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Post by thegrud1 on Nov 2, 2018 21:09:32 GMT
Embarrasing !...we gonna need a miracle to stay up this year....if we gonna lose this might as well be by 5 or 6 if it means parky goes
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Nov 2, 2018 21:20:32 GMT
We all knew there would be 4 or 5 changes and we all knew what would happen. So no surprise there.!!! During the international break I think there should be a friendly arranged at the Reebok with free admission. Parkinsons losers v David Lees entertainers! I know who I would put my money on.
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 2, 2018 21:22:06 GMT
Can anybody please explain to me the substitutions Dyer and Magennis? Once again just basically like for like but no attempt to change the shape or dynamics of the game. If Anderson can't see the futility of keeping this man in a job then there's no hope for us at all this season. How many more will this knock off the gate against Swansea?
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Post by davidm on Nov 2, 2018 21:48:48 GMT
Just what was expected.
A defensive negative game plan that was destroyed inside 4 minutes.
Apart from a 10 minute spell in the 1st half and a bit of pressure in the 2nd, we were absolutely average.
The standard of our passing was abysmal. Villa passed to a Villa shirt – we just hoofed it to a Villa shirt.
Alnwick - 5 Not much chance with the goals but a few too many flaps/poor kicks.
Olkowski - 2 Nightmare. Out of position endlessly in 1st half. Dreadful marking for 2nd goal.
Wheater - 4 Turned inside out twice within the first 4 minutes. A real struggle.
Hobbs - 5 A terrible pass at the start of 2nd half saw Villa miss a sitter.
Taylor - 5 Never looked happy.
Got no help defensively.
Lowe - 5 I am not sure what he brings to the team – just an extra defender.
Williams - 5 Tries but is struggling.
Oztumer - 4 Loads of corners/free kicks to take but after that couldn’t get into the game.
Noone - 3 Lost out in every 50/50 challenge. Shockingly bad passing and centering.
Buckley - 2 Just left Taylor to defend the left side.
One decent centre in first half.
Donaldson - 5 Held the ball up well but was on his own.
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Post by one2many on Nov 2, 2018 21:52:20 GMT
Paid €6 to watch on i follow. Villa needed to do very little to score twice and we huffed and puffed to get some chances but I wasn't surprised when they didn't go in. The football and the entertainment wasn't terrible but I won't be in a hurry to pay to watch again! Would rate all our players at a 5 or 6. No outstanding performances and nothing terrible. Donaldson ran his socks off, Oztumer ran around like a headless chicken, Noone saw a lot of the ball and did little with it. Subs made zero difference.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 21:53:08 GMT
Same old same old team struggling bring on Bolton and they are sure to get a free Christmas present no matter what time of year it is. I am not going to say Parky out cause it's a waste of time 1 win in 12, 2 goals in 9, 11 goals in 16, let's just hope the results go our way tomorrow so that we don't drop further down the table. Parky will be happy cause Villa have spent a fortune and that's why we have lost again. COYWM
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Post by davidm on Nov 2, 2018 22:25:52 GMT
So that’s the weekend spoiled and its only Friday night.
Some may say what do we expect.
I expected to lose but I don’t expect the same surrender in every match. I don’t expect the absolutely appalling passing. I don’t expect the lack of players in the box when we have a rare attack.
The pundits on Sky, Talksport, Radio Manchester should try watching us every week and tell us when they last saw an entertaining performance by us.
It’s all very well Keith Andrews and Lee Hendrie going on about what a great job Parkinson has done but we are plummeting towards relegation and playing a dreadful style of football on the way.
Failed to score in 8 out our 16 games this season. Lost 5 out of our last 6 home games.
We had some bad luck tonight – the goal line clearance by Chester, the 2nd goal was offside but we also played some dreadful football – shooting was awful, falling down for free kicks endlessly, passing was dreadful.
Grump over – I’m off to bed
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Post by Woppy the Italian on Nov 2, 2018 22:41:41 GMT
It really IS time to blood the kids.!!! Apart from 1 or 2 of the senior players, the rest is just dead wood. If we don't change things relegation is nailed on. Ok, theres no guarantee things would be better, but lets be honest.....it would be hard for things not to. If we go down with the under 23s I would be more optimistic about a quick return than I would be with the current bunch of losers. BRING ON THE YOUNGSTERS !!!!!....OH, and sack Parkinson.
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Post by whitesince63 on Nov 2, 2018 23:25:33 GMT
It really IS time to blood the kids.!!! Apart from 1 or 2 of the senior players, the rest is just dead wood. If we don't change things relegation is nailed on. Ok, theres no guarantee things would be better, but lets be honest.....it would be hard for things not to. If we go down with the under 23s I would be more optimistic about a quick return than I would be with the current bunch of losers. BRING ON THE YOUNGSTERS !!!!!....OH, and sack Parkinson. I can understand that view Woppy but I'm not sure it would resolve the problem. I just can't believe though that the senior players are as bad as they are looking. Their confidence, including self confidence must be completely shot. Constant changes of players and systems every game can't possibly produce a team ethic. Leaving one lone striker up totally isolated with wingers on completely the wrong side with a static midfield can't ever generate enough to win games. I accept the passing and movement is poor but the players aren't used to playing regularly together to ever get any consistency and I doubt they ever practise pass and move in training. It's just so frustrating but I don't see any change under current management. The excuses will flow but it must be increasingly obvious where the blame lies. Let's hope Sky are right and there are now 3 parties looking to buy the club and if so they do it quickly and put us out of our misery and Parkinson out of a job? |
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Post by davidm on Nov 3, 2018 10:41:13 GMT
A few reflections after a nights sleep.
