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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 17:28:15 GMT
1 swallow doesn't make a summer or winter but it's baby steps listening to tower Fm and it sounded poor again but I will wait for a report from somebody who was at the game. According to stats we had 47% possession but we have won 2-1 so I will take that for now. COYWM
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Post by Alptrotter on Dec 26, 2018 18:18:41 GMT
I must confess to being underwhelmed by Parky’s selection. The idea that Oztumer might have to be protected from rough house treatment from Rotherham is laughable. Why wasn’t he in the starting eleven, wheras the dreadful Wilson and increasingly feeble Williams were? Williams sadly is another Olkowski who has declined sharply under the dead hand of Parky. Also, what on earth has Little done to be overlooked at right back in favour of Lowe ( he didn’t do that badly, but is not a full back in the modern game).
Those gripes aside, a typically listless and passive start by wanderers set the tone for a drab opening thirty minutes. Then , in less than five minutes we saw the good ( a neat cross shot into the corner to give us the lead) and the bad ( an idiotic free kick from which they pegged us back) of ameobi. The midfield showed little fight, were pushed off the ball too easily, the defence looked anxious and the attack was non existent. in fact, we went to pot for the rest of the half and went in derservedly not ahead.
The second half was a battle of attrition between two teams with little skill and even less creativity and imagination. Thankfully it was O’Neil who snatched the winner. A much needed three points, but if Parky claims this is a new dawn, he’s deluding himself. We played much as we have donein many of the narrow defeats. this time we scraped a couple of goals and just held out.Phew! But confidence in Parky has certainly not flooded back to me.
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Post by thegrud1 on Dec 26, 2018 18:43:08 GMT
For their goal from a free kick..looked like zonal marking ......WTF 1st time this season we played 90 mins with two up top !
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Post by davidm on Dec 26, 2018 19:12:51 GMT
Hallelujah! A win at last.
Full of effort but, like the old grump that I am, I have to say that it was because we played a very poor side in Rotherham.
I can’t see us beating Stoke if we play like that.
The majority of the game – from both teams – was hoofball football with very little quality football on display.
The manager made his usual changes but we lined up as a 4-4-2. Doidge and Donaldson were upfront; although Doidge had to drop back when Rotherham had the ball. We thankfully left out our 2 ineffective wingers and had Ameobi on the left – at last – while O’Neill was played on the right but a bit deeper.
Olkowski was dropped and Lowe played right back with Wilson in defensive midfield.
And, of course, NO OZTUMER – I DESPAIR!
The first half was poor quality from both sides. Because of the hoofball and the poorish quality of both defences, the ball did get into both areas a bit.
Rotherham’s 2 strikers knocked Beevers and Wheater (and Alnwick on one occasion) about which was strange when you consider that one of them was Jamie Proctor. Wheater and Beevers were definitely uncomfortable early on.
There were no major chances until just after half an hour when the ball broke in midfield and O’Neill played one of the few decent passes of the match to put Ameobi in on the left of the area to score with a good shot.
Ahead 1-0 – were we going to win? Wait though we are Bolton Wanderers and Ameobi obliged by giving a needless free kick away down by the corner.
We had all 11 players back but the ball came in for a simple header to float into the corner of the net. Poor poor defending. I know I am old fashioned but if we had had a player covering the post it would have been a simple clearance.
It was just hoofball between the 2 teams for the rest of the half
Second half we pressed but again with hardly any control of the ball – just launching it and Alnwick also made a fine save when Rotherham got through us.
Defensively we had to block a lot of shots/scrambles but we then would lose the ball through a hoof out of defence.
On one occurrence Alnwick caught the ball and rolled it out to Williams followed by 2 decent passes and we were on the edge of their area without a hoof in sight but it was a one-off event and we reverted to type.
At around the hour mark, we suddenly had a spell of pressure with Williams having a shot blocked and the effort rising a bit and then suddenly the ball broke for us on the left for it to be drilled across the 6 yard box but no one could get a boot to it but O’Neill, on the right of the area, calmly controlled it on his left, turned onto his right and fired into the far corner. A very neat finish.
