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Post by OohMac on Nov 28, 2018 21:28:35 GMT
(Sorry another PP but this with an alternate view)
I think now Parky has support of about 5% of the fans and I'm wondering how much of those 95% would be won round if Parky just didn't talk rubbish non stop.
In this, what I can only describe as episode I'm having, I've thought of an alternative universe where Parky speaks the truth and wondered whether you and the likes of W63 would like/respect him more.
Q. Are you worried about lack of goals?
A. Yes and No. My game is all about us scoring 1 a game. Away from home against the top teams I don't care too much. So as long as we score once in the games with teams are round us that will be what I ask for. We've not done that in some games so yeah disappointed. But 1 goal against Wigan and I'm happy.
Q. Why don't you play more attacking?
A. Wouldn't suit. Game would be open and we'd end up losing by 3 goals and taking hidings. Why would we want that. Keeping it tight and we have a chance.
Q. Why not give young players a try?
A. Same reason. It's a risk and it's my job. I know my system will limit the other team and we can sometimes sucker punch a team.
Q. Are you worries about getting sacked?
A. Not really, I've got the toughest job in the League and am paid the least money. So any new manager wouldn't take this at the money I'm on. Ideally I'll stay here it's the biggest club I can get but I'll get a job in league one tomorrow and the pay will be about the same.
Q. Why did you sign so many older players?
A. We were a few weeks to start of season. We skimmed our squad by 12 players and with weeks ago We didn't get the players we thought. We needed to get numbers in. We took what we coukd.
Q. Why not play Doidge?
A. I play with a Madine player up front. Out of the 3 strikers I have Magennis is most like Madine, Donaldson second and Doidge is the least like him.
Q. Why sign him?
A. Not sure. Wanted Wyke. Didn't get him. Last day of loan market it was a case of Doidge or nothing. I have two strikers so need cover. Never signed for first team.
Q. Oz?
A. Not physical enough. No point in playing a playmaker.
Q. Can we survive?
A. Not sure if, we don't I think we will be among the favourites for next year. I've got a decent record in the league and am between L1 and maybe not too good for championship. So I pitch this club on the same path as my own.
Q. Where did we go wrong?
A. Sold Madine and didn't get any of the strikers I wanted.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 10:15:05 GMT
Oom, I wish that you would have made the title of this thread "deluded Parky". After reading his opinion of Tuesday's match in the BN, I think he really is deluded. The match was dire from start to finish. Two very poor teams who couldn't lift themselves out of a rut.
Here's an exert from the story: “Across the 90 minutes it wasn’t a disastrous performance where we got beat 5-0, or Ben has had to makes saves, or they’ve hit the bar or post – it wasn’t that type of game. We weren’t cut open. It was just a bad result and we’ll move on.”
I can see now why:
1. whites has decided not to go to games, along with thousands of others. It's dire football and all losses are a bad results, especially against teams as poor as Sheff W.
2. Certain members on here are conspicuous by their absence. There isn't much to say when there's negativity all round. That old adage: If you don't have anything good to say, say nothing at all, although it would bring the forum to its knees and it would be some time before it would be up and running again.
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Post by andyl on Nov 29, 2018 11:46:07 GMT
I suspect much of that is not far from what he thinks. Q2 response would have some logic behind it if the assessment was that our squad just isn't good enough.
A key question for me would be ' Why don't you bring in help to improve our attacking? Or as a variation? How do you rate yourself as an attacking coach and strategist?.
I suspect he thinks he's OK or that attack is down to individual players. But here the statistics do not lie?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 12:36:21 GMT
I suspect much of that is not far from what he thinks. Q2 response would have some logic behind it if the assessment was that our squad just isn't good enough. A key question for me would be ' Why don't you bring in help to improve our attacking? Or as a variation? How do you rate yourself as an attacking coach and strategist?. I suspect he thinks he's OK or that attack is down to individual players. But here the statistics do not lie? I've posted this quite a few times over this season Andy. I'm not sure if you are aware that there was a recent feature in the BN regarding an attacking coach and Parky's response was: It's not the money an attacking coach is not for us. He thinks that there's enough quality in the team to turn it around. He's full of his own self importance. The only thing that he's got going this season is: a good start (lucky?) and there's about six teams that are on the same number of points than us and maybe he believes that he'll pull off the great escape again. Although, other teams seem to be in the ascendancy, as opposed to our position.