1. We were better than in recent matches. We actually attacked and could have scored but Villa were still miles ahead of us.
2. We were not as embarrassing as I feared but still got easily beaten.
3. The manager says “We are passing the ball as well as we have since I have been here in this run”. Well I didn’t see it. The number of times we just found a Villa man with an awful pass.
4. Defensively, we will always concede. We are too slow and cumbersome at the back to have any hope of a clean sheet.
5. With the substitutions, why did he keep to the not-working shape and make like for like subs?
Reflections on the season as a whole:-
Defence
- Too slow.
- We concede a remarkable number of soft goals. I know all goals are preventable to some extent but we are just not awake in defence. The defending after Abrahams turned Wheater was chronic. We play at least 2 defensive midfielders to help the back 4 but they cannot defend other than getting their bodies in the way. Look at Williams’ contribution to the Hull goal and the first goal last night. He is just not aware of what is going on around him. In both cases, he is 2 or 3 yards away from the man breaking into the box who eventually scores.
- Full back are also weak. Olkowski, the bright hope at the start of the season, was dire last night.
- I am also unsure about Alnwick. He is a decent shot stopper but sometimes is rooted to his line. Also did he need to dive at Grealish’s feet last night making it easy to go round him?
Midfield
- Non existent in my mind.
- Lowe and Williams play so deep they contribute nothing in an attacking sense. I thought Williams was a “box to box” player. He was against Preston but since then he is just another (not very good) defender.
- We have to persevere with Oztumer. The one player with a little class. I fear that the manager will have him back on the bench soon.
- We must get rid of the 2 wingers and 1 man up front philosophy. It doesn’t work. Noone and Buckley cannot pass the ball with any accuracy. It wouldn’t bother me if I never see them in a Bolton shirt again. Lloyd Dyer is not the answer either – I cannot for the life of me see the point in signing him.
- I hope that we are not building Ameobi up as the saviour. He is a one good game in five man and too injury prone.
- Likewise, how come Ireland is suddenly so important to us? He hasn’t even played a match yet.
- Midfield wise, our passing is just too poor. More of our forward passes are basic lumps forward.
Attack
- We cannot continue with just one up front. Whoever it is, they are just isolated.
- Donaldson is a better front man than Magennis as he can actually hold the ball up.
- Magennis really is a headless chicken – just a battering ram.
- Doidge needs games to build up his understanding – not 10 minutes at the end of a losing game. He currently is too easily knocked off the ball. At least when he came on last night, he got a couple of half chances – missed them mind.
- Surely, we must play 2 up front soon as the current shape is awful.
Future
- It is hard to see anything other than relegation.
- Please nobody else say that we have more points than this time last season – total irrelevance.
- Ken Anderson’s hope for higher attendances stands no chance when the quality of football is so bad. It is not just because it is losing football – it is the approach to the game from the manager – the anti-football that we play that will kill us.
- I am sick of so-called pundits telling us that Parkinson has done a wonderful job. Look back over our promotion season – how many really good performances did we see? We had the flourish of 3 successive 4 goal away games, Port Vale, Peterborough but the football was chronic then.
- Final comment – aimed at the pundits and Parkinson lovers – how many entertaining games have you seen the last 2 seasons? Answers on a postage stamp please.
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Post by bonaparte on Nov 3, 2018 10:57:54 GMT
Neat summary David, I totally agree.Bring on new owners, please.
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Post by Pedro on Nov 3, 2018 13:20:16 GMT
Spot on DavidM. Not disgraced last night BUT!
Chairman has just released a new "note":
"..............Therefore, I want to put to an end any suggestion about an immediate managerial change.
As a club we have overcome greater challenges on the pitch in the past and together we will do it again.
We all need to stand together and back Phil and the players................"
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Post by davidm on Nov 3, 2018 13:28:33 GMT
Oh well - all hope is rapidly disappearing.
What stage do we need to reach to get a change?
By the end of November, we will be in the bottom 3.
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Post by andyb72 on Nov 3, 2018 13:43:03 GMT
Unless the much speculated about takeover is closer than everyone thinks? Maybe Ken is close to actually getting a deal done and therefore sees no point in getting rid of Parky in the interim period?
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Post by davidm on Nov 3, 2018 13:44:46 GMT
Unless the much speculated about takeover is closer than everyone thinks? Maybe Ken is close to actually getting a deal done and therefore sees no point in getting rid of Parky in the interim period? Wishful thinking!! But we can all hope |
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