true before the eras of Valdes, Edison, Lloris, Pickford, Allison etc and a complaint against all our keepers back to Jussi. But with Alnwick it is extreme. On Saturday right atthe death we had a glorious opportunity for Sammy Ameobi to break away and perhaps win the game. Alnwick hesitated- he always does- and was impeded..but he had the chance of a quick release.
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Post by andyl on Dec 31, 2018 12:06:06 GMT
Re goalkeepers a good start point in assessing performance is arguably that they are there to make saves. I'm not sure which good save Alnwick was credited with( Maclean's header) maybe, but I saw nothing remarkable. A second element is the confidence they inspire. In that first half there were several examples of 'is he coming or is he not' and also just staying back on catchable crosses. This was less true in the second half and he did get one good punch in at a vital time but I wonder how many of us felt relief ratger than expectation. I have little to add re distribution. Yes Parky may be asking him to play it carefully early on and yes everyone turned their backs every time he got the ball and yes he rolled a couple out in the second half. But what sort of keeper is he. Has he no confidence in defenders. Can he not speak to them? Time and time when we get a goalkick or the ball runs to him the action stops wbikst he kicks with the deliberation of one attempting a conversion or penalty at Rugby. Outfield players trot into possession and 90% of the time possession is lost and counter movement starts. This was true before the eras of Valdes, Edison, Lloris, Pickford, Allison etc and a complaint against all our keepers back to Jussi. But with Alnwick it is extreme. On Saturday right atthe death we had a glorious opportunity for Sammy Ameobi to break away and perhaps win the game. Alnwick hesitated- he always does- and was impeded..but he had the chance of a quick release. I seem not to be able to edit so apologies re the typos. However my point is that he is routinely hampering progress and in this making opponents' running a lot less. Butland is a good keeper and despite Vela and Doidge being at the defence's heels all afternoon carried on just saving and passing to his teammates. If it is Phil and if he is acting under orders I would not be surprised but I hate it. And Matthews was quite different . How come?
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Post by bonaparte on Jan 1, 2019 2:38:26 GMT
I agree Andy, but all the teams distribution, from goalkeeper, centre backs and throw ins usually gives the ball to the opposition. There is a pattern, which must be down to training, or lack of it. The hoof ball strategy set out by PP negates the midfield, and denies the opportunity of playing out from the back. Yes he is not good at this, but denied by the system, so earns in my opinion some mitigation.
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