I see highlights of other teams who seem to play better attacking football than us. Maybe he'd better get a supply of greydad's steroids and beef up the attacking players.
As I said before though, deluded.
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Post by OohMac on Nov 29, 2018 22:38:32 GMT
I don't see the argument for having an attacking coach. Would be like The Odd Couple. Parky wouldn't listen to him would be the waste of a salary.
Can't believe his comments. Think he forgets that fans can see the games now.
Asked Marc Iles to challenge Parky and not let him get away with his claptrap. He wrote an interesting piece about how the fans are feeling but then went ahead and wrote PPs reaction piece. Press record on the dictaphone. Type up. Thanks for the interview.
When's he going to realise an interviewer can pose questions too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2018 23:55:25 GMT
I don't see the argument for having an attacking coach. Would be like The Odd Couple. Parky wouldn't listen to him would be the waste of a salary. I read that twice. Yes, you did say it tongue in cheek, didn't you? |
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Post by OohMac on Nov 30, 2018 1:13:22 GMT
I meant it in the way that Parky has no interest in anything but Phil Parkinson.
An attacking coach and Phil Parkinson to me seems like setting up a date with a vegan and Colonel Sanders. Parky wouldn't listen, if an attacking coach said 'you make this run' then Parky would say what you going over there for?
Of course when it's bad you get nostalgic, but when you think of that Rioch/white hot era and see how many are still invested in the club. David Lee, Tony Kelly, Julian Darby, Jimmy Phillips on the books. Super John and Andy Walker at the match and Alan Stubbs recently commenting that he keeps an eye out. How many of this crop (mainly British/some local) will we thought of in 25 years?
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 30, 2018 20:13:10 GMT
(Sorry another PP but this with an alternate view) I think now Parky has support of about 5% of the fans and I'm wondering how much of those 95% would be won round if Parky just didn't talk rubbish non stop. In this, what I can only describe as episode I'm having, I've thought of an alternative universe where Parky speaks the truth and wondered whether you and the likes of W63 would like/respect him more. Q. Are you worried about lack of goals? A. Yes and No. My game is all about us scoring 1 a game. Away from home against the top teams I don't care too much. So as long as we score once in the games with teams are round us that will be what I ask for. We've not done that in some games so yeah disappointed. But 1 goal against Wigan and I'm happy. Q. Why don't you play more attacking? A. Wouldn't suit. Game would be open and we'd end up losing by 3 goals and taking hidings. Why would we want that. Keeping it tight and we have a chance. Q. Why not give young players a try? A. Same reason. It's a risk and it's my job. I know my system will limit the other team and we can sometimes sucker punch a team. Q. Are you worries about getting sacked? A. Not really, I've got the toughest job in the League and am paid the least money. So any new manager wouldn't take this at the money I'm on. Ideally I'll stay here it's the biggest club I can get but I'll get a job in league one tomorrow and the pay will be about the same. Q. Why did you sign so many older players? A. We were a few weeks to start of season. We skimmed our squad by 12 players and with weeks ago We didn't get the players we thought. We needed to get numbers in. We took what we coukd. Q. Why not play Doidge? A. I play with a Madine player up front. Out of the 3 strikers I have Magennis is most like Madine, Donaldson second and Doidge is the least like him. Q. Why sign him? A. Not sure. Wanted Wyke. Didn't get him. Last day of loan market it was a case of Doidge or nothing. I have two strikers so need cover. Never signed for first team. Q. Oz? A. Not physical enough. No point in playing a playmaker. Q. Can we survive? A. Not sure if, we don't I think we will be among the favourites for next year. I've got a decent record in the league and am between L1 and maybe not too good for championship. So I pitch this club on the same path as my own. Q. Where did we go wrong? A. Sold Madine and didn't get any of the strikers I wanted. To be honest OM, I think Parky does tell the truth and that is exactly why he will never make a top manager. I don't for one minute think he sees it any differently than he descibes it and whilst everybody else can see that it is wide of the mark, he just can't. I think having Parkin around him makes things even worse because they're both alike and obviously see the same things. I can't dislike Parky because I know he works hard and is 100% genuine but I think he perseveres with things because having little money and signing only loans and freebies just gives him all the excuses he needs and is why he always claims other teams have been able to spend more. In fact, without wishing to sound patronising I actually feel a little sorry for him because if he could only accept that what he does won't work at this level, he might just improve himself. I think there's also a streak of arrogance there which precludes him from even trying to do things differently. Oh well, whatever we say it isn't going to change him but given the Anderson situation again it doesn't seem like we'll be parting company with Parky any time soon, whatever happens against Wigan. In some ways it must be nice to have a job as safe as that but in other ways it must be quite disconcerting!! |
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Post by OohMac on Nov 30, 2018 22:43:33 GMT
I don't think anyone can play 900 minutes of football, score twice and think, nay convinced, that were doing the right things can be classed as sane.