We couldn’t get a 3rd to settle the nerves. Rotherham bombarded the area but some sterling blocking and heading held firm.
Just about a deserved win but I must stress that Rotherham were poor.
So 3 points at last and let’s hope for a confidence boost. I have to say, though, that we produced some of the poorest passing you could ever see and probably the most hoofs in any match. Passes went behind men or well away from them. But we scored 2 goals from open play so let’s be happy
Alnwick - 7 A couple of decent saves – one in particular in the second half. In addition, a couple of dreadful flaps plus the usual poor kicking.
Lowe - 7 Much better than when he plays defensive midfield. A lot of hoofs but also some solidity.
Wheater - 6 Like Bambi on ice for the first 20 minutes when their giant centre forward knocked both him and Beevers about. Some good blocking.
Beevers - 6 Had a difficult centre forward to handle but did some solid desperate defensive work.
Taylor - 6 He always seems so casual and slow. Each throw in he takes seems to take half a minute.
Wilson - 5 His first 4 passes went straight to opposition shirts but also did some decent desperate defending. His main ball out of defence though was a hoof.
Williams - 6 Stupidly booked but worked really hard. His passing needs to improve significantly.
O’Neill - 8 Surprising played right midfield and did well. Put the pass in to get Ameobi through for the first goal and took his chance well.
Ameobi - 6 Took his goal very well and put in some good bits of trickery but gave a needless free kick away for their goal and late in the game gave the ball away a couple of times needlessly.
Doidge - 5 Still struggling with the physical side of the game which is a pity because somewhere in him is a football brain. He is our best hope of a goal sniffer.
Donaldson - 5 Worked hard but was knocked about by a physical defence and struggled to hold the ball up.
Magennis - 6 Charged around as usual and blasted a free kick through the wall to get a good save.
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Post by greydad on Dec 26, 2018 19:13:29 GMT
Two poor teams playing poor football, it looked at times as though it would be a case of which team would make the biggest mistake rather than create the best chances....had Proctor been sharper he would surely have punished Wheater's poor attempt to head clear in the first half. The pragmatic midfield struggled to create any progressice passing moves and I remain baffled by the absence of Oztumer in particular...Vela surely offers more than Wilson in midfield too. Ameobi showed his prowess in front of goal, a creative player behind him might well unlock more chances for him. Donaldson ran and chased to little avail but did good work on the left to set up the opportunity for O'Neill's winner..I agree with David M's assessment of his performance. I would still rather see Ameobi playing off Doidge or whoever, but at least the winless run has ended, although the likes of Tom Ince, Berahino, Joe Allen and even Crouch might better exploit the Whites' profligacy with the ball that was again in evidence today. A win is a win, but whether Parky will be capable of using it as a springboard for improvement remains to be seen...I hope so.
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 26, 2018 20:39:33 GMT
Well it sounds as though the only thing that improved today was the score so we'll just have to take that because boy did we need it. I fully expect us to be back to one up top for the game against Stoke with 8 defensive players and wrong footed wingers with no ambition to win the game, just try no to lose. The problem is that we desperately need wins now to get us out of the bottom three. Like others said, it was again disappointing not to see Oz and Vela in the team. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see both leave next month as they clearly don't fit Parkinson's Neanderthal systems. Obviously the downside of the win is that we keep Parkinson but to be honest he's a dead man walking when the club ownership changes so we are stuck with him until then however results go. At least we got the points so let's hope for a surprise and 3 more against Stoke despite my serious doubts.
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 27, 2018 14:05:23 GMT
Sorry to be so negative but for me, every win Parkinson scabs, it sets off another 10 game stay of execution. I’m only stunned that 15k+ fans bothered to turn up to watch the 2 ‘nailed on’ relegation teams battle it out!! I guess it’s just a ‘Boxing Day’ loyalty that’s stuck with our fans! Good on them but rather them than me at this juncture as I’m firmly in the W63 camp of staying away until Ken and Phil have both pissed off. Something strangely tells me that we’ll beat Stoke, why am I even saying that??🤔🤔
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Post by bonaparte on Dec 27, 2018 15:49:59 GMT
The thing about football attendances is I believe that they count season ticket holders and others even if the do not go. Should be re-titled tickets sold to be really truthful, then attendance really means people through the door. Not likely as would demonstrate unpopularity.