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 1, 2018 9:07:27 GMT
I don't think anyone can play 900 minutes of football, score twice and think, nay convinced, that were doing the right things can be classed as sane. Proving Einstein right yet again?? |
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Post by Pedro on Dec 1, 2018 11:31:34 GMT
Our sixth deluded manager in a row since Sam left. How could we be so unlucky? 
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Dec 1, 2018 11:45:54 GMT
Hahahahahaha…….BRILLIANT !!!! and TRUE.!
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Post by OohMac on Dec 22, 2018 17:53:35 GMT
Q. Should you quit?
A. Yeah, but i'm owed money and if I leave i doubt ill ever get it. So im here until I get paid.
Q. Can you turn it around?
A. No, but i can keep the games looking close so it looks like were in the game.
Q. What do you think of the fans that stay away OR the ones you are staying, do you not feel duty bound to try and send them away happy?
A. Seriously? If young fans dont want to be bored bring a GameBoy. I couldnt give a toss about the fans. All i want is getting paid and when that runs out ill be onto the next club. Guess what? They wont like me either.
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Post by whitesince63 on Dec 22, 2018 19:29:28 GMT
Q. Should you quit?
A. No, because we're only one match away from a win and as you've seen before, we can the go on a run.
Q. Can you turn it around?
A. Of course, I've done it in the previous two years so why not?
Q. What do you think of the fans who stay away OR the ones who are staying? Do you not feel duty bound to send them away happy?
A. I want all the fans to be happy and though I realise recent results have been disappointing, I think all the fans can see how hard we are trying for them and are with us.
This is what I believe he genuinely feels. He's completely deluded but totally convinced he's right.
Very sad but unfortunately true.
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Post by OohMac on Jan 12, 2019 23:28:40 GMT
As a spin off to this. Im going to try and see things from Ken Andersons side. Heres my take on Honest Ken.
Q. You paid yourself £500k is that justified?
A. Well that league one season I worked endlessly. Fighting with FA and trying to bring in players to boost the side. I had to trim a huge wage bill too as well as dealing with the Dean Holdsworth issues. Did Dean ever put his hand in his pocket? Is he a villian? We brought in several players that season which got us promotion. I think what i did deserves a pay out.
Q. Is 500k too much?
A. Well lets compare. Darren Pratley would have taken £800K that year. Ben Amos would have taken close to that and wasnt even here. Did any of those players have conflicted emotions about taking the money from Bolton?
Q. What about Lee's £150k?
A. Lee is a football agent. That season we brought in a squad of players mainly from league above and some premiership signings too. Should he work for free? Do you want to know how much Gartside paid agents. If Lee wasnt my son would anyone ever mention this?
Q. Should you have been allowed to take over a club?
A. Not for me to say. When Joe Public buys a house he doesnt have the means to buy it outright. He borrows. If he borrows and then realises he cannot manage he has a few options. One is to prioritise the payments. Make sure mortgage and tax is paid and everyone else can wait. Which ive done.
2nd is to sell. Which was my plan since day one. Know anyone?
If Joe Public does confess that he cannot afford to pay does he get vilified? Is he a criminal? Conman? Or is he just a regular person that found things didnt turn out as planned.
Q. What about the Doidge deals?
A. It looks bad. But by taking Christian back it means we dont pay £1M for a striker with 1 goal to his name and who isnt a regular. Had he banged in 10 goals we would have found the money. Doesnt look great but saved me, and the club a million pound.
Q. He bought a house though?
A. Know what they say, bricks and mortar.
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