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Post by OohMac on Dec 27, 2018 16:06:34 GMT
The thing about football attendances is I believe that they count season ticket holders and others even if the do not go. Should be re-titled tickets sold to be really truthful, then attendance really means people through the door. Not likely as would demonstrate unpopularity. If theyre counting those season tickets then its a poor show of one the day fans but cant blame them. Given the start of the season, we played poorly and picked up points so I dont see why we cannot beat stoke even playing in the same vain.
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Post by westandlower on Dec 27, 2018 22:50:32 GMT
I anticipated a draw, so the extra 2 points is a bonus. Like some others, I am a season ticket holder but didn't go to the game. I want to see entertaining football - passing, movement, shots, crosses and not the mind numbing defensive hoof ball that is served up every week. I've had enough. I've written off the cost of my season ticket. It's too depressing to go to the game but I was starting to consider going to the Stoke game, but having read the feedback above, I think I'll stay away again. I went to the away game at Stoke, we got stuffed there and we'll get stuffed again on Saturday.
Although in different leagues, Wimbledon's manager (Neal Ardley) decided to walk away a few weeks back after a bad run similar to but not quite as bad as ours and Franky Bunn just got sacked with a better record than Parky. If Parky is to be sacked, it should have been a few weeks back to give time to find a new manager and let him assess the team and do some wheeler dealing. Sadly, I can't see anything but relegation and mind numbing hoof ball for the remainder. If only Parky had a conscience like Ardley....
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 27, 2018 23:17:35 GMT
Sadly Westy, Parky's going nowhere while Anderson's in charge. We know he can't afford to sack Parky and would never find another more obedient lap dog to replace him with. It's all about finding a new owner but at the price reputed to be asked we've got no chance of it happening. It really is a sad state but given Parky's stubbornness there is zero chance of him walking I'm afraid. Like you I was hoping Parky would have made way for a better manager who could have assessed the squad in time for the January window but that's pretty much gone out of the window now. It's going to be a long hard winter I'm afraid.
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Post by OohMac on Dec 28, 2018 8:51:16 GMT
I get the sense from BN reports today that PP is back in full pomp. Proud a peacock knowing his brilliant football mind is now unquestionable. After another win.
Sort of reminds me of a pub quiz player who gets one right, most others no idea on, spends all night banging on about hiw he knew it.
Some of his comments today "sometimes we change the team, sometimes we keep it"
Whens that then?
Apparently when we signed Lowey(and beholdy-i do cringe at this adding Ys on to names. Grown man, meant to be a professional) anyway when we signed him in the summer loads of managers told Parky hes a solid midfielfer but an even better right back. Well come December 26th and well sharp as a pin Parky only throws him in at right back and the crowd go wild and PARKY wins the game!!
Also vindicated enough to tell us that Wildschut and Oz are just not good enough in the final 3rd to make a squad of 18.
Not with the likes of Nooney, Buckleyly and Donaldony all tearing it up.
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Post by thegrud1 on Dec 28, 2018 9:27:56 GMT
*******Sometimes we’ll make changes, sometimes we’ll go with the same team.***** when was the last time we kept the same team....the guy is DELUSIONAL !!!!!
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Post by riochforthereebok on Dec 29, 2018 16:01:47 GMT
Sam Ricketts ain’t doing too bad a job at Shrewsbury if you compare his record to Parkinsons, he might’ve a shout for the future
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 29, 2018 19:20:53 GMT
Sam Ricketts ain’t doing too bad a job at Shrewsbury if you compare his record to Parkinsons, he might’ve a shout for the future Yes ive noticed that rftr and he always struck me as a potential former manager. He has a certain style and intelligent air and I wish him all the best for his future and maybe even here at some time, though if Parky continues the way the boys played today he could yet get the supporters behind him.
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